Wikileaks Gets Domain Back, Injunction Dissolved
I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "The judge in the Wikileaks case has dissolved the injunction against Wikileaks, which means that it can get its .org domain back. He defended his prior ruling because it was based on the pittance of information the bank and registrar had provided him, saying 'This is a case in which we had a (dispute) with named parties, and the parties were duly served. One of which properly responded and came to this court with a proposed settlement in this lawsuit... Nobody filed any timely responses to the court's order.'"
Judge White seems to have made appropriate decisions, as he only passed the original injunction because of the (purposefully unfair) timing of the court date leading to an under-represented WikiLeaks. He says that his subsequent review of the case revealed the obvious conflict with free speech rights, and has reversed the injunction so WikiLeaks can get its domain back.
The main point to take away is that they still have to go through litigation, as this just removes the injunction against WikiLeaks' primary US domain name.
-Will the Chill
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It wasn't clear to me that the wikileaks folks really were properly served. Well, they were probably doing their best to avoid being properly served.
Bruce Perens.
He defended his prior ruling because it was based on the pittance of information the bank and registrar had provided him
And acting on a pittance of information to such an extreme, when you have the full power to say, "Go fish, I need more information before I'll shut down an entire website", is excusable how?
Injunctions are supposed to be used only when the plaintiff has presented PROOF that irreparable damages will occur unless they get said injunction. It's not even enough to say that enormous damage will be done- it has to be irreparable.
Please help metamoderate.
The judge also ruled that Wikileaks is now "properly before him" because they sent a lawyer.
So effectively the bad people managed game Wikileaks into a jurisdiction that has nothing to do with them.
So damage has been done in a real and unjust way as a side effect of the bad ruling.
Just like in sports, it isn't fair for the ref, having screwed up in the first quarter, cannot "make it right" by ruling arbitrarily against the other team in the third quarter.
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
Well, the "trick" still worked. Wikileaks is now "properly before the court since they sent [council]". So now the case is before a judge who had _no_ jurisdiction because the judge wasn't honest enough to say "this shouldn't have come before me, get out".
So now the same easily hoodwinked judge is going to be the one to rule over something that isn't even in this country.
That is _not_ honest, nor is it justice.
The system was gamed. That it may not be an _utter_ disaster in the final ruling doesn't mitigate the fact that it shouldn't be happening at all.
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
Just to clarify, the "owner" of Wikileaks.org isn't in the USA, let alone California. His registrar is, which is why the bank attacked there with the intent of creating the injunction. The guy is in Australia.
How would you like to find that you registered a domain name, and suddenly you were part of a civil litigation on another continent?
That's why the ruling where the judge granted himself jursidiction after being duped into luring someone into providing a lawyer across an ocean is outrageous.
This is, in some odd way, like some bizzaro-world civil entrapment.
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
It was _not_ honest nor competent to give himself jusrisdiction over someone because he lured them into providing legal council because of his own previous mistake.
Were he honest, he would have voided his injunction and then ruled that he didn't have jurisdiction to hear any of that mess.
Why?
For the same reason that some random Shaia judge in some foreign country isn't allowed to rule on what you say or do.
The web site isn't in this country. The owner of record isn't in this country. The bank inst in this country.
(It's as if I were suing you in Mexico [presuming you are not Mexican, and knowing I am not] because your stationary printing was outsourced to a Mexican company, and some Mexican judge, having sent cops to your house to steal all your papers, ruled that since you sent someone to Mexico to ask for it back, you clearly intend to represent yourself there in his court.)
It's bull. There is no such thing as "entrapment" in civil court, but this is something very like that.
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
OK, so the logical next step here is to transfer to a registrar in Norway (or other independent jurisdiction), effectively bystepping Dynadot and making the US case moot, right?
http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/baer_v_wikileaks/wikileaks102.pdf From the founding of the federal courts, it has been unanimously held that "the courts of
the United States have no jurisdiction of cases between aliens." Montalet v. Murray, 8 U.S. (4
Cranch) 46 (1807). The Ninth Circuit has adhered to this rule. "Diversity jurisdiction does not
encompass foreign plaintiffs suing foreign defendants." Cheng v. Boeing Co., 708 F.2d 1406,
1412 (9th Cir. 1983). The presence of citizen defendants does not preserve jurisdiction as to the
alien. Faysound Limited v. United Coconut Chemical, Inc., 878 F.2d 290, 294 (9th Cir. 1989)
(citing Boeing, 708 F.2d at 1412). In order for the Court to exercise subject matter jurisdiction
over this matter, complete diversity must be established under the original Complaint. See
Owen Equipment & Erection Co. v. Kroger, 437 U.S. 365, 373 (1978).
The Court is concerned that it may well lack subject matter jurisdiction over this matter
in its entirety. 1
1) Although Plaintiffs pleaded jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. 1350 for a "civil action
by an alien for a tort committed in violation of a treaty of the United States," the Complaint
does not state a cause of action under any specific treaty, and counsel for Plaintiffs conceded
that the Court does not maintain jurisdiction under this alternative ground. (See Compl.,
2.) Additionally, while I don't remember much from Civil Procedure, I do recall that appearing in court to challenge personal jurisdiction doesn't grant the court personal jurisdiction.
I'm a lawyer, but not yours. I wouldn't represent someone who thinks taking legal advice from Slashdot is a good idea.