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More Spacecraft Velocity Anomalies

ZonkerWilliam recommends a bulletin from the American Institute of Physics, which discusses a study noting that recent spacecraft, such as NEAR, appear to display velocity anomalies much like those seen in Pioneer 10 (which were observed beginning ten years ago). The anomalies amount to up to 13 mm/sec., with a measurement accuracy of 0.1 mm/sec. Quoting: "A new look at the trajectories for various spacecraft as they fly past the Earth finds in each case a tiny amount of surplus velocity. For craft that pursue a path mostly symmetrical with respect to the equator, the effect is minimal. For craft that pursue a more unsymmetrical path, the effect is larger."

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  1. spooky by superdana · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anyone else feel like they just read the first console in an old Bungie game? We should probably be arming ourselves.

    1. Re:spooky by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, to be fair, there was no mention of "war was beginning", so we're probably safe.

  2. Recheck that gague by yotto · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's actually 13 inches per hogshead, which is what they expected.

    No problems here.

  3. I'm sure it's the hamsters.. by splutty · · Score: 2, Funny

    They're getting sick and tired of these slow things and finally got out and started pushing.

    Must be it.

    Or possibly dark matter... ;)

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    1. Re:I'm sure it's the hamsters.. by sm62704 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hamsters? What hamsters? It's the mice and the dolphins.

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    2. Re:I'm sure it's the hamsters.. by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're very clever, young man, very clever, but it's turtles all the way down!

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  4. Good excuse by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sorry officer; I was experiencing a velocity anomaly.

    1. Re:Good excuse by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm sorry officer; I was experiencing a velocity anomaly.

      That's too bad, son, I'm still writing you a ticket. From now on keep it under 299,792,458 meters per second. The law is the law!

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  5. well duh by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    gravitons display a bias for polar rather than equatorial output. this was the basis for the graviton engine that first bought man...

    oh shit, forgot what time line was in, you guys aren't supposed to discover this until 2039. dang it, screwed up again. i'll have to shut this time line down...

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  6. Message from your gods by rbarreira · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're sorry about the bugs you've been observing lately. The latest anomalies are due to bug #14310, a hardware glitch much like those present in your own Pentium processors.

    We're trying as hard as we can to mitigate this issue, primarily by avoiding the use of floating point calculations in our physics engine. In the meantime, we're manually changing your physics books so that you'll be able to calculate the ship's movement correctly. In one day, you'll have no memory that this incident ever happened, so do not worry.

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  7. Re:An appropos quote by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought it was "Here, hold my beer."

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  8. Re:Hmmm..... by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Could this anomaly possibly be explained by dark matter [blogspot.com]?

    Maybe, but I think it's more easily explained by dork matter.

    There is no dork side of the moon. As a matter of fact it's all dork.

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  9. Re:An appropos quote by ZaMoose · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, no, that's the way we get Darwin Award nominees.

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  10. I know what it is! by kiick · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once you leave Earth for a while, particularly if you travel far, you realize that it doesn't suck quite as much as you thought.

    A similar phenomenon occurs when traveling outside of the U.S.

  11. Re:Hmmm..... by kestasjk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lets postulate an entirely new field/form of matter/universe to explain this phenomenon!

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  12. Re:Awesome precision by pnewhook · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even if you had hyperaccurate cruise control, you'll still get some jackass yammering on a cellphone cutting you off or slamming into you.

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  13. Re:An appropos quote by jandrese · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's probably right. I only vaguely remembered the quote and did a Google search for it, but only turned up the version I posted.

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  14. That's quite enough, Titor by dreamchaser · · Score: 2, Funny

    John, yet ANOTHER Slashdot ID??? We told you to stop trolling here!

  15. Re:An appropos quote by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's an old redneck joke in there somewhere. Something like 50% of deaths by rednecks are immediately preceded by "Hey ya'll, watch this!".

    Having grown up around (and most people would probably say as) rednecks, there's some weird level of truth to that. Who else can say that they know a guy paralyzed from the neck down from trying to steal a riding lawn mower from Wal-mart by using an extension cord to tie it to the back of his buddies pickup, and then trying to drive/be towed on the lawnmower down the road at 60+ mph. Lets just say he lost control a few miles down the road . . .

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  16. Re:An appropos quote by orclevegam · · Score: 2, Funny

    i thought that was "that would be a cool thing to do..." No, it's "Hey, watch this!"
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  17. mm/sec ! wha...! by uss · · Score: 3, Funny
    We've seen this Metric-hogwash replay innumerable times, when dealing with stuff flying around in the heavens.

    If those europeans and europeans-wanna-be stopped using fancy units of measurements, and just plainly used the well-worn all-American "Inches/just-a-sec" for measurements, there would be no anomolies.

    The only mm/sec I know, is the # of m&ms I can pop into my mouth per second.

  18. Global gravity, my shiny metal ass! by frankie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come on already! How many fatal flaws have to be revealed before "scientists" will admit that the Theory of Gravity is invalid?

    Intelligent Pushing describes this behavior quite easily. It's obvious that GSM would apply more appendage force to non-equatorial motion. Things going in odd directions are simply more fun to play with. Duh!

    I'm surprised the electric universe otaku haven't jumped in to claim credit for this yet.

    1. Re:Global gravity, my shiny metal ass! by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 3, Funny

      Phooey. This clearly proves existence of the ether, a theory I've supported since I was a child in grade school, 108 years ago. Michelson-Morley my ass. And Xenu particles can travel faster than light, too. Modern physics is all invalid. I shall prove you all wrong with my free energy machine, controlled by Windows Vista, Crackpot Edition.

  19. Re:Link: Explanation with physics equations includ by matthewncohen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who cares if it starts with the assumption that the universe is only 6000 years old? It has real physics equations.

  20. Re:Link: Explanation with physics equations includ by ergon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here is the summary from the article:

    If a large volume of empty space surrounds the matter of the cosmos, so that the cosmos can have a centre of mass, then the matter is in a deep gravitational potential 'well'. If space is expanding and spreading the matter outward, then the depth of the well is decreasing. According to general relativity, especially a new solution of Einstein's equations derived in the Appendix (which also deals with Birkhoff's theorem), the decreasing depth continuously shortens 'radar' distances within the well, causing the observed apparent acceleration. The magnitude of the anomalous acceleration implies the bottom of the potential well has not yet risen very far above the critical depth for gravitational time dilation. Thus the Pioneer effect supports the essentials of several creationist cosmologies: a centre of mass, expansion of space and recent time dilation. Big bang theorists, whose cosmology does not have a centre of mass, cannot use this explanation.

  21. Re:Link: Explanation with physics equations includ by ergon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Would you prefer crayon drawings?

  22. Re:An appropos quote by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some would say he lost control long before he ever got on the lawnmower.

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  23. Re:precision, not accuracy by rangek · · Score: 2, Funny

    It might be more useful if you actually explained WHY they were different.

    This is true, but we are all so busy I figured interested parties would look for themselves.

    The short version is while the measurements may be very precise, they could be completely f'ing wrong.

  24. Re:I mean... by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 5, Funny

    Antisymmetric is when you hate Jews right?

  25. Heisenberg compensators by OglinTatas · · Score: 2, Funny

    What? They can measure the position AND momentum without changing the phase-shift impulse on their Heisenberg compensators? Don't tell Geordi

  26. no, sorry, can't by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    but would you like to join the war of 1812? get back to me in the next 5 minutes before this wormhole closes

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  27. ob. by The+Anarchist+Avenge · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's no moon...

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  28. Re:Hmmm..... by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, there is a 'period' at that point. Gravity doesn't work like that. Period. If there were gravity effects at work, we'd see them on the planets. Period. If there were inconsistencies and paradoxes in how gravity work, we'd have long since observed it. Period.

  29. Re:Awesome precision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    In space, no one can hear your road rage.