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Nanaimo, The Google Capital of the World

eldavojohn writes "Time.com has up a story on Nanaimo, a British Columbia coal mining town of about 78,000 that has had everything conceivable mapped into a Google database. Citizens can track fire trucks real time. The results also include Google Earth data for Nanaimo. 'The Google fire service allows people to avoid accident sites by tuning electronic devices to automatic updates from the city's RSS news feed, says fire captain Dean Ford. Eventually, Nanaimo plans to equip its grass-cutting machines with GPS devices, so residents piqued by the apparent shabbiness of a particular park or grass verge can use Google to find out when last it was groomed by the city's gardening staff. And the city's cemeteries will soon be mapped to allow Internet users to find out who is buried in each plot, says Kristensen. A new multi-million-dollar conference center, opening in June, will have 72 wireless access points to allow out-of-towners to use their laptops to navigate the Google Earth version of the city.'"

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  1. And I suppose next by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 5, Funny

    they'll plant RFID tags in every citizen so you can track THEM on Google Earth...

    1. Re:And I suppose next by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 5, Funny
      they'll plant RFID tags in every citizen so you can track THEM on Google Earth...

      Let's start with the elected officials. How about using Eliot Spitzer as our first test case? I know. He isn't Canadian, but I bet the results would be interesting.

    2. Re:And I suppose next by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about using Eliot Spitzer as our first test case? I have a better idea.

      Let's get rid of laws that proscribe when, where and under what conditions consenting adults in a free society can have sex.

      I'm just sayin'.

    3. Re:And I suppose next by snowraver1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      TRUE STORY:

      I was on vacation in Toronto (I know, weak place for vacation) with the old man and my grandpa. We had rented a car and got a GPS reciever to navagate the Toronto area. Our first stop was my Uncle George's house, so I programmed the address into the GPS and we were on our way.

      As we were getting closer to our destination, I was showing the GPS to grandpa and explaining how it worked. We make the final turn and were rolling down the street, when gramps says "Can you see George on that thing"

      Naturally, I replied "Of course I can, he's taking a shit!"
      We got out of the car, knocked on the door, 2-3 mins later the door opens. Turns out I was right, he was on the can. The rest of the vacation though, my grandpa thought that GPS could track people.

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    4. Re:And I suppose next by pushing-robot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We already have. Single men and women can have sexual encounters with any other single consenting adults without fear of legal repercussion.

      The problem is that he was married, which means that he put himself into a contract stating that he would restrict his sexual activities. Now he's in violation of that contract, and in the process has put the other party at risk of developing incurable diseases.

      Don't blame the laws; he chose to marry his wife, and he chose to violate that contract even though are valid methods of terminating a marriage.

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    5. Re:And I suppose next by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's get rid of laws that proscribe when, where and under what conditions consenting adults in a free society can have sex.
      Damn straight! I've always wanted to have sex in the Prime Ministers office while he's in conference with the Pope. Thank you for trying to make my dreams come true!
    6. Re:And I suppose next by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 2, Informative

      When Spitzer prosecuted Grasso (the former NYSE head) for basically conspiring to increase his own salary to an astronomical sum, Spitzer didn't limit his prosecution to the issue about salary. He went after Grasso for sleeping with his own secretary. What does that have to do with Grasso's other alleged sin? Spitzer wasn't just interested in prosecuting corrupt businesses for fraud. He was interested in crushing those businessmen and women in every way possible.

      Spitzer also prosecuted prostitution rings.

    7. Re:And I suppose next by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hell no. Legalizing prostitution would remove my best excuse to say no when my girlfriend asks for money!

    8. Re:And I suppose next by fm6 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yes, it's hypocritical of Spitzer to enforce prostitution laws he was himself violating. The secretary thing is a whole different matter.

      I don't know what the story was there (can't seem to find this detail online) but I very much doubt that Grasso was prosecuted for "sleeping with his own secretary." Having sex isn't illegal in itself (at least not in New York!). Having sex with one of your own employees might open you up to sexual harassment or discrimination charges, but not without the question of the sexual partner. Was Grasso perhaps using his position to get his lover a better salary or perqs? That's a corrupt practice, and certainly deserves prosecution.

      Spitzer wasn't just interested in prosecuting corrupt businesses for fraud. He was interested in crushing those businessmen and women in every way possible. Show me a case where Spitzer went after someone for trivial or imaginary offenses and I'll agree with you. But going after a subject with every violation you can document is not vindictive — it's standard prosecutorial practice. No sane lawyer goes into court without every legal weapon he can dig up.

      Finding fault with Spitzer as a person (even if it headn't made it horribly easy!) doesn't change the fact that he was trying to right some really bad wrongs. We've had 8 years of big business basically getting away with almost anything, at least until their crimes are so blatant they can't be ignored. It's time for that to stop.

      Spitzer may have been an opportunist, but in a democracy, opportunism is what gets the job done.
  2. I knew that coal prices were rising... by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    but I didn't realize how much.

    How long before they start building man-made islands in cute shapes?

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    1. Re:I knew that coal prices were rising... by guruevi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Like this: http://realestate.theemiratesnetwork.com/developments/dubai/palm_islands/images/palm_jumeirah.jpg ?

      Not coal though, oil will buy you that. Coal is on it's way out (or at least that's what we hope for)

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    2. Re:I knew that coal prices were rising... by QRDeNameland · · Score: 4, Informative

      I live about an hour north of Nanaimo, and I just told a bunch of my co-workers about the characterization of Nanaimo as a "coal mining town", which caused a pretty good round of laughter. Vancouver Island coal mining has been nearly dead for about a half a century.

      The economy here is doing fairly well, considering that coastal BC seems to be one of the few places in North America where real estate is not plummetting, but I don't think they'll be making any man-made islands soon, especially since we have no shortage of natural ones.

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  3. City corruption by darjen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just have to wonder how much resistance city officials will put into something like this. Would any of the corrupt city councils here in the states ever allow Google to do that? If they catch cities that are bad about updating their infrastructure, there could be a backlash against the local government. It could be a whole new way of holding them accountable...

  4. GPS on lawnmowers? by stoofa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So where as you used to just cheekily shout "You've missed a bit!" - now you get to email them with co-ordinates and a satellite photo as proof... and then blog it all.

  5. This is cool by blhack · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is one of my favorite things I've seen google do so far.
    It really is neat to see how google has gone from a company that indexes web pages, to a company that stores and indexes your email, to a company that stores and indexes maps of the world, to a company that will literally tell you ANY available information about an area on the map.
    As much as the privacy advocates are going to hate this (and please, somebody tell me WHY without using a slippery slope argument), this is really where I would like to see mapping go. Maps hadn't really improved in the past couple of hundred years, but now we're starting to see just what mapping can do.

    Should be an exciting next few years.

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    1. Re:This is cool by garett_spencley · · Score: 4, Funny

      "As much as the privacy advocates are going to hate this (and please, somebody tell me WHY without using a slippery slope argument),"

      Agreed. That slippery slope argument really pisses me off. A few months back I was hiking in the woods and, thanks to my GPS device, I was alerted moments before stepping onto a slippery slope and sliding to my doom.

      The more people we can save from slippery slopes the better. Surely any privacy advocates who say that such technology is a slippery slope simply have never had a near-death-from-slippery-slope experience themselves. They really need to STFU.

    2. Re:This is cool by stoofa · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah yes, but have you tried out some of them slippery slopes recently? Some of them are really, really slippery.

      Perhaps we need to be told WHY this is so cool without being told it's new and shiny.

      Scientist: We can now graft a human ear onto a mouse.
      Concerned public: Pardon?
      Scientist: Well, at least the mouse heard me.

  6. So much easier to visit your dead relatives by ozamosi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Adding all graves will make it so much easier to visit the graves of your relatives. It's already possible to visit the cemetery through Google Earth/Maps, but it can be hard to locate your passed loved ones.

    However, I feel there's a need for an additional service to be developed: put flowers and candles on the grave. As soon as that's implemented, you'll never have to go to the cemetery again!

  7. Re:This makes me happy by cromar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am a bit of a privacy nut, but I am all for more transparency in government. This story is somewhat interesting; it's neat this sort of thing is getting off the ground (finally). At some point, though, too much transparency isn't really worthwhile (like knowing when the ruddy green was mown last).

  8. Coal Mining??? by rueger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Surely with all of that intense technology eldavojohn or Time could have figured out that coal mining stopped back in 1938 in Nanaimo. Since then it is primarily known for being one of the finest examples of really bad urban planning, for at one time having more square feet of shopping mall per capita than any place else on earth, and of course for theNanaimo International Bathtub Race.

    To quote Ember Swift: "This is the city that Engineers enter to demonstrate just how not to build a city centre This is the city used as a symbol of haste. "

  9. Re:You Take The Good, You Take the Bad by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, most of the cool features are built on the KML file format and RSS. If MS would support it, it would work on Virtual Earth. You could create a tool to do it. They are not loading up google with data, they are publishing the data in a very easy to read XML format, and suggest you use google earth to view it, since it is currently the best tool out there.

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  10. Re:This makes me happy by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've always wanted to be able to see where the city buses are in real time. In Ottawa, they all (well, most anyway) have GPS units on board, so it probably wouldn't take much to have them transmit their location every 5 minutes. It really sucks when you end up waiting in the cold for 20 minutes because the bus is late. If I could see ahead of that it was going to be late, I would just stay inside until I knew the bus was close.

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  11. What about the bars? by Jupiter+Jones · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'll tell you what Nanaimo is the real capital of: Yummyness

    JJ

    1. Re:What about the bars? by rumblin'rabbit · · Score: 2, Funny

      Goddamn things out to be outlawed as food porn.

  12. Re:This makes me happy by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, and screw the people who can't afford a vehicle with a nav system; who cares if they get hopelessly lost?

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  13. Re:This makes me happy by GlitchCog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think any privacy activists will mind greater transparency in government. Privacy for the government isn't a privacy that should be promoted or protected in any free society.

    You have two groups:
    1) The government - has the monopoly on the legitimate use of force
    2) The people - controlled by that government, but, hopefully, with enough of a democracy to keep the government from beating the liberty out of them with the police, military, judicial system, etc.

    One of the most important tools in keeping that democracy working is knowing what the government is doing. Getting this level of information about the government and using the internet to dole it out to this degree is fantastic for the people.

  14. Re:This makes me happy by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, that sounds awesome.

    As someone who takes the bus to and from work every day, I'd love this.

    You know what's the only thing worse than the bus being late? The bus being early. Nothing like standing out in the cold for 20 minutes past the time the bus is supposed to arrive only to realize it must have passed your stop 15 minutes early.

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  15. Re:why they chose nanaimo by Kitsune · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it's a futuristic japanese city, it'd be a gag on the rest of us. Nanaimo is a homonym for "seven potatos" in japanese. "Google maps seven potatos" FTW ;)

  16. This just in... by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny

    The town of Nanaimo has completely vanished, leaving behind only a flat and barren landscape where there was once a thriving, interconnected community. One relative of a Nanaimo resident reported receiving a phone call from the town shortly before it vanished.

    "I got a call from my brother Earl in Nanaimo," said Harry Wacker of Fresno, California. "He was babbling on about how they may have gone too far in connecting the town up to the intertoobs, and some sort of hogs pizzle about a 'singularity' or something. Utter nonsense, but that's Earl- loonier than a sack of weasels. You'd have to be to move to gol-damned Canada. Broke his mother's heart, he did."

    Other relatives and friends have reported hearing the voices of former Nanaimo residents coming from their game consoles, computers and other Internet connected devices, but these reports are unconfirmed.

  17. Real time rail map for Switzerland by seyyah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even better than this is http://www.swisstrains.ch/, where you can watch Swiss trains moving in real time.

  18. Re:This makes me happy by partenon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Because I'm competent at my work. What I do outside the company isn't an indicator of my competence or lack of professionalism"

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  19. Re:why they chose nanaimo by dubbreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    he city already sounds like a futuristic sci fi japanese anime city
    The name is aboriginal (the politically correct term in Canada being "first nations".. ). The name Nanaimo comes from the Coast Salish name meaning "Great Mighty People", the whole", "great strong tribe" etc.

    Funny thing is no one has mentioned the dessert of the same name: Nanaimo bar.

    Whether the dessert actually originated there is debatable, whether it is delicious is not ;).
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  20. I love this idea of complete transparency by jgerry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What's not to love about this? As governments want more and more information about us, we should demand more information about them. This is our tax dollars at work. We should know where our money goes and how it's being used. If governments were to provide all this information, we'd have an army of fact finders going through every detail of every budget, every purchase, every opportunity to defraud the public or waste time, money, or manpower. The people would become the watchdogs over government instead of journalists. This is probably a good thing, as it's pretty clear that the journalists haven't been doing their job properly for some time.

  21. Re: And I suppose next (cometh the Matrix) by pnewhook · · Score: 3, Informative

    Obscure? Have you never heard of Nanaimo Bars? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanaimo_bar

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  22. Re:Oh sure by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can't possibly be *that* stupid that there's other laws to take care of that, or have not understood what I meant, can you? (rolls eyes)

  23. BC Ferries realtime by gobbo · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you live on Vancouver Island or nearby, and rely on BC Ferries like many of us do, they post real-time GPS images of ferry location and direction. They're highly addictive, since either the ferries are late, or I am. I'm a mac user mostly, so I have a web clip of my spouse's daily commute ferry one touch away.

    I think all major transport systems would benefit from this.

  24. No need for RFID by apankrat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Relocating Spitzer to Nanaimo is going to be a punishment enough.

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  25. Re: And I suppose next (cometh the Matrix) by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm surprised when people don't know about Nanaimo Bars, they're delicious!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanaimo_bar