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Cisco, Troll Tracker Blogger Sued For Defamation

Joe Mullin writes "We've discussed Troll Tracker here before — the anonymous blogger who was outed last month as Rick Frenkel, a Cisco lawyer. Since then, two lawyers from the notoriously patent-friendly Eastern District of Texas have filed defamation suits against Frenkel and Cisco, and Frenkel's blog has been shuttered. One of the plaintiffs, a renowned patent judge's son, may have been hunting the anonymous blogger for months. This week Cisco announced new blogging guidelines in response to the Troll Tracker fiasco. The company acknowledged that 'a few Cisco employees used poor judgment' during secret-blog-time, but they're largely standing by their man. Cisco's new rules will prohibit only anonymous blogging by employees about issues for which 'they have responsibilities at Cisco.'"

60 comments

  1. Good for Cisco. by inTheLoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A blog from a technical lawyer is just what the world needs. The only problem could be if the blogger was dealing with issues that concerned Cisco without listing his affiliation. Otherwise, Cisco should have been proud of their employee. It's good they are standing by him and hopefully they will trounce this groundless lawsuit.

    Now all they have to do is repudiate software patents and stop cooperating with China.

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    1. Re:Good for Cisco. by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes such a good thing, just what the world needs. And he's being sued. I can't for the life of me figure out how this sort of thing happens; it's in the CONSTITUTION for crying out loud that congress can't make laws restricting speech. And-- oh there's a law restricting speech. And another, and another. Makes me want to become a judge just so that I can mobilize the US marshals and incarcerate every single member of congress indefinitely for constitutional violations.

    2. Re:Good for Cisco. by YU5333021 · · Score: 1

      China? How about Banana Republic of East Texas (from TFA)? I wonder if placing "offer not valid in Texas" as part of UELA (or equivalent in web terms) would make one's work/publications protected from Spanish... err.... Texasish Inquisition. Corruption and/or cluelessness seems to be too thick over there to allow for such a tragic micromanagement of national economy.

    3. Re:Good for Cisco. by Original+Replica · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The only problem could be if the blogger was dealing with issues that concerned Cisco without listing his affiliation.

      IANAL, so I'll ask those of you who are, is there anyway that whistle blower laws could protect Frenkel? He might not need protection from his employer, but he need protection because of who his employer is. He was in a good position to spot and point out foul play and he did just that. Now he is facing retaliation for doing so, isn't that what whistleblower laws are meant to protect?

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    4. Re:Good for Cisco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why is this -1 mod parent up..

    5. Re:Good for Cisco. by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could you please clarify what exactly it is you think this situation has to do with congress?

      See, it's the Supreme Court that you should be worried about, and to do anything about that, you need to be President(and a little lucky):

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_defamation_law

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    6. Re:Good for Cisco. by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The Supreme Court can't make laws, they can only decide their constitutionality. They're wrong for not striking down libel laws, but Congress is the one at fault (for once). Yes I say for once.. people on slashdot seem to love the courts, keeping insane laws mostly in check.. how about this quote from McCarthyism:

      Eleven leaders of the Communist Party were charged and convicted under the Smith Act in 1949. Ten defendants were given sentences of five years and the eleventh was sentenced to three years. All of the defense attorneys were cited for contempt of court and were also given prison sentences.
      By far the most disgusting period in American history.. courts making up their own laws and charging people with contempt of court as a way to enforce them. People actually panicked about water florination! "Campaigners asserted that it was part of an international Jewish, Roman Catholic or psychiatric conspiracy intended to establish United Nations-run concentration camps in the United States." Anyway, a bit off-topic.
    7. Re:Good for Cisco. by plasmacutter · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I dont know.

      I say sentencing 10 people to prison unjustly is better than sentencing 300 million plus to an illegitimate president for 4 years.

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    8. Re:Good for Cisco. by JAlexoi · · Score: 1

      To rephrase you: Only capitalist presidents are legitimate.
      Nice PoV...

    9. Re:Good for Cisco. by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The 1st Amendment was not intended to, and did not, eliminate the tort of libel.

    10. Re:Good for Cisco. by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
      Sounds pretty specific to me.
    11. Re:Good for Cisco. by Crazy_CorranH · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And how does libel infringe on free speech? Sure it provides consequences for some things you may choose to say, but you can still say them.

    12. Re:Good for Cisco. by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

      What makes you think libel laws abridge freedom of speech? And even if they did, what makes you think a restriction on Congressional legislative power would affect State libel law?

    13. Re:Good for Cisco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However with the ever decreasing cost of publication, it should be considered for elimination at least for the new media, and everything just covered under slander. Since that's how things are going these days, kids post blogs with no more regard than if they were talking at a coffee shop to there friends.

    14. Re:Good for Cisco. by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You've reiterated that you think congress is at fault. You have yet to state why you think so.

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    15. Re:Good for Cisco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 1st Amendment was not intended to, and did not, eliminate the tort of libel.

      Then it's written incredibly poorly. It says "Congress shall make NO law". It does not say "Congress shall try to avoid laws, except in these circumstances..."

      The real problem is that when everybody agrees that it doesn't really mean that, what it actually means isn't actually written down anywhere in black and white, it's defined by many, many rulings and the whims of whatever judges you happen to get. Basically with the consequence that nobody really knows whether what they are saying is protected or not until they get sued/prosecuted and win or lose.

    16. Re:Good for Cisco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure it provides consequences for some things you may choose to say, but you can still say them.

      Let's execute everybody who disagrees with George Bush. Sure, there are consequences for disagreeing with the president, but you can still disagree.

    17. Re:Good for Cisco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And even if they did, what makes you think a restriction on Congressional legislative power would affect State libel law?

      The 14th Amendment extends the applicability of the 1st Amendment to the states.

  2. Big hand for Troll Tracker by pieterh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This guy stood up to the patent mafia and told what was happening. The system is corrupt. It does not promote innovation. It promotes lawsuits and settlements, and the lawyers get richer.

    Troll Tracker did a public service by documenting these scum. We need to know.

    Cisco are doing good by supporting him. Thanks.

    1. Re:Big hand for Troll Tracker by Naughty+Bob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The system is corrupt.
      What surprises me most in all of this is that it's mostly a father-son team who have made the Eastern district of Texas such a judicial laughing stock when it comes to patents.

      According to one of the links in the summary, the plaintiffs are usually represented by lawyer T. John "Johnny" Ward, Jr., and the cases are heard by his dad, Judge T. John Ward.

      This reminds me of a bad Dukes of Hazard storyline.
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    2. Re:Big hand for Troll Tracker by jambarama · · Score: 1

      This situation tells you something about free speech as well. Many people claim we can lock down the internet and preserve free speech by eliminating anonymous free speech. This is as good evidence as we're likely to find: without anonymity there can be no free speech. If this guy wasn't a well-paid (presumably) lawyer, he'd have a devil of a time fighting this absurd claim. He may still have a devil of a time. Win or lose, the consequences are clear: the blog is closed, Frenkel's free speech ended, and patent litigation information just got a lot more disparate. And now anyone blogging about patent trolls know what they might be exposed to. Watch out NY County Lawyer.

    3. Re:Big hand for Troll Tracker by Original+Replica · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How is it that the judge is not forced to step down after willingly trying cases where he has such an obvious conflict of interest?

      Something about Texan father/son combinations that just makes America turn to shit.

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    4. Re:Big hand for Troll Tracker by witherstaff · · Score: 1

      What surprises me most in all of this is that it's mostly a father-son team who have made the Eastern district of Texas such a ... laughing stock. Don't all father son political teams from Texas end up being a laughstock?
  3. personally ... by josepha48 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think that any company that has patent and is not implementing them, or selling them or letting other use them for a fee ( or free ) within 2 years of the issuance of the patent, should loose their patent and it should become public domain. This would prevent people from being patent trolls. Basically use it or loose it, and using it to prevent people from implementing it or suing people who implement it does not count as using it.

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    1. Re:personally ... by klapaucjusz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that any company that has patent and is not implementing them [...] should loose their patent

      Patents should not be awarded to companies, only to individuals.

      Historically, patent letters have been invented for a reason: to avoid a master craftsman carrying his trade secrets into the grave. The deal is simple: you get a monopoly on an invention until your death, and society as a whole benefits once you're no more. Simple, clean model.

      Awarding patents to companies is a subversion of this model, and is the source of all of our troubles.

    2. Re:personally ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in this case, the word you want is "lose"

      "loose" is the opposite of tight

    3. Re:personally ... by moreati · · Score: 1

      I like your idea, but unless the requirement was very carefully phrased I'm sure they would find a way to license every patent to some holding company for $1.

    4. Re:personally ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That really annoys me too. Seriously, "loose" rhymes with "goose" and "moose". "lose" rhymes with "shoes" and "ooze". So they're not spelked the same , they're not pronounced the same, and they mean different things. How the hell do people mix them up? Are there dialects/accents of English where "shoes" rhymes with "goose"? That's just dumb. Or do I mean "doom"? No I mean "dumb", because that's a different fucking word to "doom". Gah!

    5. Re:personally ... by Shados · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then someone with a large patent folio to their name would start fearing for their lives... And if many individuals worked on something, how does it work? Its in the name of all the individuals and when they all die its free? What if a company invests 5 billion in some technology's research, put the patent in someone's name, and that person gets a heart attack?

      Yeah, I see absolutely no problem with that.

    6. Re:personally ... by Raenex · · Score: 1

      How the hell do people mix them up? "choose"
    7. Re:personally ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rhymes with "juice" and "deuce", not "shoes", in my accent anyway.

    8. Re:personally ... by PWNT · · Score: 1

      on death the patent goes to the public domain, duh, problem solved.

    9. Re:personally ... by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      on death the patent goes to the public domain, duh, problem solved. How does that solve the problem?
      Say your biggest competitor has been granted some hugely valuable patent that it's using to knock you clean out of the market. It's lead engineer is the one who "owns" the patent, and if he dies, it goes into the public domain. And your company is rescued.

      See?

      Patents are all about saying "only we can do this". There will be always be competitors wanting to open the doors. Generally not enough to kill someone, but....

      I'd also ask how you manage it when a company spends millions in R&D with dozens or hundreds of engineers to come up with their core set of patents. Do you have *one* guy who takes all those patents? What happens when he retires, or wants to go work for someone else?
    10. Re:personally ... by xeoron · · Score: 2, Informative

      One of the problems of this is that legally companies are considered a person. Go watch the free documentary The Corporation, then perhaps you can start to plan ways around this distorting the governments view between a person and a "person."

    11. Re:personally ... by klapaucjusz · · Score: 1

      Patents are all about saying "only we can do this".

      Says who?

      Patents are about making sure that good inventions are disclosed before their inventor dies.

      Patents as a business model -- the view that you take -- is a distortion of the patent system, and, as I mentioned before, the source of all of our troubles.

    12. Re:personally ... by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      Patents are all about saying "only we can do this".
      Says who?

      Patents are about making sure that good inventions are disclosed before their inventor dies. True, that's the other side of the coin, and the intended public gain from offering the temporary monopoly incentive.

      Patents as a business model -- the view that you take -- is a distortion of the patent system, and, as I mentioned before, the source of all of our troubles. It's not a distortion -- it's the other side of the exchange. Both are essential, no?

      If you remove the incentive, then companies simply won't register patents -- instead we'll just have jealously-guarded trade secrets, and that intellectual property will likely never see the light of day.

      So we shouldn't ignore the exchange aspect (which is what makes it a powerful idea in the first place), but it's a good point to remember the public benefit side (in particular, many software patents are not protecting technology breakthroughs -- just rehashed combinations and variants of existing ideas... so the public gains nothing when the patent expires, and the government has granted a very valuable monopoly with no return whatsoever).
    13. Re:personally ... by portentum · · Score: 0

      You have a funny accent. Or maybe I do. I don't know, either way, someone here does.

    14. Re:personally ... by gr8scot · · Score: 1

      Patents as a business model -- the view that you take -- is a distortion of the patent system, and, as I mentioned before, the source of all of our troubles. It's not a distortion -- it's the other side of the exchange. Both are essential, no? No. Protecting the inventors' rights to exclusive control over our inventions is the "price" of retaining inventions for posterity, after the inventors' deaths. Without patents, all inventions would be protected as trade secrets, and posterity would have less benefit. But the "less benefit" is horribly exaggerated by corporate interests who prefer stifling innovation because, frankly, they aren't very competent. CxOs and board members of technology companies, who don't know stink about science or any type of engineering, nevertheless manage to affect the amount of benefit that scientists provide to society -- to decrease it -- via collectivism, which allows them to claim ownership over the intellectual work of scientists, directly contrary to the intent declared in the Constitution. Inventions are examples of "innovation," only if they are produced. If not, they are only detailed daydreams. The wealthy sponsors of collectivist systems such as corporatism are by and large wealthy by birth, not by merit, and never bothered to learn any craft but the exchange of favors, thus the ridiculous number of lawyers in the US covering their asses, while the scientifically and mathematically literate inventors are disproportionately foreign-born. Sitting on patents instead of producing the inventions described therein helps sustain the myth of an innovation shortage, which William Gates III loves to whine to Congress about instead of offering programming classes to US-born aspiring programmers [He wouldn't be competent to teach them, anyway, but he should at least make some effort before asking for international laws to be changed for his personal convenience! No, donations of crappy Windows-infested computers to grade schools does not count.].

      The ratio of the largest incomes on Earth to the median income is much more a measure of the disparity of legal preferences to wealth than of any disparity in talent, knowledge, diligence, or creativity. I estimate this presently has more to do with purchased statutes than with bribing or blackmailing of judges and jurors, but any sustained progress would likely shift the focus of corrupt activities. To sum up, I agree with the /.er who disagrees with you; these problems are symptoms of corruption, specifically corporatism, and not inherent in patents as a concept.
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    15. Re:personally ... by gr8scot · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. That's why I agree also with taking individual rights away from corporations, including ownership, including of patents. No inventor will have much incentive to invent something but not produce it, except inventions that are novel and non-obvious but not very useful. On the contrary, as long as collective ownership is allowed, there is a great deal of incentive on the part of the largest corporations [their lawyers, really; as they're not really people, corporations have no self-interests] to transfer legal recognition of ownership of intellectual achievement to themselves, in order to stall truly substantive innovations, in favor of maintaining their monopoly, duopoly and oligopoly statuses. The motive, of course, is their own lack intellectual lack. Thus, we see the technology available to improve our lives fairly stagnant, while the number of patents skyrockets. By the way, I expect an enormous onslaught of frivolity on the behalf of the wealthiest ~500 persons on Earth, between today and November. The more powers are unearned, the more viciously they're defended, apparently.

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    16. Re:personally ... by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      No. Protecting the inventors' rights to exclusive control over our inventions is the "price" of retaining inventions for posterity, after the inventors' deaths. Without patents, all inventions would be protected as trade secrets, and posterity would have less benefit. You say "No", but then you say exactly what I was saying? Seriously, here's how I phrased it in the post you're responding to: "If you remove the incentive, then companies simply won't register patents -- instead we'll just have jealously-guarded trade secrets, and that intellectual property will likely never see the light of day."

      But the "less benefit" is horribly exaggerated by corporate interests who prefer stifling innovation because, frankly, they aren't very competent Right, and here's the example I gave of that (again, in the post you're replying to: "many software patents are not protecting technology breakthroughs -- just rehashed combinations and variants of existing ideas... so the public gains nothing when the patent expires, and the government has granted a very valuable monopoly with no return whatsoever"

      Then you go on to talk about the tricks the corporations pull to abuse the patent system, which I also agree with, though we weren't discussing that earlier.

      To sum up, I agree with the /.er who disagrees with you; these problems are symptoms of corruption, specifically corporatism, and not inherent in patents as a concept. Where were they saying that? It sounds more like you're agreeing with me (in the post you're replying to), that the patent system is based on a trade -- which is a necessary element, but the current state of the system needs help in all of these cases where the public interest side of the trade is being sacrificed.
    17. Re:personally ... by memnock · · Score: 1

      Patents should not be awarded to companies, only to individuals.


      or company charters shouldn't be written to allow companies to exist indefinitely.
  4. Why is this -1. Mod parent up. by plasmacutter · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    There is no "-1 'I disagree'" option for a reason. Remove this poster's gag please.

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  5. Cisco is handling this issue better then most by colinmcnamara · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One thing that is important to point out, is that Cisco is treating Rick Frenkel extremely well. They aren't firing him, restricting him from blogging, or taking other knee jerk reactions. What they are doing is requiring that a Cisco employee put boiler plate on their sites.

    Cisco itself has been trying to embrace web2.0 collaboration for a couple years now. In some instances like http://blogs.cisco.com/home/ they do really well, providing a conduit for actual engineers to comment on technology and the companies products. In other instances like second life, they have gone completely off target and missed the whole point (my personal rant, second life is NOT web2.0). The important thing to focus on, is that Cisco is consistently trying to encourage open communications of its employees with the general public, and should be apploauded for their attempts.

    Disclaimer - I am NOT a Cisco employee, and these are my OPINIONS.

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    1. Re:Cisco is handling this issue better then most by rtb61 · · Score: 1
      One thing to bear in mind in the employee, employer relationship. The employee is only an employee during defined working hours, the rest of the time the individual, is there own person. Something that should be clarified under law. So blogging during working hours is tied back to the company but blogging after hours is not.

      This is the only thing an employer should clarify, beyond that, there is only the relationship between Cisco and it's customers, an employer might have some concerns over as it would be privileged information gained via that paid employment.

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    2. Re:Cisco is handling this issue better then most by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      One thing that is important to point out, is that Cisco is treating Rick Frenkel extremely well. They aren't firing him, restricting him from blogging, or taking other knee jerk reactions. What they are doing is requiring that a Cisco employee put boiler plate on their sites. Hmmm. I guess I better see what this means for the rest of us.

      I consider Cisco a pretty good place to work at and I'm most happy that they're sticking with this guy.

      Disclaimer: I am not a Cisco employee, though I am under contract with them.
  6. What can we do? by bendodge · · Score: 1

    So who do we spam with nasty letters? Physical addresses work best, but email is good too.

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  7. Plaintiff is Judge's Son by jellie · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Several other articles about the story are at law.com, including this one. For those who haven't read the articles: One of the plaintiffs is the son of Judge T. John Ward, who sits in the Eastern District Court of Texas. The case is assigned to U.S. District Judge David Folsom. Folsom is quoted as saying:

    "I have a Cisco case [ESN v. Cisco] pending in my court, and Johnny Ward's son is representing one of the parties, so I probably shouldn't say anything, but it won't influence my outlook on matters a bit." I don't know, but it sounds a little too "chummy." Can the case be moved to a more neutral district?

    The blog is not "shuttered" per se, but viewable by invitation only. Hopefully, Frenkel will continue to write, but it might be hard with the lawsuit.
    1. Re:Plaintiff is Judge's Son by Xenographic · · Score: 1

      > One of the plaintiffs is the son of Judge T. John Ward, who sits in the Eastern District Court of Texas. The case is assigned to U.S. District Judge David Folsom. Folsom is quoted as saying:

      You know, the legal standard for conflict of interest is NOT whether or not there's any actual impropriety. It's whether or not there's an appearance of impropriety. They'd better move those cases to another venue!

      IANAL, just a private citizen, but it would DEFINITELY appear improper to me otherwise.

  8. My Bad by jellie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oops, I didn't even read all the linked articles. Joe's last link says the two lawsuits have been moved to the Western District of Arkansas and the Eastern District of Texas, under different judges.

  9. Re:wow by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

    A guy's getting sued into oblivion by a group specifically formed to create and manage layers of patent-holding shell companies.. and the group's getting away with making tons of money hiding the true owners of patents and confusing the public because American patent law is so screwed. Care yet.

  10. IP introspection - go for the named inventors. by NZheretic · · Score: 1
    1) Find patent filing clients of Eric Albritton and T. John Ward, Jr;
    2) Get a list of patents applications filed by said clients;
    3) Find the numerous cases of clearly prior art for said patents ( it is inevitable that there will be );
    4) Directly contact ( escalating though email,fax,phone,registered letter ) the inventors of each prior art'ed patent until you get a response. Make sure to CC their business,the USPTO and of course Albritton and Ward;
    5) Publish the prior art and responses on a website.

    And maybe ...
    6) If it gets to a court case, deposition those same inventors to see if they were advised by Albritton, Ward or their partners to ignore those cases of prior art.

    When one applies for a patent, an oath is sworn. The penalty for falsehoods under that oath in theory - is currently 5 years imprisonment, or a fine, or both..
    If an inventor is informed of pre-existing prior art, then that Inventor should be under an obligation to inform the USPTO that they have been made aware of said prior art, or otherwise be effectively committing federal perjury.
    It would be interesting, to say the least, to find out what advice Albritton and Ward and Co would give these inventors.

  11. Lot of confusion here by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Informative

    It seems most of the commentators here have not looked at the filings in this case, or read the numerous articles about it on various legal blogs. It is not quite as is being reported here. The two lawyers who are suing him were representing the other side in a case against Cisco. On his blog, he accused them of altering the filing date on some court documents. That's a very serious accusation--if they did it, it would be both a breach of legal ethics and a felony.

    In general, it is very very bad for a lawyer to publicly accuse another lawyer of committing a felony unless the accuser has some pretty damned convincing evidence.

    And it is a zillion times worse when the accusing lawyer is counsel for the other side in a case the accused lawyer is working on.

    Troll Tracker screwed up big time here (heck, commenting AT ALL on a case involving Cisco is a bit shocking), and is probably going to have to cough up a public apology and a wad of cash. It's not about free speech, as some other posters have suggested--it is a plain, old-fashioned "if you accuse someone of a serious crime, you'd better be able to back it up" case.

    There's an informative post about the case here. That's a handy blog about activity in the Eastern District of Texas. There was also good coverage in Business Week.

    1. Re:Lot of confusion here by rossz · · Score: 1

      Or the texas lawyer thinks the good ol' boy network will kick in as usual. It doesn't matter if daddy is not hearing the case. No one even has to say a word about how things should go. It's one of those things that is assumed.

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  12. The truth is important, not who says it. by merc · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a repeat of a post that I made last time the subject of PTT came up, and I will reiterate it just because I think it's so vital and cuts to the heart of the matter at hand. Just because an attorney with a dog in this race is speaking his mind doesn't mean he's wrong. If we're supposed to take sides in this matter I hope we take the side of what is correct and beneficial for society.

    To regroup, this statement on PTT's blog that was so insightful and important that I must have read it three times. The commentor on PTT's blog REALLY made an impression on me, especially the parts about how little our law makers understand the issue at hand. All credit goes to the original commentator on the blog, who in my mind left an impression more indelible than PTT himself:

    [http://trolltracker.blogspot.com/2008/01/j-carl-cooper-and-technology-licensing.html]:

    "As a practicing patent attorney with a large corporation, I can see why PTT and other commentators might want not to divulge their name. His anonymity works for me, because the subject of our interest shouldn't be who PTT is, but rather whether the US patent system is functioning effectively and fairly. And PTT's remarks on patent predators aren't any less germane because the sharks are identified by name, and he/she isn't. Forget that it's Niro (or Acacia, or whoever) that PTT comments on, and focus on the fact that they and others are manipulating an imperfect system to the detriment of both the system and its participants.

    BTW, there are those who might defend the abuses written of here as nothing more than "arbitrage". I don't agree. Arbitrage smooths out market irregularities caused by assymetrical information or unbalanced supply and demand. It is ethical, and even helpful, where a market is efficient and the market rules are clear and fairly enforced. The swamp of legal, political, technical and economic uncertainties that trolls are rooting around in (and helping muddy up) is more like an armed prospectors' land-grab than what the patent system set out to be: A reward of exclusivity in return for the useful sharing of information. Vigorous enforcement of patents on trivial or useless "inventions", by contingency-fee opportunists, doesn't make them any less trivial and useless. And bundling or accumulating them under shell corporations, the better to leverage them against companies for whom the expected value of a loss at trial (however unlikely) exceeds the price of a settlement, does nothing to better the "market" for IP. It doesn't promote adoption or commercialisation of technology. It doesn't raise capital in support of yet more innovation. It doesn't improve the function of the patent system. It's extortion, pure and simple.

    This isn't an abstract, theoretical discussion. It won't be long before Congress, made up of individuals who understand neither the purpose nor the functioning of the US patent system, begins to tinker with it as if it were a tax code with which additional revenues could be extracted and assets could be more equitably redistributed. Trolls cheapen the patent system in a way that makes legislative erosion even more likely. The abuses PTT writes about call the patent monopoly and its proponents into disrepute, and thereby weaken the rights appropriately reserved under other patents to those who really have made a technical contribution to society. As far as I'm concerned, PTT can call the trolls by name. The moneys they've extracted from productive members of society should be enough consolation for them.

    Blog on, PTT!
    "

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  13. Sockpuppet of twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How are you?

  14. How can a Troll by Z00L00K · · Score: 1
    sue one for defamation? A Troll needs to be infamous, otherwise it is no Troll...

    The whole patent business is just getting more and more sour...

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    If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  15. Such a shallow understanding of the Constitution by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

    You are free to say what you want, and you are also free to accept the consequences of your speech.

  16. Link to archive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone have a link to an archive?
    It seems to be invite only now, and the wayback machine has nothing...

  17. WRONG! by Xenographic · · Score: 2

    > On his blog, he accused them of altering the filing date on some court documents. That's a very serious accusation--if they did it, it would be both a breach of legal ethics and a felony.

    No he did not!

    I *READ* that blog entry, back when it was available. What happened is that they filed the lawsuit a day before their patent issued, he laughed a little at it, and they refiled. So far as I know, the Patent Troll Tracker never claimed that they "altered" anything (like I said, they withdrew and refiled a day later, IIRC), let alone that they committed some kind of felony! In fact, the entire, crazy legal exercise was nothing more than two people fighting, one to avoid Marshall, Texas as a venue (home of the Patent Troll), and the other wanting a sensible venue.

    Now, I don't know what you read (most likely the complaint), but it does not match my memory. Heck, this story was submitted weeks ago, but I guess they forgot to run it until now.