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NYC Lawyers Subpoena Code

RonMcMahon writes "Lawyers for the city of New York have subpoenaed the text message records of thousands of people involved in demonstrations at the 2004 Republican National Convention. Tad Hirsch, creator of the TXTmob code that enabled convention demonstrators to transmit messages to thousands of telephones, has been instructed to release the content of messages exchanged on the service and to identify people who sent and received messages. Hirsch argues that release of such information would be a violation of users' First Amendment and privacy rights. 'I think I have a moral responsibility to the people who use my service to protect their privacy,' said Hirsch."

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  1. LEARN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They cannot subpoena logs that you don't keep.

  2. Glad it's not Sony or Microsoft or some other corp by electrictroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this was a corporation (which has no soul or moral code), the content of the messages would already be in NYC's lawyers' hands.

    Fortunately in this case, it's a man who believes in human rights.

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  3. Re:Subpoena? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 5, Informative

    But that's not really what is being requested. As often happens, the slash headline doesn't represent the slash article. Neither appears to represent what's said in the real article. The code wasn't subponaed, the author was. What they are looking for are lists of texters and the text contents.

  4. Anonymous political speech by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anonymous political speech has a long tradition in the US. Many of our founding fathers hid behind pseudonyms while writing many of what are termed 'The Federalist Papers' which laid much of the groundwork for the US Constitution.

    If the messages were inciting people to break the law I could possibly understand, but on the face of what few facts I have on the subject right now my knee wants to jerk right into the Government's jaw a few times.

    1. Re:Anonymous political speech by timmarhy · · Score: 4, Informative
      even telling people to break the law shouldn't be illegal though, because some laws are unjust and NEED to be challenged, and that kind of freedom to challenge authority needs to be encouraged.

      frankly i grow tired of being snooped on

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    2. Re:Anonymous political speech by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're correct to a point. I should have clarified as 'inciting to violence' rather than inciting to break the law. Civil disobedience is a good thing. For that matter, there sometimes comes a point where violent revolution is a good thing as well (prior art: The American Revolution).

      I am basically of the mind that you just have to follow the course of the three boxes. Soap Box, then Ballot Box, then Ammo Box. I also hope and pray that the latter option is never really required. I would far prefer a political revolution to an armed one.

  5. Re:Yahoo by Yvanhoe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't click this link, it is malicious.

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  6. T'was ever thus by hyades1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time you surrender your rights to the state in return for assurances that a) people who might be breaking some minor law like jaywalking have nothing to worry about and b) the new powers will be used only against the really, really bad people, should sit up and take notice. This is exactly the kind of thing you can expect.

    How many people who want to exercise their legal right to protest will sit home next time because their career ambitions include jobs where even being on the same street as a protest could knock them off the hiring list?

    It's always best to assume governments and police forces are led by lying, treacherous fascists. You will occasionally be pleasantly surprised to find that it's not the case. More often, you'll find out that power-tripping assholes are attracted to those jobs the same way child molesters are attracted to schoolgrounds and bank robbers are attracted to banks.

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  7. Why does he have the data? by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The data cannot be subpoena'd if it does not exist. Why does his system keep records of who said what to whom? And if it needs the records, why doesn't it delete them after a short period? And if the system does keep an archive, why didn't he delete it manually before now, if people's privacy is so important?

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    1. Re:Why does he have the data? by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm far from being an expert in TXTMob but it appears that it relies on user-defined mailing lists to send and receive text messages. That's probably what the NYC lawyers are looking for.

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  8. Re:Messages are ephemeral by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    You don't know me. Sure I do. You're BadAnalogyGuy.

    You don't know whether it is really me writing this or someone pretending to be me. Mmmm...it's you. Just a guess though.

    You don't know how many "me"s there are behind this nickname. 42?

    You don't know how many other accounts I have that pretend to be someone besides me. 6

    Which me is the real me? You!

    Which you is the real you? Me!

    Which way to Kathmandu? That way! ===>

    Would you, could you in a car? From afar? Or with a jar?

    Eat them, eat them! Here they are. Mmmmmm...burgers from a bar?

  9. 2004 Republican National Convention in NYC by myspace-cn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For those who have forgotten (or never heard about) the whole unconstitutional ordeal.
    http://www.2600.com/rnc2004/index.html

    Down with Amurkan fascists! And their plastic orange fences.
    We have all gone to look for America.