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Huge Interest Brings Wikileaks Offline

DragonFire1024 writes "Wikinews.org — The Wikileaks website, which publishes sensitive and censored material submitted by anonymous contributors, has experienced unprecedented levels of Internet traffic today through public interest. This interest has caused the website's servers to be unable to meet the enormous demand of over 164 gigabytes of download traffic within twenty-four hours, leading the site to be temporarily inaccessible."

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  1. rubbing salt in the wound by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    This interest has caused the website's servers to be unable to meet the enormous demand of over 164 gigabytes of download traffic within twenty-four hours, leading the site to be temporarily inaccessible." And so you post the story to slashdot with a link to the site in the summary. Why don't you give 'em papercut and pour lemon juice in, too?
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    1. Re:rubbing salt in the wound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wikinews is not Wikileaks... This article links to Wikinews article about Wikileaks incident. There is no link to Wikileaks.

  2. coral cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This link bypasses DNS poisoning and uses a caching proxy to take the load off Wikileaks servers: http://88.80.13.160.nyud.net:8080/wiki/Wikileaks

  3. Must be the thethans... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Funny

    It must be the operating thethans(TM) of the church of $cientology® who DDOSed it following the "leak" of their "holy" (as in "full of holes") "scriptures"...

  4. Re:Not offline? by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 3, Insightful

    as a precautionary measure, i honestly think we *should take note whenever WL goes down.

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  5. Re:Spread the word. by phoenixwade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Which is another way of saying, Mirroring. Which is another way to say "Needs Mirroring" What I find interesting is the Slashdot effect exceeded the Slashdot effect.... In other words, Wiki-rumors, it's not just for geeks anymore....
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  6. Server move by cyxs · · Score: 5, Informative
    wikileak.org says that its being moved not offline due to demand.

    WikiLeakS.org seems to be down for maintenance and upgrades at the PRQ Internet hosting facility in Stockholm, Sweden
  7. How ironic... by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess the gist of the current Fitna debacle is that "Islam is a religion of peace and we'll kill everyone who doesn't think so". You know what is the worst possible reaction to this? Tolerance. You cannot be tolerant if someone threatens you with violence if you don't comform to his point of view. Taking the video down from a lot of sites in order to avoid violence is understandable if done due to fear, but collectively we, as society cannot be afraid from some archaic religious madmen.

    So, if you're afraid, but only slightly, please rehost the video. Anyone got a link to it so that I can mirror it on my own site?

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    1. Re:How ironic... by xtracto · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just saw the video (downloaded from Wikileaks), and I can tell you that from what I saw there, and from what I have read, it seems to me that Islam is a really fucked up religion. And this time I mean the religion, not the church. The religion is what? 300 hundred years old? still thinking in stoning women for prostitution or whatnot?

      As you said, you just can not "solve" the differences between Islam believers and the western society. Because for them, solving means that all of us convert to Islam. Some people (in Europe mainly) believe that the solution is to "integrate" Islamist better in the society, but shit, then you have the killer of Theo van Gogh, who was Islamist and comnplete Netherlands citizen (and it seems he was very succesful).

      I say we take all the Scientologists, put them in their ship and take them to a trip through West Asia so they can confront to the equally crazy Islamist haha.

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    2. Re:How ironic... by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The religion is what? 300 hundred years old?
      More like 1500 years. But that is not the point.

      Whereas I do not doubt that everything shown in the film has happened, I do think that it is highly selective; someone trying to stir up trouble against Muslims.

      There are people on both sides of this who are stirring the pot. I do not think that most muslims are seeking Jihad, however some are. I don't know enough about it. It is an error to put all muslims into one group, there are many different sects with different views, some benign, some not so.

      Whatever you do: don't take everything at face value.

  8. This is largely due to Fitna by Sara+Chan · · Score: 4, Informative

    The increase in interest on Wikileaks is largely due to hosting the anti-Islam film Fitna . The film was moved to Google Video—
    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3369102968312745410

    —after Islamists told Wikileaks that they would be killed for hosting the film.

    1. Re:This is largely due to Fitna by dubz · · Score: 3, Informative

      --after Islamists told Wikileaks that they would be killed for hosting the film. Most users of Slashdot are intelligent enough to know the difference between Muslim and Islamist/Islamic Activist. However, the distinction is not as well understood among the general populations of both the Western and non-Western worlds. That's the sad part of it all. The resulting misconceptions about and misinterpretations of Islam are the cause of most of the violent and non-violent extremism shown by both sides.

      For those who care to know, the term Islamist, when used in such a context, is generally accepted to refer to religious activists. Most of these activists claim to be Muslims yet do not act according to the laws of Islam. Now you people out there could either help educate misguided Muslims and misinformed non-Muslims in this regard, or you could go on talking stuff about Islam that has nothing to do with the religion and cannot be found anywhere in its authenticated texts.

      -Yousuf
  9. Re:Wrong setup by FudRucker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    a daily text file (wikileaks-29-march-2008.txt) that is easily read on every platform/OS sent out as a bittorrent? like an electronic newspaper where everybody is the paperboy...

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  10. Huge Interest by garett_spencley · · Score: 2, Funny

    Those damned bankers will get you every time. You really have to go over your loan agreements and read all the fine print carefully.

    R.I.P Wikileaks :(

    May you pay off your debt and rise once again.

  11. Re:Not offline? by LordKaT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look, I'm all for keeping an eye out on Wikileaks. I think it serves a very important purpose in a time when a lot of governments - and their people - feel that the withholding of information is a good idea.

    But Wikileaks simply succumbed to an overwhelming demand of visitors. This news story is like saying "Look! People are actually reading shit about the Tibetan protests rather than trying to find out who Paris Hilton's new best friend is going to be! Oh my god!"

  12. Re:Not offline? by Daimanta · · Score: 2, Funny

    And on the same hour it gets back up again, people post a link in a /. article to the site. Way to go!

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  13. I know who it was... by blake1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tom Cruise is so pissed right now.. sitting at home with 100 IE windows open hitting Refresh All Tabs.

  14. Not offtopic by Cheesey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is exactly why Wikileaks was offline. The whole story is about Fitna. Basically, the Wikileaks admins got death threats and had to take the video offline, replacing it with an apology about having to put staff safety before freedom of speech. Later, the site might have been taken down by the increased traffic, but by that time Fitna was already on Google Video and Youtube, so it was way too late to stop people seeing it.

    I think the Slashdot editors might have been looking for a story about Fitna that doesn't explicitly mention Fitna in the summary, since they no doubt wish to avoid getting some death threats of their own.

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    1. Re:Not offtopic by Cheesey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Looks like I have also been confused by the difference between Liveleak (originally hosted the video, removed it after death threats) and Wikileaks (which ran out of bandwidth). D'oh.

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  15. Big news by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wikileaks is offline ... let's all go there to see if it is really offline :-|

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  16. Re:Spread the word. by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    or .. needs bittorrent. Don't wikileaks host very large documents on their site? surely transferring that load to everyone else makes sense, not only because it reduces the load but also spreads the actual documents.

  17. Moved more than that after a slashdotting by DrHanser · · Score: 2, Informative

    Got slashdotted a few years ago when I was hosting Beethoven's symphonies that the BBC had made available for download.

    ~167GB in 5 hours. More here. The MRTG graphs are fun:

    The sheer volume of traffic in GB for wikileaks doesn't seem terribly surprising. Rather, I suspect it is the dynamic nature of the website that brought it down. Simple filehosting doesn't take much in terms of resources provided your pipe is fat enough. Dynamic content, OTOH, does. I suspect they'll need to tweak/implement a caching system to mitigate this problem going forward.

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  18. Re:Freenet? by FreenetFan · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is some ad-hoc mirroring of Wikileaks onto Freenet. Recently, images from the protests in Tibet, and the leaked documents from the Julius Baer bank were put there.

    According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileaks#Technology :
    "Wikileaks is based on several software packages, including MediaWiki, Freenet, Tor, and PGP."

    No-one involved with the Freenet project knows exactly how it uses Freenet; it certainly doesn't seem to be an official partnership.

    Freenet is ideally suited to this kind of thing: freesites (Freenet's equivalent of websites) are fairly quick to retrieve and tend to stay in the network long-term. And of course, creating and reading them is totally anonymous and uncensorable.

    There has been a lot of work done recently into making the Freenet installation process as easy as possible, and an official release of Freenet 0.7 is due in the next few weeks, so watch this space.

  19. Re:Conspiracy theorys by Ryukotsusei · · Score: 2, Interesting

    DDoS anyone?

  20. Pfft, Wikileaks by Hemogoblin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've completely lost confidence in Wikileak's ability to report anything accuractely, since they ran that terrible JP Morgan Chase Tax story. It was wrong on practically every important point, which was pointed out here on Slashdot by me and others. I figured, "Hey it's a wiki; I should fix the errors", but admin-abuse kept the original story locked. If they can be so horribly wrong on one topic, why should we trust them regarding anything else?

    1. Re:Pfft, Wikileaks by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What the hell? WikiLeaks reports NOTHING. They have no reporters. There is barely any fact-checking - as a matter of fact, due to the nature of the business (leaks of secret documents), it is damn near impossible to do any independent fact checking.

      WikiLeaks is awesome as it is - a place where anyone can put up any document, free of any fear that they might be tracked down. Why you think that that makes anything true on there, I have no idea. Seriously. Were you born just yesterday?

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  21. Re:Spread the word. by Rich0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah - it would be nice if somebody created a server-oriented bittorrent distribution system.

    The website would post a torrent, and would also seed the torrent. If nobody else seeded it then the website would end up uploading the file to anybody who asked for it - which is no worse than what they'd otherwise end up doing. However, as soon as more than one person starts downloading at the same time you get automatic load-distribution, and if anybody sticks around and seeds then you get even more bandwidth.

    All you need is a decent daemon that will take a file and create a torrent and track it and seed it, and restore all this stuff anytime the daemon is restarted. I can't find anything that does exactly that...

  22. Re:Spread the word. by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps there is an ethical concern regarding the fact that if you distribute via a torrent then the downloaders also become distributors of the content.

    With the kind of material involved it could open up the "distributors" to repercussions in their home countries much more serious than those regarding copyright infringement; e.g. repercussions involving imprisonment, harassment, just being added to the wrong list, or even death in some places for treason.

  23. Re:Conspiracy theorys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, no, you're all wrong.

    Notice that wikileaks is up right now? Wikileaks hasn't even gone down yet. Taco is attempting to ddos the wikileaks servers by conjuring up the ./ effect.

    It's obvious that he's being pressured by the CIA to bring down the servers in order to stop the proliferation of leaked patent documents concerning the atomic bomb.

  24. "Interest"? by Arancaytar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are almost as many people who don't want Wikileaks online as people who want to see it - and the former are vastly more powerful.

    Surely the possibility that this is an attack rather than "interest" has crossed some people's minds? And if there is strong evidence that it isn't, why the hell isn't that evidence in the summary?