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US Ignores Unwelcome WTO IP Rulings

Eye Log writes "The United States is a big fan of leaning on other countries to tighten IP and copyright protection, but has a tendency to ignore its own obligations when it doesn't get its way. 'Two ongoing cases illustrate the point. First, the European Union is pushing for the US to change a pair of rules that it calls "long-standing trade irritants." Despite World Trade Organization rulings against it, the US has not yet corrected either case for a period of several years... Apparently, it's easy to get hot and bothered when it's industries from your country that claim to be badly affected by rules elsewhere. When it comes to the claims of other countries, though, even claims that have been validated by the WTO, it's much easier to see the complexity of the situation, to spend years arguing those complexities before judges, and to do nothing even when compelled by rulings.'"

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  1. And you are surprised because ... ? by coutch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given the way this administration has been handling Foreign Policy, this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone ...

    1. Re:And you are surprised because ... ? by schon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      US corps act in their own interest exclusively, with no concern for "fairness". That's even a legal requirement of the directors and officers of a corp. Except that this isn't a "corp", it's the fscking US Government

      It's hypocritical for representatives of the US government to lambaste other countries for WTO "violations", when the US Government turns a blind eye to infringement happening in their own country.

      Either the US government is for strict interpretation and enforcement or it's not. Pick one.
    2. Re:And you are surprised because ... ? by Admiral+Ag · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Look, you can't have trade without rules. Americans are able to trade with each other because the US has laws enforcing contracts and agreements. It is no different between states: some agreement about the rules is required to protect people who want to trade across borders. If the US wants to ignore the agreements it has made, then other countries will ignore their agreements and everyone will be worse off. International trade is for the most part beneficial to all parties. Actions like this are the result of special interests and are damaging not only to other countries but to Americans who aren't part of that interest group.

      The US is a sovereign nation with a sovereign government given the power to enact treaties with other nations. If you expect other nations to live up to their side of the treaties you like, then you have to stick to your obligations under the ones you don't like. The US is no longer in the position where it can violate whatever treaty it likes without consequences. This is not 1950. You aren't even the world's largest economy any more and the status of the dollar as reserve currency is the lowest it has been since the signing of Bretton Woods.

      Simple self interest ought to be enough to motivate the US to abide by the agreements it has made.

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    3. Re:And you are surprised because ... ? by KDR_11k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you don't like the WTO rules or think they infringe on your sovereignty don't join the WTO. If you do join then you should do your part.

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  2. Who cares really? by knivesx11 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The big problem with the WTO is that it exists to try to find equities in other peoples laws. In my country its legal to do something that might be illegal in yours. The problem with that is that its great when people are talking about physical properties, however its much more difficult when dealing with the same disputes on intellectual property. If I play a radio in my work than its the station that sells advertisements that pays for the songs. As long as I don't advertise the fact like some kind of main street concert hall than I'm not sure why it matters.

  3. Re:IP stakes are "increasing"? by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IP should stand for "imaginary" rather than "intellectual" property. It means absolutely nothing if nobody agrees to enforce it, and as such does not provide a secure or stable source of GDP.

    Any economist foolish enough to believe in "IP" as a long term foundation for an economy is not only incompetent, but dangerous to whomever he councils.

    You either take action against outsourcing or you face the slides happening in the US economy now.

    jobs get outsourced
    government doesnt take action
    rents go up, job opportunities go down, inflation occurs as your constant trade imbalance floods the rest of the planet with fiat money.

    economies are based on production of real goods and services, not residual income dependent only on the willing
      compliance of neighbors.

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  4. Re:There is no World Government... by Petrushka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I can gain an advantage by getting others to follow phony rules, good for me, but I'm not bound by them.

    Note that this is significantly different than treaties,

    You seem to be under the impression that the WTO is an organisation that just appeared out of thin air -- rather than, say, as a result of lots of countries signing up to binding agreements -- also known as "treaties" (such as GATT and the Marrakesh Agreement).

    If you think it's a good thing for your country to abdicate the responsibilities it has itself assumed under the provisions of treaties it willingly signed, then you are simply wanting your country to be a criminal, or rogue state.

    By the way, remind me never to sign any contract with you ...

  5. Re:Thank you US government by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It happens all the time, but only when the "us" referred to make over 1 million dollars gross income per year and provide "campaign contributions" to the relevant lawmakers.

    for the rest of us there's:
    the dmca
    local monopoly power for ISP's
    rubber stamped mergers across the board (you have freedom of choice! you can choose "the x company" or nothing at all!)
    the real id act
    the patriot act
    warrantless wiretapping and retroactive immunity when we sue for it
    continuous streams of supreme court rulings which invalidate the crumbling constitution (see anything signed by souter)
    the rise of the fourth estate, which is now so in bed with the government it may as well be state run.

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  6. China crisis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Weren't the trade sanctions against Cuba put there and don't they remain there in part because of Cuban human rights abuses?

    Yes. That explains those extensive sanctions against China too.

    Oh, hang on ...

  7. Re:Autonomy by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The UN and WTO are a bit too socialistic for my tastes, but that's just me.
    You have to be really on the right end of the fascist scale to claim that the WTO is socialist, given that it was created by the USA to serve the interests of capitalism.
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