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Cubicle Security For Laptops, Electronics?

kamikasee writes "I recently found out that I'm going to be moved from an office to a cubicle. The cubicle area is not very secure, and I'm worried about things wandering off. My boss has offered to buy some equipment to help me secure things, but so far I haven't found anything that fits my requirements. Google and Amazon searches are overwhelmed by lockable key cabinets and larger pieces of furniture. Here are some of the requirements: The main issue with traditional solutions (e.g. locking things in a drawer) is convenience. I use a laptop with a second LCD monitor. There's also an external keyboard and mouse and a USB hard drive. I leave my laptop on at night so I can remote-desktop into it, so I'm not really happy about putting it in a drawer (no ventilation), plus I don't like the idea of having to 'unharness' everything every time I want to put it away. I don't trust cable locks. Besides, cable locks won't help me secure my the USB drive and other electronics that might wander off. The solution I imagine is a lockable, ventilated metal box that would sit under the monitor and house most of the electronics. If it was big enough, I could stick my laptop into it at night (while leaving it running) and feel confident that it would still be there in the morning. I'd be open to other types of solutions. Surely someone else must have dealt with this problem."

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  1. Never dealt with that sort of problem by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never personally dealt with that sort of problem. It's probably because I work with professionals.

    YMMV.

    1. Re:Never dealt with that sort of problem by LinuxInDallas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And that is what we though where I work as well. Here's the deal, how professional are the janitors? How about maintenance workers that are on-site tmie to time. Can you really trust them? We also had issue with someone that was able to sneak into the building over lunch one day and wander off with people's belongings. Forget the people you actually work with, they probably are completely trustworthy. it's everyone else that can gain access to your building that you should worry about.

    2. Re:Never dealt with that sort of problem by vonFinkelstien · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here is Sweden it is very common for drug addicts or organized crime gangs to break into schools and businesses at night to steal computers. LCD monitors and laptops are prime targets. The private school I teach at has had the teachers' room broken into 4 times in the past 2 years. Now, I put my monitor on the floor every night so thieves can't just look in the window and see easy pickings.

  2. Don't Have stealable stuff by temojen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do you have a laptop if you don't take it with you? What do other people in the cube farm do? Why do you have your own equipment at work?

    1. Re:Don't Have stealable stuff by nickj6282 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I was kind of wondering this myself. If your boss is moving you from a locked office to an open cube then it sounds like his problem if his employees steal his equipment from your desk.

      If you are bringing personal items (USB drive, iPod, cellphone, etc.) to work with you there are a few options:
      1. Leave this stuff at home
      2. Don't let it out of your sight and take it with you when you leave for lunch (this is what I do with my iPod/cellphone/etc. when working, although I can leave it out on my desk in plain sight and it will still be there later because my coworkers are not douchebags)
      3. Keep these items in a plain unassuming backpack under your desk
      4. Lock these items in a desk drawer when you are in the office and don't leave them at work
      Also, why do you have a laptop if you're just going to leave it in the office when you go home? I've worked at places where that was grounds for dismissal. Don't they have a VPN where you work?
    2. Re:Don't Have stealable stuff by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why do you have a laptop if you don't take it with you? Quite. Easy solution : don't use a laptop, find a DEC PDP 10 on eBay. Nobody will steal that. And if somebody somehow does, you'll notice immediately when it's disconnected by the way the whole city block's lights suddenly brighten.

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    3. Re:Don't Have stealable stuff by The+Fanta+Menace · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If your boss is moving you from a locked office to an open cube then it sounds like his problem...

      If my boss was moving me from an office into a cubicle, I'd be looking for another job. That's just insulting.

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    4. Re:Don't Have stealable stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      Posting anon in case the coworker reads this...

      At my office we've just moved into a cube farm. Some of us came from cubes, so it's not a big deal. One coworker had her own office; she's been fun to watch.

      She's been bitching up a storm about how her cube, the door of which is visible from the pathway between cubes so people walking by can see what she's doing, isn't appropriate.

      So far, she tried the following "remedies":
      • Screaming at our manager that she doesn't have the room she needs to work
      • Moving empty file cabinets to block the entrance to her cube
      • Hanging a blanket across the entrance to her cube with a handmade "keep out" sign attached
      • extending her lunch break from her traditional two hours to three, saying it takes her longer to get to the gym now

  3. Simple solution by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Simple solution: Don't bring your personal computer or electronic devices to work. If your company's security is such that company property disappears, then that is the company's problem. In real life, this is not a big problem. With the exception of lunches in the refrigerator, coworkers are not going to steal your stuff in a healthy work culture. But to be save, don't leave your personal devices laying around. If it is your own personal computer, however, then get the company to provide you with a company computer.

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    1. Re:Simple solution by Swampash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Simple solution: Don't bring your personal computer or electronic devices to work. If your company's security is such that company property disappears, then that is the company's problem.

      Quoted for great justice.

      Company gear, company premises, company's obligation to secure it. if I came in to work tomorrow morning and my desktop computer and monitor were gone, I'd inform our IT manager and tell him to call me when they have been found or replaced.

      Seriously, if you're not working for yourself, why on earth would you take your OWN laptop into a place of business? That's retarded.

    2. Re:Simple solution by Eadwacer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I understand some companies already make boxes with motherboards and hard drives in them and everything, and they sit on your desk like a big tower, and they're not portable so hardly anyone ever steals them. You could see if your notebook maker has a section that sells specialty items like that...

    3. Re:Simple solution by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      It sounds expensive. A special box just for computer parts?

  4. A box could easily be stolen by _merlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you lock the stuff in a box, people could just steal the box and cut it open at their leisure. I think your real problem is that you don't trust your workmates. If your workmates are, in fact, untrustworthy you probably need a new job. Another strong possibility is that you're unduly suspicious of the people around you.

  5. 2 words by Plazmid · · Score: 5, Funny

    2 words: Mini fridge. Provides ample cooling and looks like something you would have in a typical office. People don't tend to look in a mini fridge for a laptop or data. As long as no one knows that you keep your stuff in it your safe. Maybe put a couple of drinks in there, to hide your laptop or even a secret compartment.

    1. Re:2 words by Hao+Wu · · Score: 4, Funny

      What do you hide the fridge in?

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    2. Re:2 words by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Funny

      Isn't it obvious? A normal-sized 'fridge.

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  6. Easy! by rindeee · · Score: 4, Funny

    I recommend Nessman-esque masking tape walls and door. Simply enforce pretend knocking and 'lock' it at night. Problem solved.

    1. Re:Easy! by gooman · · Score: 4, Funny

      A co-worker and I built a "Les Nessman office wall and door" to our work area which was a big open room.
      We got a lot laughs and comments from visitors. Most would knock on our pretend door.

      Our Korean boss did not understand the humor at all.
      Since he refused to use our indicated door, one day we bought a pre-hung door and set it up.
      Mind you there were no walls, just this door-frame and door to our office in the middle of the big room.

      He didn't say a word, but the following Monday the door and the tape on the floor was gone.
      There was also a memo about no more personal items of any kind to be brought into work.

      Spoil sport

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    2. Re:Easy! by myth_of_sisyphus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When I worked at Apple, there was a guy who built an igloo with styrofoam over his cubicle. Didn't have a door but it was a nice cubicle-igloo. One night I went to check it out, seeing as how it was 1 am and there was nobody in the building. His office was lined with monitors displaying a trippy acid pattern that had me mesmerized for about 15 minutes. Just the quiet of the office building and the dim lights with the monitors going all loopy and the igloo above created a very serene environment.

      Then I heard "Can I help you?" And I jumped. I turned around and there was a bearded guy in a sleeping bag. I said ".....uhhhhhh......sorry" and leaped out of there.

      I never did find out who it was or why he did that. I wasn't really supposed to be in that area of the building at that time so asking around was a no-go.

      If anybody knows, I'd like to hear it. This was about 1990 in DeAnza 3 or 4.

  7. No kidding! by raehl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have not locked the door to my office in years. People leave their child's fund raising goodies out on tables and you just put the money you're supposed to in the envelope if you take something.

    Where do you work that people are stealing stuff all the time?

    Or are you just mega-paranoid?

    1. Re:No kidding! by nacturation · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No kidding indeed. I often leave my wallet on my desk all day (open environment, no cubes) and I'm not even concerned that someone might look at it funny. My guess is that the submitter works in a high school or a prison.

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    2. Re:No kidding! by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably not a coworker. There's an entire class of criminals who dresses nicely, get past the badge readers on doors just by asking nicely to be let in (works quite consistantly), and just wanders around stealing something valuable. Also, the cleaning staff sometimes decides it's time for some bonus pay.

      I worked in one office where *dozens* of laptops were stolen over a period of *weeks* until the security company convinced the cleaning company to fire the guy with the felony theft record. The theft mysteriously stopped at that point.

      Thinking "my coworkers are professional, so I need not fear theft" is naive at best.

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    3. Re:No kidding! by Aaron+Denney · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Secondly they are in a police station which often houses not only police but also known and suspected criminals.


      These are occasionally the same people.
    4. Re:No kidding! by __aagbwg300 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I work at a very large medical school in the Bronx with real professionals and trust everyone who gets a badge. Thus it was strange when a rash of laptop thefts hit the complex that I work in. Each disappearance happened in broad daylight, oftentimes when a researcher had just stepped out to smoke a cigarette, go to the bathroom etc.

      You would be amazed at how quickly a person's progressive attitude is changed when their laptop is stolen. The European researchers blamed the Chinese, the Chinese blamed the South Americans and the Americans (myself included) .... blamed other Americans. In either case, morale in the entire place was shot. People were seen bringing their laptops into the bathroom (for non-masturbatory purposes!). No one trusted anyone else.

      After almost a hundred thefts security stopped a guy in a Fed-Ex uniform with a bag full of laptops. He got past the checkpoint by claiming that his packages had to be signed in person by the noted party (warning bells? We have a loading dock and people to do that.). When the cops came, he confessed only to stealing the laptops in his bag and claimed that it was his first time. The laptop thefts stopped for a few weeks.... and then started back up!

      In the end it turned out to be one of the security guards. No one would have caught him if he hadn't been storing hot laptops IN HIS LOCKER. So the moral of the story is that if someone wants to steal your unattended laptop, they will.

    5. Re:No kidding! by alta · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's funny you should mention this, I saw this on oddly enough last week.

      Lawyer: So you saw the defendant commit the crime?
      Officer: No, another officer did.
      Lawyer: And do you always trust everything other officers say?
      Officer: I trust trust them with my life!
      Lawyer:So officer, if you trust them with your life, tell me why you have locks on your lockers.
      Officer: You see, our precinct just happens to be in the city courtouse. There are also lawyers in that building.

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    6. Re:No kidding! by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "I started out saying "cleaning crew," but that's maybe a bit presumptuous, and could easily be viewed as prejudice. Of course, most of the regular employees make enough (we're engineers) that stealing a laptop and risking a career doing so makes very little sense. I'm not sure how closely the Rent-a-Cops are scrutinized. One hopes they are. Laying default blame in any direction without evidence is could easily be mistaken for racism, sadly. Cleaning crew and cafeteria staff? Almost exclusively Hispanic. The Rent-a-Cops? Almost exclusively African American. The engineering staff? It's the most diverse, but mostly Caucasian, East Indian, Asian."

      [rant]

      You know...I'm getting very tired of everyone having to walk on egg shells to avoid the 'racism' card being thrown at them.

      At no time, did I, nor many other threads here that said it was often the cleaning service...mention race. Only categories of jobs were mentioned...Rent-a-cops, janitors, etc. Now...if one ethnic group tends to predominate in one of these jobs where you work, and they happen to be stealing stuff, it doesn't make it any less true that it was the cleaning crew.

      God...lets face it. Sometimes, black people sell crack. Sometimes hispanic people steal things, some asian drivers are poor drivers, sometimes white people are white trash. These are truths...they happen. Not everyone of a race does these things, but, some do, and I'm getting sick and tired of when someone points out that someone of a certain race has done something wrong, that they are either labeled racist or afraid they'll be thought of as one. Sometimes actions of a person *DO* play into a stereotype...it happens, and if you see it and say it, it does not make you a racist. That is only if you make blanket statements that ALL [insert race here]'s steal things while at work, are you making a racist statement.

      Geez, lets all grow some thicker skin, and not be so quick to throw the racist card, and lets not be so scared of having it played, that we're scared to say something that might in some cases, happen to be true.

      [/rant]

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  8. I didn't bother to count how many words... by explosivejared · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... Laser based thief destruction system. If there is anything you learn from being an American, and I am proudly one, it is that you can't overspend on defense. You gotta make all those thieving morons out there realize that they are dealing with death here.

    Also, to back up the laser grid, I'd go with some more conventional systems, eg an automated machine gun turret and an anti-personnel mine field.

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    1. Re:I didn't bother to count how many words... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Funny

      There will be legal problems if you trap a human thief though. Even if you file down the sides of the bear trap and a leave a stash of twinkies nearby so they don't starve over a long weekend. And land mines are right out. Trust me, I speak from experience.

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  9. My workplace is so honest... by raehl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somebody who left the company left a beer in the fridge.

    6 years ago.

    It's still there.

    Either that, or someone who does not normally drink has stashed the beer there in the event they do have to leave the company...

    1. Re:My workplace is so honest... by grnbrg · · Score: 4, Funny

      You DO NOT talk about Fight Club!

  10. Lateral thinking... by lelitsch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe you should consider switching jobs to a company that isn't populated by thieves or situated in a crack alley?

  11. Physical and logical security by mlts · · Score: 5, Informative

    To the OP: How bad is the thievery rate? Is it a place where anybody can enter to possibly steal, or is it a place where you need locks to keep honest people honest?

    You can get some decent cable locks that are Bic Pen resistant. I use these:

    http://us.kensington.com/html/11208.html
    on all my equipment, be it desktop or laptop. Of course, they can be cut, but it would be a dedicated effort to do so.

    First, the locking cabinet is an idea, but of course if someone is desperate enough to cut cable locks, they likely will try for the cabinet if its not bolted down. You could go with a motion detecting alarm, or a locking cable that has an alarm that will sound if cut, but co-workers will get really annoyed if the system makes false alarms often.

    Kensington's alarmed lock: http://us.kensington.com/html/6311.html

    Second, have you considered a dock for your laptop, if one is available? Almost all docks have some way of locking the laptop to the dock either via a lever and a padlock or something using a Kensington lock slot. Then, you can hook all your monitors and items to the dock and just do a simple eject to hit the road with your laptop.

    Third, have you considered logical security? If you are worried about data theft as opposed to physical, consider something like TrueCrypt that can encrypt your Windows boot/system drive, and also encrypt data on external drives. If you use keyfiles, after you type in your preboot passphrase, the external drives can automount while still providing security from thieves. For further protection, you can use TrueCrypt on external drives, and use PGP's whole disk encryption with a cryptographic hardware token. Then, you can use cable locks for your devices and if someone does steal one, it will be "merely" a hardware theft rather than hardware and sensitive data.

    Last, if you can't find a metal box, have you considered hitting a metal shop with the dimensions of what you want for a cage, and having them weld you up one? I have had this done (and the cage bolted down solidly) when I wanted to make sure some file servers, switch, and a router would not be stolen. Even though I did not know who other than myself had the key to the room the equipment was in, only I had the key to that cage, so I knew that the equipment might be powered off or perhaps vandalized, it wouldn't be stolen without some major effort. A welder can use pinless hinges and tabs so someone attempting to break into the cage by a crowbar wouldn't be successful.

  12. Perfect solution by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get crappier stuff nobody will steal, problem solved.

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  13. Suck it up, princess. by MoneyCityManiac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, this sounds like someone who's just bitter about losing their office to a cubicle and causing a stink.

    Your laptop and associated paraphernalia are the property of your company. If they happen to find legs then that's an issue for your company to deal with, not you. Hopefully you back up your data, so if your laptop does grow legs it's just a day or two to get up and running with a new lappy.

    Besides, your co-workers are in the same position, so if they're not reporting thefts then you probably won't be either. And if there is a problem of theft in your office then perhaps you should be pushing your manager to make your workplace more secure, rather just just your workspace.

  14. High voltage by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get an old 24 inch CRT monitor and wire the flyback into an anti-static mat and chair in your cubical. Anyone entering your cubical will get the message that they are not welcome.

  15. Is a solution really what he wants by bombastinator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    About 5 minutes of googling found me vast numbers of things, from laptop locks impervious to the toilet paper tube solution, to locking shelves instead of drawers, to a bar style locking device IIRC I've seen used at CompUSA. Large numbers of people have his issue as evidenced by the large number of solutions available.

    My suspicion is that the poster really kinda wants his office back and is making excuses. If this is the case it is natural that no solution is going to work.

  16. Hi, I just got demoted... by rueger · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... from a real office into a cube, and now I'm all pissed off 'cause when I was higher up the food chain I crapped on all of the cube dwellers. Now I'm gonna be one of them and frankly it doesn't look good.

    If I had half a brain I'd have treated these folks with respect, or at least would now be trying to make a few friends, but frankly I am just so superior that I can't be bothered. I'm sure that they all resent me -- excuse me -- are envious of me -- and that they are just lying in wait to steal my stuff (OK, it's the company's stuff, but hey it's got MY porn on it, so that's like it's mine) and probably spit on my keyboard and give some horrible cube dweller disease.

    So I'm taking preemptive action by bitching and moaning about how everyone else here is dishonest. That way maybe they'll be scared to mess with my stuff, cause everybody knows that I'm on to them.

  17. Easy... by Repton · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get the laptop case laser-engraved with goatse. Who's gonna steal it then?

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  18. What condensation? by raehl · · Score: 5, Informative

    Condensation occurs when the temperature of an object is below the dew point. Dew points go up with an increase in humidity. But dew points are also generally lower than the atmospheric temperature, otherwise it'd be raining. You get dew when the air warms up faster than the ground warms up, so the moisture in the air condenses onto the ground.

    But...

    If the only thing in his fridge is his laptop, there won't be any moisture in there anyway.

    Even if he puts lettuce or some other unsealed moisture-providing item into the fridge, the HOTTEST thing in the fridge, and thus the last thing to get any condensation, is going to be the laptop.

    And, in general...

    You don't see condensation IN a fridge. Go open your fridge now and tell me how many items in there have condensation on them. Maybe none?

    It's when you take your items OUT of the fridge that moisture condenses onto them, since they are colder than the air they are in.

    So, really, no condensation worries, as long as he doesn't take the laptop out of a cold fridge.

  19. A solution: webcam. But you have other problems... by wernst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm going to get to a solution first, but you have other problems.

    For security, put up a webcam or two in your new cubicle: both overlooking your workspace. Make sure they are visible and have bright or blinking LEDs, so they'll be really noticed. Put up a warning sign saying that this space is remotely monitored and digitally recored. Even if it really isn't, the warning should be enough to keep the basic rif-raff away. Sometimes deterrence is better than physical security...

    Now then. Here's the real problem.

    You speak as if this notebook is your personal property. It really shouldn't be. Your company should be supplying you with the equipment you need to do your job, and if the company equipment gets stolen when you're not around, that's the company's fucking problem, not yours.

    Secondly, you say this notebook has an external monitor, standalone keyboard and separate mouse. That sure sounds like a desktop computer to me. Get one instead of the notebook, and the chances of your computer walking off are slim to none.

    Third, what place are you working in where you fear your stuff will be taken? I've done time in cubicles since 1988, in places ranging from digital sweatshops, to NASA-type work with spaceship software support, to fortune-500 joints. Never once have I ever had anything taken from my desk more serious than a stapler. I don't even lock the drawers or file cabinets.

    Maybe it's time to look for a new shop, since they don't supply you properly, kicked you out of your office, and they employ co-workers that you fear will steal your shit.

  20. serious no sarcasm answer by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1) biometric finger print reader
    2) cable lock for laptop and external monitor(they really are quite good)
    3) pre boot authentication (integrated with finger pricnt reader)
    4) full disk encryption - Utimaco Safeguard Easy (integrated with finger pricnt reader)
    5) data dot dna (tiny dots with serial numbers that can be stuck/hidden on your equipment)
    6) Computrace (software that cannot easily be removed and so when your stolen machine connects to the internet it will send its location to the computrace who will work with the ISP local law enforment to retrieve the stolen machine)
    7) SafeEnd End point security, individually controls/records usb, i/o, ethernet ports
    8) insurance

    i got all this with my thinkpad, not because my co-workers are theives but because my companies insurance premiums are high and i have sensitive customer data on my machine which is required by law to be encrypted.

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    1. Re:serious no sarcasm answer by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

      It can lock the screen, play a sound file (I picked the extremely annoying high-pitched beep) when it is jiggled ever so slightly (adjustable sensitivity), take a pic of who/whatever's in front of it and ftp it to a server of your choosing and a few other options. But can it explode like a Dell?

  21. the perfect solution by hazem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Besides, cable locks won't help me secure my the USB drive and other electronics that might wander off. The solution I imagine is a lockable, ventilated metal box that would sit under the monitor and house most of the electronics. If it was big enough, I could stick my laptop into it at night (while leaving it running) and feel confident that it would still be there in the morning. I'd be open to other types of solutions. Surely someone else must have dealt with this problem."

    This is a common problem and what you're looking for is called a desktop computer. It's a box that sits under the monitor with all the electronics enclosed inside. It even has fans and vents to keep it all working at a proper temperature. /sarcasm

    Seriously, the whole point of a laptop is that it's portable and convenient to carry around, which also makes it easy to steal. The desktop can do all the things you need and will probably be more powerful than your laptop and cost about the same as some kind of powered box for locking your laptop in.

    Then you can just leave the laptop locked in your drawer for when you need to work away from the desk.

  22. Translation of OP's question into Accurate English by jolyonr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "My boss wants me to move out of my nice office into a cubicle, give me some nice EXPENSIVE technical bullshit reason I can give him to dissuade him."

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