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The National Cryptologic Museum

An anonymous reader writes "The NSA's once small National Cryptologic Museum is bigger and better, with new more immersive exhibits like a reconstruction of a listening post from the Vietnam war. The place seems to be caught between the urge to keep your mouth shut and the pleasure of telling war stories. In time, though, the story notes that the need to tell stories wins out. Has anyone visited lately?"

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  1. I tried to visit once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But they required a password to get in and I didn't have time to crack it.

    1. Re:I tried to visit once by halcyon1234 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "friend"

    2. Re:I tried to visit once by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's more truth to that then you'd imagine. It used to be that the NSA wasn't connected to any major roads... you'd have to take the BW parkway and then, at a random unmarked point in the road, turn off the pavement and onto a dirt path through the forest.

    3. Re:I tried to visit once by sporkme · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not doubting, but [citation needed]. Seems to me that a heavily traveled dirt road would attract both public attention and maintenance impossibilities. A surface search on Google is not coughing up the goods, so got any write-ups on this? I'm not a conspiracy wonk, but I really dig the real deal.

    4. Re:I tried to visit once by FredThompson · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I highly doubt this story. I've worked there. The buildings are massive and it's hidden...on the ground of Fort Meade close enough to hit with a golf ball from the Parkway. The exit signs and "yard sign" that say "National Security Agency" weren't always there but a dirt road onto which people exited from the parkway!?!?! No. That's crazy. Unmarked entrances to various remote listening posts, that's possible, but even then, you'd run into security. Even when Bamford wrote The Puzzle Palace, it wasn't that much of a secret. I have no idea how many people work in the main 2 buildings but you can't be in Columbia for too long without running into people who are obviously math geeks. Add in their families and support contractors (somebody has to order paper, pencils, empty the trash, etc.) and it's impossible to hide.

      Methinks anyone who would believe the hidden dirt road idea doesn't know what the average NSA employee is like. The CIA has a joke: "An optimist at the NSA is someone who looks at YOUR shoes when they walk by." I've literally had NSA employees jump in surprise when I said hello to them. Most of the time, if you look them in the eye they look away. It's a weird place. A lot of the people made we wonder how Garanamils missed such a huge marketing opportunity.

      I'm going to visit the museum in a week, actually. Never went there when I had the clearances but it should be fun. I live in Charlotte now, home of one of the Projector twins. IIRC, there was a post about part of it being solved a couple of years ago. Wasn't there a mistake in it? Something like that.

    5. Re:I tried to visit once by moondawg14 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Really, a random spot on the road? So at any given time (assuming proper algorithm seeding, of course!) you would have no idea where that dirt road may empty onto the parkway? Now THAT, my friends, is an accomplishment.

    6. Re:I tried to visit once by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Before government got really, really big. Too big to hide a major agency.

      There used to be a kind of convention in Washington where if you said you worked for "The State Department" it was understood you meant the CIA. Normally people who worked for State would say something like "I work in the office of the Undersecretary of State for Economic, Business, and Agricultural Affairs," which would be totally comprehensible to anybody on the DC cocktail circuit. People who worked for the NSA said they worked for "The Department of Defense". Very few people would have known about the agency in the first decades of its existence, in fact in the early days its existence was a secret. But people know that the DoD had employees who didn't talk about what where they worked.

      The NSA has roots that go back as far as 1949, during the height of the Red Scare. This story -- while it may well be apocryphal -- is no more odd than many things the government of the era did in the cloak-and-dagger game. And you can't start an agency like the NSA overnight. It's not like you can put an announcement in the Federal Register and have a couple of thousand employees a few months later.

      Still, the best place to hide something is, as Poe observed in The Purloined Letter, in plain sight. It would make much more sense to give the early agency a small building on the site of an extremely large and busy military installation. But it doesn't mean that the people who did the initial organization necessarily had the sense to see that.

      In any case, the NSA HQ building at Fort Meade is really cool; if you were wandering around looking for the NSA headquarters you'd have no trouble figuring out which one it is: it's the one that looks like a huge, shiny black box.

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    7. Re:I tried to visit once by Darinbob · · Score: 2, Informative

      "friend" "mellon"
  2. It's a cool place. by mongoose(!no) · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was there about a year ago, it's just outside of DC, near my university. Lots of neat stuff, the older stuff is better labeled, but the newer stuff (1980's) is neat to look at, but the NSA doesn't really want to tell you what it does or what it's used for, it's just kind of sitting there because someone doesn't want to throw it out. They've got a giant 2 story data tape library that's set up to randomly swap tapes around, it's pretty cool to look at. I might have to take another trip up there some time. Also, don't forget to get the kid's NSA coloring book they hand out.

  3. Made a visit last summer... by ktulus+cry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My brother was down at Fort Meade working for *cough cough cough* last summer, so when we went down to visit we got a tour of the museum. Really cool stuff down there, it's worth a few hours of your day if you're in the area.

    With the stuff they tell you there now, about the 60s and 70s, it's almost unfathomable what they DON'T tell us about what's going on now.

  4. Been there by FooGoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was there a few years ago and it was worth the trip just to see all the gizmos and read the guestbook. A word of advice...never take a girl there for a date.

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    1. Re:Been there by langelgjm · · Score: 4, Funny

      You laugh, but I actually did take a girl on a date there. She was a physics major, FWIW... and it wasn't totally disastrous. Though I do think I enjoyed the visit more than she did. I liked the big bomba machine in particular.

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  5. Opening moment by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Welcome to L4XD739LNZ8367. Please decrypt the gender signs properly before selecting a restroom."

  6. Worth the trip by ayden · · Score: 5, Informative

    I went to the NSA Cryptologic Museum back in 2002 while I was reading Cryptonomicon. Not only did they have Enigma machines, one exhibit had an Enigma out in the open that anyone could experiment with. The exhibits I was most impressed with were the Japanese encryption machines, Jade and Purple. These machines are quite rare and even the machines in these exhibits were incomplete.

    SIGSALY was also interesting - I didn't know that voice encryption was possible during WWII.

    I also found it amusing that they had a Connection Machines CM5. Sure, the CM 5's blinkin' lights are cool! But it was personally funny to me because my future brother-in-law used to work for Connection Machines and had a hand in their design and consturction. After I got home, I said to him, "Hey Sam, I saw some of your handy work in the NSA's museum".

    The volunteers working at the museum were all retired NSA or military intelligence. These guys actually worked with some of the equipment on display and could expertly explain technical details.

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    1. Re:Worth the trip by langelgjm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed, when I visited, we had a nice older gentleman explain in detail to us regarding the Engima machine on display. I also remember reading displays about a famed NSA member who knew something like 40 languages, and could go home and over the weekend learn enough of the basics of another language to decrypt messages in it.

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    2. Re:Worth the trip by Mox-Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's actually pretty simple to "learn" a language if you understand the basic grammar patterns of a language.

      No, it's not. It's fairly easy to learn a small set of grammatical rules that are similar to your native language, or a set of incredibly simple grammatical rules.

      Give anybody a massaged data set from a concatenative language and they'll figure out the morphology pretty quick - but be absolutely unable to manipulate it in any meaningful or naturalistic way until they have hundreds of hours of experience with actual instances of language use. Additionally, the basic grammar patterns of a language are rarely (read:never) very regular, let alone perfectly regular. Small irregularities can make for big differences. There's simply too much in languages that's in the lexicon for anyone to be able to "learn" a language in two hours.

      Unless you're Kenneth Hale. Which none of us are.
  7. Google Earth location by B5_geek · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is located here:
      39 7'2.78"N x 7646'7.85"W

    Or as a link: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.118071,-76.76737&z=16&t=h&hl=en

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    1. Re:Google Earth location by SoapBox17 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, no, it's located here: 39.114878, -76.77414

  8. Crypto museums by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's a neat little museum. Everything there is familiar to people in the field, but it's nice to see the actual hardware.

    I would have liked to see hardware from the NSA/IBM foray into cryogenic computing. NSA funded a long effort from 1960 or so to build a 1GHz computer, decades before anybody else. ("I want a thousand megacycle machine! I'll get you the money" - NSA director) IBM developed components that ran in liquid nitrogen. Apparently some special purpose hardware was built using this technology, but not a full-scale computer. The components were too big (each gate required a tiny coil) and ICs won out.

    SIGSALY is a reminder of just how hard it was to do anything with WWII electronics. SIGSALY is straightforward; it's a speech encoder and digitizer fed through a one-time key system. The keys were stored on phonograph records, made in pairs and shipped in advance. This was VoIP, version 0.000001. The system thing took 40 racks at each end, and a staff of fifteen at each site to keep it running. The record turntables had to be mechanically synched; there was at that time no memory device suitable for storing even a modest portion of the of key so that the thing could be synchronized electronically. There was no clock sent on the data channel; synchronization was entirely manual. Unclear why they did it that way. The display at NSA is a mockup.

    Bletchley Park in the UK is also worth a visit. Go on a weekend when the volunteers show up; the weekday guides don't know much about the technology.

  9. I was there two weeks ago by F00F · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had heard that the museum was "small but pretty interesting". That ended up definitely being an under-sell.

    The Computer History Museum in Mountain View is cool and all, but the Cryptologic Museum struck me on an entirely different level. Instead of the "Here is how computing evolved" theme of the Mountain View museum, I really felt like this was the "Here is why computation is relevant to communications (and warfare)" counterpart. They display voice and data encryption tools of the last five decades, from STE's and STU-III's back to (as other posters mentioned) the mechanically-synchronized SIGSALY machine that used giant turning vinyl records to encrypt the traffic. There is a handset you can pick up to hear pre-recorded messages representing the voice quality of each system. The oldest were barely intelligible, the newest are (obviously) crystal clear.

    The Cray XMP and YMP are impressive, and are in almost flawless condition! Rather than the exhibit at Mountain View, it felt like these machines were just recently taken out of service, and could easily be made operational again. They didn't seem like they'd been cobbled back together or had sat in closets neglected and falling apart for years. The density of some of the components on the Thinking Machines CM-5 memory and processor slices is impressive, and the descriptions of the power and cooling apparatus required (think many kilowatts and lots of Fluorinert) were equally amazing -- truly a testament to what can be done when money isn't much of an object, and a machine's value is measured solely in MIPS or MFLOPS.

    There is a three-foot-tall full-relief wooden replica of the Great Seal of the U.S. on the wall, which apparently was a gift from Russian schoolchildren to the U.S. embassador in Moscow. After hanging prominently on the wall for years in the embassador's office in Moscow, in 1952 it was discovered that it contained a resonant cavity eavesdropping bug on the inside that was very difficult to detect with sensing equipment of the time, unless it was activated by radio signal (presumably by Soviet spies) from the outside. I met there three (very proud) tourists of Russian descent who chuckled heartily at that one (and who tried to teach me how to say "Medvedev" properly, thanks!)

    As everyone else mentioned, the working Enigma machine was fun to encipher a message to a friend with (they have a pad and pencil for you to use), and the displays on the history of the agency and of the Korean and Vietnam conflicts were well put together. The GRAB II and Poppy ELINT satellites were especially interesting to me, and reminded me of the kind of things a senior class at the USAF Academy might build for a project these days (relics of an era when launch considerations and electronics density actually drove simplicity into designs).

    If you're an electronics/history/information assurance/security/aerospace/DC trivia fan, you'll almost certainly enjoy the trip, even if the facility is kind of small and out of the way. While you're in the area, go see the Udvar-Hazy center, too! And don't forget to tip your docents...

  10. NSA's current cyrogenic computing effort - 100GHz by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I did some Google searches, hoping to find some historical info on NSA's cryogenic computing efforts, and found this, a 2005 plan out of NSA to build a 50-100GHz computer by 2010.

    They want faster CPUs, not more CPUs. The commercial world isn't even trying any more. After reading this paper, one can see why. By throwing a few hundred million, and liquid helium, at the problem, they might get a 20x performance gain over commercial microprocessors. The CPU has to run at 4 degrees Kelvin, liquid helium temperature. And it has to be kept at 4K while dissipating about a kilowatt.

    The technology is totally nonstandard. The basic components are Rapid Single Flux Quantum devices running at 4K. The logic voltage power voltage is 3-5 mV. Signals are around 200 microvolts. This stuff requires custom semiconductor fabs to make.

    Getting data out of the low-temperature zone is a very tough problem, and optical interconnects have to be used. The proposed memory bandwidth is huge: "For example, a particular architecture may require half a million data streams at 50 Gbps each between the superconducting processors and room-temperature SRAM." Developing devices to drive the output data links from the low temperature zone, without causing too much heating in the cold part of the system, is a big part of the problem.

    The justification for all this is in Appendix E, and sounds totally bogus. Either there's some desperate need for this technology they don't mention, or it's a boondoggle. There must be something important for which parallelism won't work. It's surprising to see this from NSA, because most signal analysis and crypto problems parallelize well.

  11. Pictures by Raul654 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was there in December. As is my hobby, I took pictures of basically everything in the museum, and then put them on Wikipedia. See the gallery here.

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  12. Heh, that one' easy by patio11 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can brute force the whole plaintext space in, like, 5 seconds. Unless they start creating an arbitrary number of wrong doors leading to distintegration chambers.

  13. Yeah, But It's Not the Real Deal Unless by aquatone282 · · Score: 2, Funny

    . . . the guide hollers "Red Badge!" before you enter every room.

    (Sorry - inside joke.)

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  14. Check out the Museum's library too by frantzen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was there in '02 or '03 and they had a small library that was open for a few hours every other Saturday. I spent more time sitting on the floor flipping through random WW2 declassified documents than I spent looking at the exhibits. One book was just old photocopies of reports about the german spies during WW2. They were dropped off on the easy coast by u-boat. And since germany couldn't pay them they were given a large quantity of cocaine that they were supposed to sell to fund their activities.

  15. True NSA computing story by rclandrum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    True story:

    I was a codebreaker in the Army Security Agency from 71 to 77 and for the last five years worked at NSA. Taught myself programming to help automate some of the analysis I was doing at the time and was fortunate enough to work on some of the incredible hardware they had in the basement then. In 77 I had to decide whether to stay in (and stay poor on Army pay - about 10K/yr then) or get out and do real work, and interviewed with a number of DOD contractors around DC. When I told the interviewer the CDC mainframe model I last programmed, he confidently told me that CDC didn't make that model yet. I managed to convince him they did by describing some of its attributes and got the job, thereby doubling my pay.

    The VN listening post exhibit is interesting. Brought back a lot of memories from when I was stationed is SE Asia during the latter part of that war, helping to process the stuff those guys were intercepting. Fascinating work, and if it wasn't for the Carter-era hiring freeze, I'd still be solving those puzzles for a living.