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FCC Ends 700 MHz Auction
Apu writes "Having received bids totaling $19.5 billion over 260 rounds of bidding, the FCC has announced the closing of Auction 73. The Chairman's statement notes that the auction has "raised more money than any [FCC] auction has ever raised" besting the 2006 Advanced Wireless Service-1 auction that raised $13.9 billion and topping the $10.6 billion Congress estimated it would receive for the 700 MHz spectrum. The New York Times reports that "the last bid in the auction was $91,000 for frequencies around Vieques, Puerto Rico." According to the FCC, "eight unsold licenses [...] remain held by the FCC and will again be made available [...] in a future auction." This includes the "D block" which was to be shared by commercial and public safety users and only received a single $472 million bid, below the $1.3 billion reserve price. However, as previously reported, the open access provisions will apply to one-third of the auctioned spectrum as the minimum $4.6 billion bid for the "C" block was received. The names of the winning bidders have not yet been made public."
"may" do so? Did the New York Times misspell "must"? Or is it that there is a lack of clarity in the FCC's administrative law as to how long it can go before it makes public the detailed results of the auction?
When the D Block gets resolved, the FCC will be allowed to reveal who won the other blocks.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
Under the published rules, the names will not be released until after the D block is re-auctioned, which could take more then a few weeks to occur. However, it is commonly believed that the FCC will waived the re-auction in favor of a different plan for the D-block. Thus, the FCC *may* release the names in the next few weeks, or may wait upto a few months until the disposition of the D block.
...to see how many of the bid winners manage not to default on their bids and actually deliver a working product.
And regarding the C-Block (?) for shared public/private usage, I am not surprised. As competitive as the telecomms are in wanting to keep their networks just to themselves, who would want to spend billions developing a nationwide network that would have to give free access to public service? Sure, it would be a boon to firefighters and police, but the telecomms don't seem to worry about good or bad PR.
Bearded Dragon
This plan would be unprofitable in most of the states, the ones with the least populations. With those states (ie, the Dakotas), there aren't enough people to justify the cost. With a nationwide network, that cost is absorbed by the profits in the 10 major population states.
Bearded Dragon
Is it irrelevant? That $19 billions is going to come out of our pockets over several years and yet will be spent in 7 weeks.
The 3G auctions in Europe raised a fortune for exchequers but the huge burden the placed on operators has crippled 3G roll-out for the best part of a decade.
Is it wrong to question how the money raised is spent?
With the erasure of the analog spectrum, a whole range of learned skills will be forgotten, a whole range of home projects will vanish. Once the television spectrum is done, then comes Radio. As a kid, I made my own home AM radios, an incredibly useful tool for the budding EE's in the world. the loss of such profound examples will cut off the joy of home electronic projects to another generation.
Karma Whoring for Fun and Profit.
$19.5 billion, Sounds like such a small number these days... What is that, a few weeks in Iraq? Or, 1/10 the amount it cost to bail out Bear Sterns?
you must be new here.
Onda Technology Institute
The government (i.e. the taxpayers) put up $30 billion to bail out Bear Stearns and allow JP Morgan to start buying them out. The $19.5 billion is then 2/3 of the price of the bail out.
Granted, moral hazard has all but been abandoned by the supposed experts at the Fed but hey, it's not their money they're using. Besides, couldn't let their buddies have to suffer the slings and arrows of the free market, now could we?
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Instead of rights to electromagnetic spectrum, box contained bobcat. Would not buy again.
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I'm planning to use that part of the frequency spectrum to broadcast round the clock demo tapes from '80s cover bands, the piano works of Conlon Nancarrow and the speeches of Everett Dirksen.
And if you're wondering, yes, I've got the idea protected legally, so don't try to beat me out of the gate.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Not really, but he could have massaged the conversation in the direction of spending of the money before complaining about it. What everyone wants to know here is if Google won or not.
which is totally what she said
With those states (ie, the Dakotas), there aren't enough people to justify the cost. With a nationwide network, that cost is absorbed by the profits in the 10 major population states.
What incentive would a nationwide private owner of a spectrum have to provide service to the Dakotan's when they can focus on the East and West Coasts? This is what happens to many rural communities when you have major companies like Verizon or Comcast with land line service so the same thing would most likley apply to wireless.
Unless you dictate that the owner of this spectrum must provide service to all 50 states (including Alaska) then its not going to happen because its just not profitable.
In all reality, if South or North Dakota had control over their own wireless then a smaller then you could see municipality ISPs for those far off places or at least small start up companies would take the risk in providing wireless broad band to sparsely populated areas.
"I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
-Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
Inflation is good because of the irresponsible actions of many that get them into debt? I research a $200 purchase to make sure that I am getting what I want yet these people can't do some research when they are making a purchase as large as a home? I am so damn sick of hearing about these poor ignorant people who were swindled. That is not the case 99% of the time, they got greedy and tried to buy more house than they could afford. Sorry but I don't see how it is my responsibility to pay for the irresponsibility of others. Where is my government check for all of the money I've lost in the market because of this mess???
I'm not not licking toads.
...is that the Federal Government just instituted another tax (a $19 Billion tax) - that I must pay - in order to use the supposed 'public' airways. Used for some telecomm service - there'll be an additional tax on top of that. ....And we wonder why our wireless phone bills are so high.
While I won't say that the Fed and the SEC have handled this whole situation well, I don't see this particular situation as having ANY good outcome. A run had actually started on Bear Stearns, and it was going to collapse totally within a couple of days. So their creditors would need to write off those debts. And since those debts are often held as collateral by other organizations, that puts them at risk too.
And before going all populist with the "Good - serves them right" bit, remember that as it spreads, it starts affecting institutions closer to home - pension funds, mutual funds (got a 401k?), local depositor banks, etc. And the Federal Gov't has a legal obligation to bail some of them out.
It's all ugly, but gone are the days of the proletariat vs. the capitalists - if you have a 401k, own any stock, have deposits in a bank, have a pension, you ARE a capitalist.
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
How do you figure? Are you suggesting that 3G roll-out has been quicker in other countries where the governemnt gave away valuable rights to private companies for free instead of selling them?
Whatever an operator payed for a license is sunk cost. The subsequent roll-out will be at whatever pace is economically feasible and will not be affected by the amount payed for the license.
Am I the only one that has a fundamental problem with the fact that the FCC is even allowed to do this? Admittedly, I don't understand the ins and outs of the entire spectrum business, but how does a federal agency have the right to charge anyone anything for use of the airwaves? The cost of this is going to go right back to the users of the spectrum, not the company. And what does the FCC do with the 19 Billion dollars they raised?
I have a hard time believing that US citizens come out better for this, in any way shape or form. And isn't that what the government is supposed to be all about? Provide a service to the people?
I've heard a lot of economists and "experts" (and the IMF - who are neither ;) ) say a very different thing during the Asian financial crisis in 1997. Especially the western ones.
They were saying "no bailouts".
I figure they wanted stuff to go bust so they could buy it all up cheap and thus gain more power and wealth.
Hypocracy - the rule or power through hypocrisy.
If the funding for a Sunk Cost comes from borrowing then of course it affects future business decisions. European networks paid $129 billion for 3G licenses. Vodafone alone spent more than $30 billion. It seems unlikely that sort of money came from cash surpluses.
In Japan, 3G licenses were free. Looking at the state of the mobile market there, and comparing it with that in Europe, then yes, I'd say that huge cost delayed roll out and by increasing user costs slowed uptake.
Sorry, but no. Whatever investments a company chooses to make in 3G roll-out is only based on what they can expect each investment to return. Are you suggesting that an investment with an expected ROI of x% will be made if the debt is below $y, but will not be made if it is above $y?
Also, why compare to Japan? Compare to Sweden, where the Social Democrats gave the licenses away. It turned out that making massive investments in infrastructure in areas where only few people lived did not make any economic sense even when the operators had not paid for the licenses. Strange that, huh?
The mobile market in Japan is much more mature, hence all the "texting like a Japanese teenager" references here and elsewhere.
But there is a return even by not deploying a network - other startups can't rollout a competing network.
Why not compare to the original GSM licenses in the UK for Vodafone and Telecom Securicor Cellular Radio? They had coverage obligations. Those coverage obligations were absent from the 3G auctions because with no obligations, carriers would bid more for the license to prevent others gaining a license, and then deploy at a slower pace as funds allowed.
I don't think a great deal of thought was paid to the amounts being bid at auction time, and hence thepost auction impact.
Sweden has 1/10 the population density of the UK, so rollout in the UK should have been more cost efficient by an order of magnitude.
Yes, I too have heard the same tripe sounded about why Bear Stearns could not fail and why they had to be bailed out (even if they are being bought out). The problem is, as we have now seen, someone would have stepped in to buy them and their assets anyway, so the government shoveling more money down the drain wouldn't have mattered.
Yes, there would have been some consternation in the markets as the apoplectic seizures hit the street but that is what the free market is all about. Bear Stearns, and others, thought it was great when they were leveraging their holdings ten, twenty or even thirty times over. It was all parties and bonuses so long as their excessive risk paid off.
However, when the dangers of their risk became real, rather than do the right thing and unwind their positions, even at a loss, they held onto their leveraged positions, hoping upon hope that the next trade would work out (sound familiar?).
Bear tried to beat the market and ignored sound investment principles. They played with fire and they got burned. That's life. It does not matter that those who have/had their investments with Bear have money to burn (compared to the rest of us); this is not a schadenfreude moment. This is about not gaming system for the benefit of a few.
Sure, those who hold Bears stock got hammered, but so have millions of others who held stock in now defunct companies. Where are the tears for them? How about the employees of Enron who lost, in some cases, their entire retirement savings when Lay and others manipulated markets and cooked the books. Don't they deserve to be bailed out?
Either we are going to let the markets operate as they should, which means accepting wild gyrations up AND down, and only have intervention as an absolute last resort, or we abandon free market principles entirely and admit that the government will manipulate market conditions as best it can to promote upward swings while lessening or preventing downward falls. This notion that somehow there needs to be an orderly market is a fallacy. Markets, true markets, are not orderly. They are run on fact and rumor. The irrational investor and all that.
I couldn't believe it when I heard it, but of all the hacks out there pontificating on this bail out, Larry Kudlow actually said on live tv that the bail out of Bear Stearns was not right. Of course he then went on to say how the Fed needs to do more, but that's another subject. He also said that as of late, the Fed has injected $850 million into the markets, trying to make adjustments. Nearly a trillion taxpayer dollars, in the form of future debt payments, have been poured into the markets to prop up those who took on too much risk and as a direct result, any attempt at saving by the average American has been crushed.
In short, the Fed is doing everything in its power to see to it that saving is not an option. After all, if you're not earning enough interest on your accounts to beat inflation, why save it? Just spend, spend, spend. Forget about debt, it doesn't matter. Buy those Chinese made goods. Don't save for a rainy day. Exactly the same mindset that got us into this mess.
The markets need to do what the markets will do. This nanny-state interfering is only serving to prolong this recession and making things worse.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower