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Verizon Reveals Plans For "C Block" Airwaves

eldavojohn writes "Now that Verizon has beaten Google in the 'block C' spectrum auction, what are they going to do with it? Well, as of today they've revealed their plans for world domination: they plan to speed up wireless internet connections. It may come as no surprise that they'll also be making this available for other manufacturer's devices. AT&T plans to do the same with their auction winnings, 'AT&T was second to Verizon, winning $6 billion in spectrum licenses, which it also plans to use for high-speed Internet service. But its executives said they didn't bid for the portion subject to the open-access rules. The parts it did land cost AT&T nearly three times as much per unit of spectrum than the portion Verizon bought.'"

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  1. Radio spectrum to be used... by 26199 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...for wireless communication. News at 11!

    1. Re:Radio spectrum to be used... by Vectronic · · Score: 4, Funny

      lol... indeed, you should be modded to +5MHz and the topic closed.

    2. Re:Radio spectrum to be used... by Slashdot+Suxxors · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI, don't say picture and link to a PDF. It can be an unpleasant surprise.

    3. Re:Radio spectrum to be used... by kesuki · · Score: 2, Interesting

      actually the wiki says 22 MHZ and there are 13 channels with 2mhz apart from each other and many devices can produce interference.. (microwaves most notably, other 2.4 ghz stuff like phones etc s well)

      so they can't get the full 54 mbits because of interference.

      so if they were using the same technology and had less interference they would get roughly 150 mbit/second a far cry from the 500 mbit suggested by vague non specific wiki's on broadcast technologies.

      I'd think the 700-800 mhz bandwidth is significantly clearer than the widely used 2.4 ghz
      it was originally slotted as channels 52-69 UHF

      since there are no wireless b/g/a/n devices, no wireless(handset not cell) phones, no microwaves...

      Well, going back to square 1, with the video stream size, I said 24 gigabytes for good transcoded 1080p streams of 110 minutes, that suggests the 3mhz digital TV signal (1080i ) is squeezing 14.54 megabits /second or

        106 megabits per 22 mhz of bandwidth This is assuming that digital TV went from analog tv's 3.5 mhz per channel to an assumed 3 mhz per channel. the wiki CLEARLY states it's less.. the only other option is that they're using mpeg-4 technology.

      which would drop the file size roughly in half, to tada 53 mbit/second per 22 mhz of bandwidth.

      I'd say this means digital TV is all using mpeg-4 encoding. either that or TV channels are so clear due to FCC regs that they get double the bandwidth of a polluted 2.4 ghz frequency

  2. Why create the semblance of a fight? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Verizon has beaten Google

    Why create the semblance of a fight where one did not exist? All google really wanted was open air-waves.

    Verizon didn't beat google, Verizon played right into google's hand.

    1. Re:Why create the semblance of a fight? by Firehed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Perhaps - IANAL. But nobody forced the competition to outbid them, either. All parties knew the terms of the auction.

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  3. Re:Maybe it's time by kesuki · · Score: 4, Informative

    AT&T got it's C-block spectrum in a Buyout not at auction. At auction they won B-block spectrum...

    http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/3G/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207001878

    and they plan to roll out early 4G phones and towers before 4G standards are done and who knows what kind of problems that will expose in the new standards and technology.

  4. Re:Maybe it's time by CajunArson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not really fascinating so much as it is logical. Why pay more for something you won't have exclusive control over? The balance here is that Verizon has agreed to give up exclusivity, in exchange for not having to pay as much for the spectrum. As reported here earlier, Google was actually pushing up bids just to make the reserve price for the spectrum. Even though I think the bids were sealed, I'm pretty sure Verizon had a good clue that it was Google that was pushing up the bids on the C-band, and it would be in Verizon's interest for it to at least own the band even if it would not have exclusive control over devices on the band.

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  5. Great... now just upgrade your business model! by Doug52392 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wireless Internet on cell phones is completely useless right now. Sure, it would be a great convience to use the full Internet on your phone, but there is a huge problem here: phone companies are quick and eager to start these new services, but most customers are still on those dumb "1 cent per kb" deals! They are upgrading the technology, but not the business model.

    If Verizon, or any cell phone company for that matter want to ever succeed in making these services popular, they have to change their lame fees. 1 cent per kilobyte, or fees like that, were good back in the days of GPRS when all you had was a text based Internet on phones, but this simply won't do now that you can easily transfer over a dollar in kilobytes in 1 website!

    I don't even bother using the Internet or text messages on my older phone, waaaay to expensive!

    So if these companies want to ever hope to attract consumers to use the Internet services that would come out of this, they have to change their lame business model, or they will lose money.

  6. Re:How about raising the quality of voice calls? by davidphogan74 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It could be your phone as well. I have Verizon also and the call quality is excellent for me.

  7. Walled Internet, here we come ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Verizon (and all the other Telcos and ISPs) want us in C-Block all right. Right next to that big guy named "Bubba" with the twinkle in his eye.

    Seriously, I don't believe a word of what's coming out of Verizon's collective mouth. I really hope I'm wrong, but "open access" and "Telco" really don't belong in the same sentence.

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  8. Verizon picked up some A&B to go with the C bl by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What I thought was interesting is that in some big markets, Verizon purchased some A block or B block, and in some cases, both. That's in addition to their C block. They're clearly looking to make sure that they're going to have a lot of available bandwidth.

    NYC, Chicago, and LA, they ended up with A, B, and C block purchases. In some other large markets (Washington DC, Dallas, SanFran) they picked up either an A or a B in addition to their nationwide C block.

    So they're certainly thinking about capacity and customer density for their future networks.

    I kind of wonder, though, to what extent they've squeezed the amount of bandwidth that AT&T is going to have in those major cities. I don't have the details on their previous acquisitions to know for sure, but Verizon certainly took some potential capacity away from them.

  9. I can relate... by horati0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been c-blocked by many a young lady in an effort to gain open-access.

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  10. Google "played" the carriers? I don't think so. by clicktician · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Verizon and AT&T networks have always been open. They even brag about it. You can easily buy a handset from a variety of manufacturers and both Verizon and AT&T will hook you right up.

    The problem is when these carriers contract for their own custom handsets they lock these models to their own networks. That makes it hard to switch carriers without buying a new phone.

    The networks are open already. It's the products that use them which are not. So, what really did Google do? I don't know. Google has always had the freedom to build a handset that runs on either of these networks. So where is it?

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