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Blu-ray Player Prices Hit 2008 Highs

An anonymous reader writes "HD DVD is almost gone and Blu-ray prices are already on their way up. TG Daily went through average retail prices of some of the popular Blu-ray players and found that you should expect to pay at least $400 for an entry-level Blu-ray player, while you could get a player for less than $330 in February. It really should not be a surprise for all of us, but it is interesting to see how quickly retail adjusted to the new situation and increased prices."

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  1. Look how quickly I adjust too by glop · · Score: 5, Funny

    by not buying the now overpriced gear...

    1. Re:Look how quickly I adjust too by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Informative

      The joke being that almost all the Blu-ray players on the market right now are obsolete. BD Live has been part of the spec since November, but pretty much nothing supports it, and most Blu-ray players can't even be upgraded to support it. The PS3 is about the only safe bet right now.

      Oh, and the other joke is that BD Live just brings Blu-ray up to (nearly) the same level as HD DVD. Yes, at the time WHV threw its weight behind Blu-ray, Blu-ray was both more expensive than HD DVD, and less powerful (capacity excepting.)

      Great decision Hollywood. You went for the format that's out of most people's price range, that's unlikely to be in people's price range for a while, and which had less features (and thus less clear advantages over DVD) than HD DVD. In practice, I suspect you've doomed HD media to a niche, while the vast majority stick with DVD for movies they want to own, and PPV and the various download services for content they want to see in HD.

      I still find the decision incomprehensible.

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    2. Re:Look how quickly I adjust too by Thaelon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So, not only do you get screwed into double dipping on the hardware, they also screw you into double dipping on the software.
      Double dipping?

      Last I checked some movie studios were approximately decadipping at this point:
      1. The original movie on VHS
      2. The original movie on Laserdisc
      3. The director's cut on VHS
      4. The original movie on DVD
      5. The director's cut on DVD
      6. The digitally remastered version DVD
      7. The super magic ultra awesome edition DVD (Aliens quadrilogy, I'm looking at you)
      8. The blu-ray version
      9. The director's super, mega, ultra freaking awesome blu-ray edition
      10. The director's super, mega, ultra freaking awesome blu-ray edition with 2.0 features
      And let's not forget some awesome features of DVDs and probably blu-ray as well. How about "user-prohibited actions"?

      Yay, I'm forced to watch previews on a movie I paid for. Or I can't skip the FBI warning. Or I can't skip the stupid menu animations.

      The alternative is to download a DVD rip DRM unencumbered, no FBI warning, no forced previews - hell, no previews. No user prohibited actions. I could store it easily on any media I choose - such as carry it to a friend's house on a thumb drive. I could fast forward and rewind more easily than a DVD. I could store it on a big fat network drive with thousands of others. I could stream it anywhere I have the bandwidth to watch it. It's easily transferred from media to media - as fast as you can copy files.

      Tell me again why I should buy DVD or blu-ray discs? They couldn't compete even if they were free.
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  2. PS3 by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Meanwhile, there are rumors that once the PS3's start rolling out with 45nm CPUs and GPUs that they will drop $100 in price.

    $400 for an entry-level player, or $400 for the PS3?

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    1. Re:PS3 by _KiTA_ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey now, this is slashdot. You can't honestly expect the same technical knowledge and math skills that you see in abundance on such sites as digg!

      Bah, Digg's not THAT good at math. I asked a few of them to add up the following random hex numbers and half the site freaked out:
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.

  3. So much for rapid adoption by foxalopex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would have thought the Blu-Ray group would have liked faster adoption after the demise of HD-DVD but it seems by keeping prices high they might end up slowing themselves down. What would be even more ironic is if the Blu-Ray group collapses themselves in a few years due to lack of demand. That would be a good laugh.

  4. Price go up, price go down by Mogster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Potential competition from HD-DVD helped keep prices low to attract consumers. HD-DVD has lost so there is less incentive to keep the prices low. Once there are more manufacturers producing Blu-ray players then prices will start to drop again.
    Market forces at work

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  5. Still competing with DVD by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If people continue to purchase DVD players (which are easily under $100), the Blu-ray player prices may drop after a few months. For many people, the quality of DVDs are just fine and they don't have the massive television displays to support them anyway. The cynic in me thinks we're seeing a price hike so stores get the cash from all the early adopters who bought HD-DVD and now feel obligated to buy a Blu-ray player.

    1. Re:Still competing with DVD by debest · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I am getting kinda tired from this meme (referring to DVD being "good enough")

      Hey, I agree that HD is tangibly better than standard DVD. But for me (and a whole bunch of other people), it is not nearly enough better to justify switching media formats (and, necessarily, upgrading hardware that is already paid for and working perfectly well).

      And while I have no gripe with Blu-ray peacefully coexisting with DVD, what I fear is that Blu-ray gets enough penetration that the industry can start ignoring the DVD format (VHS started dying off seriously when tapes stopped being distributed for new movies). When a studio is able to justify releasing a "Blu-ray exclusive" title, DVD will be toast quickly. Then I'll be stuck with an unsupported format that will continue to be "good enough" (for me, anyway) for years and years to come. I really, really don't want to deal with new un-rippable, premium-priced discs that will force me to buy a new player at minimum (and a new TV to see any benefit at all).

      Sure, this won't happen for awhile yet (heck, DVD may yet outlast Blu-ray in the market), but the swift end to the HD format war means that Blu-ray has much more of a chance of supplanting DVD.

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  6. hmm by greywire · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this probably wont happen, but:

    What if by declaring hd-dvd dead it causes hd-dvd to become more popular than blu-ray?

    By this I mean, the prices of drives are dropping because they are getting rid of them. The movies, too. At the same time, blu-ray is going up.

    Will a lot of people even know that hd-dvd is dead? They will just see how cheap it is.

    If this were timed right, hd-dvd could hit a critical mass very quickly. Yes they'd lose a bunch of money on the current supplies, but that's going to happen anyway. If at the right time they could resurect it and keep the prices way below blu-ray they could make a comeback. In the mean time they don't really have to waste money on advertising etc.

    Myself, I would buy an hd-dvd burner and media right now if the prices were really low, just for storage purposes. They should continue to sell them for pcs for storage purposes.

    Just a crazy idea. And what a coup it would be...

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  7. Re:Great- no more format war! by DrXym · · Score: 5, Informative
    This monopoly is so much better for the consumer.

    Monopoly? Last I heard, virtually every major CE manufacturer with the exception of Toshiba was competing for the blu ray money in your pocket. Even Toshiba has a 50% stake in a company producing blu ray drives so I'm sure they come out of their period of mourning soon enough.

    Prices will drop through competition and economies of scale.

  8. Prices in Euros by Goonie · · Score: 5, Insightful
    How much of this is due to the fact the US dollar has dropped a lot in value recently?

    Not that this is a bad thing - it will help to correct the imbalances in the US economy far more than bleating about NAFTA or whatever other nonsense is coming out of your politicians at the moment...

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  9. Re:Great- no more format war! by vivek7006 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, because we all know this evil DVD monopoly drove DVD player

    This time its different because the blu-ray consortium is not giving licenses to tom-dick-harry shop in china to make cheap players. So unlike the DVD, this time around we wont be seeing cheap DVD players. I still remember that it was some Chinese brand (apex?) which broke the $100 barrier for DVD-players and became the largest selling dvd player right behind Sony. With tighter licensing restrictions, thats not going to happen this time around with Blu-ray payers

  10. Re:Great- no more format war! by robertjw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This time its different because the blu-ray consortium is not giving licenses to tom-dick-harry shop in china to make cheap players. So unlike the DVD, this time around we wont be seeing cheap DVD players. I still remember that it was some Chinese brand (apex?) which broke the $100 barrier for DVD-players and became the largest selling dvd player right behind Sony. With tighter licensing restrictions, thats not going to happen this time around with Blu-ray payers

    If your statement is true, and I'm going to assume it is, this means we also won't see a huge blu-ray adoption. The VHS to DVD format adoption is easily the fastest I've ever seen. Faster than LPs to tape, faster than tape to CD. in fact, I remember buying my first CD player in about 1989. CDs had been mainstream since what, 82, but seven years later a good player was still $300? It took a long time for the CD to completely take over the market, mostly because the players were expensive.

    If the studios are smart, and I think they are, the prices of blu-ray players will only be high for the next 6 months or so. After that, the studios will subsidize their production. The only way people are going to buy ANOTHER new copy of that old movie they love is if the player is cheap. The best way for the studios to make money is to get those players in the hands of the end users.
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  12. Re:"anti-PS3 crowd" by Frantix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not sure what you're implying by the "anti-PS3 crowd"? That only die-hard PS3 fans are technically savvy enough to want an HD player? Or is it just a troll remark? The market is made up of a lot of different people on ALL sides of the console front; some for gaming, some for the overall capabilities of a console and, with the war being over, a BD player first and a game console second.

    Most of my time is still playing PC games but I also have an Xbox and have no interest in a PS3 even for the BluRay. I have a lot of interest in BluRay but not through a PS3 or the "new" pricing scheme that they've seemed to now drop on consumers for stand-alone players. I'll bid my time and hopefully Microsoft releases a BD player at some point in the upcoming months as has been the rumor.