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The Law and Politics of Battlestar Galactica

privacyprof writes "Fans of the show Battlestar Galactica might be interested in our interview with writers and producers Ron Moore and David Eick. Three law professors at the blog Concurring Opinions have an hour-long interview with Moore and Eick about the legal, political, moral, and economic issues raised by the show. The interview is available in audio files; alternatively, people can read a transcript of the interview (Part I) and (Parts II and III). Part I examines the lawyers and trials in the show, how torture is depicted, as well as how the humans must balance civil liberties and security. Part II examines politics and commerce. It explores how the cylon attack affected the humans' political system, and it examines how commerce works in the fleet. Part III examines issues related to cylons, such as the humans' treatment of cylons, how robots should be treated by the law, how the cylons govern themselves politically."

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  1. The best science fiction by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The best science fiction is always used as a tool to explore the current issues of the day. Whether it's aliens subbing for commies in the 50's, or cylons standing in for terrorists in the 1st season of the new Battlestar Galactica, using science fiction always lets you take a step back from the subject and explore it indirectly in a way that you never could if you made a show that deal with it directly.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  2. Re:That's all very well.... by lancelotlink · · Score: 5, Funny

    I realize Dirk Benedict is a very handsome man, but I think it would have been a little inappropriate. Oh, wait...

  3. Re:it's interesting to see by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm constantly frustrated by these exact issues on battlestar galactica. When the workers rebel in a classic Marx revolution, the stupid president just brushes them off, and never really addresses their concerns.. somehow the problem just sort of goes away and the workers happily go back to working dangerous, repetitive jobs 16 hours a day, every day for years with no weekends. Mhm. Also I hate how they constantly abuse the cylons.. I mean yeah they're the enemy but they're obviously intelligent and sentient and they're not even given basic human rights. A Six is currently shackled to the floor in one of their small cells. The humans call the cylons obscene caricatures of real people and refer to them as "mechanical" and "machines"... they're entirely biological and indistinguishable from humans, at least some of them. There's some serious xenophobia going on here and it's hard not to sympathize with the cylons, especially the Six is custody who's constantly told that she's a worthless pile of bolts.. that must be causing some serious psychological damage, and I can't help but keep that abuse in mind when watching the "light" parts of the episodes.. as if I'm supposed to sympathize with the humans? They're more vicious than the cylons..

  4. what i found kinda interesting ... by erlehmann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... is that the only character that follows clear moral principles is karl "helo" agathon; every other character on the show has obvious flaws (which are necessary to create tension), but he is the only one that does what he deems right without doubt.

    i like the message transported through this: in the end, there are no heroes.

    1. Re:what i found kinda interesting ... by glwtta · · Score: 5, Interesting

      is that the only character that follows clear moral principles is karl "helo" agathon; every other character on the show has obvious flaws

      Isn't that the classic tragic flaw? Uncompromising goodness usually ends badly for the hero.

      (sidenote for non-classics geeks: his name is a nod to this too, agathos means "good" in Greek, often in the sense of "noble" or "virtuous")

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      sic transit gloria mundi
  5. Re:it's interesting to see by erlehmann · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your name isn't Gaius Baltar, is it?

    Emmm, no. Or ... yes, i mean yes. Of course my name is ... what were you saying again ?
    But, clearly, what I need is ... emm ... a nuclear ... warhead. I need a nuclear warhead, right.
  6. Interesting by Cedric+Tsui · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I stopped watching the series after it stopped being about running away from the hoard of robots trying to murder everyone. I'm not terribly interested in complicated relationships. That's what soap operas are for.

    Briefly in the early part of the series, things started running out. Simple commodities like whiskey and playing cards. I was upset when that issue disappeared. A random assortment of military and civilian vessels might be well stocked, but they certainly would not have a full assortment of manufacturing capabilities. Especially for specialized good like pharmaceuticals. They eventually addressed a shortage of antibiotics, and the development of a black market. But realistically. They would be able to produce no antibiotics at all.

    And really. Why would a passenger vessel capable of hopping between stars in the blink of an eye have manufacturing centers? Or fuel refineries? Or food production capabilities.
    I was hoping to see Cloud Nine, the dome greenhouse like ship be converted into agricultural land.

    I know these issues aren't nearly as exciting as -getting into bed with your imaginary genocidal robot-

    Think about it though. The main goals following some sort of catastrophe like this would be.
    1.Stability: Stop whatever killed everyone from still doing so. Stop the panic. Get people working together instead of looting from each other.
    2.Preserving technology, infrastructure and supplies. If you've got something that works, you can't replace it. Do whatever you can to keep it working.
    3.Rebuilding infrastructure. Need to grow food to live once the supplies run out. Can we built farming workers? No. Can we build tractors? No. Can we build shovels? Yes. Start from there, and learn what we need to make it work.

    4.(optional) Preserving knowledge. After everyone's farming, hunting, gathering, or whatever is needed to stay alive. We realize that we still know how to make all sorts of advanced technology, even if we don't have a large enough society to make use of it. It would be valuable to archive all the knowledge so that it is accessible after the last battery runs out of juice.

    just my thoughts...

  7. The majority practice hypocrisy by gobbo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    True story: back during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, I had lunch with a well educated, mild-mannered, drug and gun running mujehaddin working in India. When he found out I wasn't going to be a customer, he relaxed and we talked religion. He asserted that there were more Buddhists than any other religion. I scoffed and began quoting the other statistics in this thread, but he replied:

    "Few christians are actually christian, and few muslims are actually muslim... but most buddhists are actually buddhist."