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China Allows Access to English Wikipedia

LinuxLefty writes "Reuters is reporting that Chinese authorities have lifted the ban on the English version of Wikipedia. The Chinese version of the site is still blocked, as are English-language versions of politically sensitive topics such as Tibet and Tiananmen Square. 'The move comes after International Olympic Committee (IOC) inspectors told Beijing organisers that the Internet must be open for the duration of the 2008 Olympics and that blocking it "would reflect very poorly" on the host country. China's government, keen to avoid sparking social discontent, keeps a tight watch over the media and often blocks or censors popular Web sites and forums where dissent may brew.'"

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  1. Re:Boycott the Olympics by KDR_11k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh they look pretty capitalistic to me, that doesn't contradict the totalitarianism.

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  2. It's not happening. by gnutoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Westerners in the Olympic Village will see something very open and free but it's all a put on. The Atlantic had a good article about this not long ago. The great firewall of China is extensive and fine grained enough to block individual page views at random. It's enough to eliminate public discussion on many topics and it's enough to round up potential subversives. Information in China is not free because people in China are not free.

    1. Re:It's not happening. by coaxial · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Obligatory Karma Whoring: The Atlantic article.

      Not only is this a transparently empty gesture by the CPC, but I believe it has absolutely no downside for the CPC. It's English. The only people that are going to looking at it are foreigners and they're going to leave after two weeks. The indigenous population isn't going to bother, simply because they're much more focused on the simplified-chinese version. Also, don't discount how the population has been cowed into self censorship. No doubt thanks to Jingjing, Chacha, and the thousands of true believers. (There's ALWAYS true believers.)

      Honestly, I don't think the Chinese people want freedom and democracy. I think they're too busy making money and improving their lives. Don't rock the boat, we've got a good think going. Let it be. It's human nature. As Juvenal observed:

      Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man,
      the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time
      handed out military command, high civil office, legions - everything, now
      restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things:
      bread and circuses
  3. China Olympics by backslashdot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the Chinese government keeps up this bullshit, people are going to call for boycotts of companies that advertise during the olympics, and that will reduce their revenue (because it will diminish the value of advertsising during hte olympics).

    Even the Dalai Lama himself has firmly said that the Olympics should not be boycotted.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/18/2193461.htm

    He has the most to lose if China's government gets more powerful.

    I agree with him, I personally don't believe a boycott of the current olympics or advertisers is warranted in this case. The olympics is the one time every four years when athletes of all nations can come together. That serves more for global peace and understanding than petty quarreling, protests, and boycotts. Note, if there was serious shit going on I'll be the at the front of the protest line.

    We need China to open, isolating them further will not be helpful. It's better the Chinese (people not govt.) be exposed to how people of other cultures are and vice versa.

    1. Re:China Olympics by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      An evil man can occasionally speak the truth, even without holding the spirit of those words dear to his heart.

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    2. Re:China Olympics by Hannah+E.+Davis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hey, even Hitler was right from time to time. As insane and misguided as he may have been, he was occasionally insightful, and the Olympics of 1936 may well have helped to postpone hostilities.

      Besides, it would be awfully nice if the Olympics actually did stand for peace and understanding in this day and age -- the politicians barely even pretend anymore.

  4. IOC say internet must be open for the Olympics by badfish99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So: allow access to websites in a foreign language that most Chinese can't understand, for a period of - what - two weeks? And presumably keep a list of everyone who reads those websites? And then back to normal afterwards? Wow, the IOC is really helping to open up China to new ideas about freedom and democracy, isn't it?

  5. Yeah, but you already do. by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    America has exported large number of jobs to China. EU has started doing the same. That means that unless you live off this planet, that you are buying Chinese product. More importantly, you are supporting them, unless you are actively checking everything that you buy.

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    1. Re:Yeah, but you already do. by das_magpie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Believe me, I do.

      I have real problems buying ANYTHING with the famous and hopeless 'Made in China' label attached to it.

      I spend extra time to seek out products made in the West.

      Its my own stupid fault if I actually pay for a product thats made in China and expect it to work and last.

      I even try to find western made electronic components if I can, German stuff I find superior and it is plentiful in certain fields.

      Its getting frustrating here in Australia with quality tools, brands like Stanley and Makita have begun to sell out even more and it is becoming increasingly difficult to find tools that are made in the west, for some that might not sound like a problem but for me I frequently use drills etc and to have them pike out constantly is expensive and its a major waste of materials as they just end up in the bin constantly, poorly made products have a major impact on the environment, everything becomes so disposable its just ends up in a landfill.

      What scares these days though is food that is "Made in China" here in Australia supermarkets have created there own brands ie "Woolworth's Select" and If you read the back of the packets a huge amount of their product comes from China and surrounding countries, fair enough if my new cordless drill does not work properly but when my Fruit and Veg has problems, I have problems.

      I recommend trying to seek out quality products, most things I own now have been manufactured in the west I feel more relaxed going about my day to day activities knowing my chisels wont blunt or break whilst working on soft pine and my food is not going to contain MSG and my dogs toys aren't painted with toxic goo.

      Lately NOTHING I have purchased in China has been good quality and lasted and I always end up regretting buying the product and feel guilty and ripped off when it ends up in a landfill after a week of use.

      Off topic I know but I thought it was an important point to make.

  6. Re:bad idea by LingNoi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They don't understand because the Chinese people are ignorant. They reject all contradications because they've been taught from birth that "this is the truth". Just like how a christian would reject evolution if they had be taught from birth that the earth is 6000 years old, they are no different.

    You can't understand nonsense.

  7. Re:True story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whereas Millions of American adults have no idea that around 1 million Iraqis are lying dead for large international corporations to profit. Tieneman square? 7000 Deaths according to NATO (One of the higher estimates).That they are living in "The Land of the Free" Despite having no large party representing anything other than fascist interests, having no independant press, infact the only right they have, is to sue anyone for anything essentially.

  8. Olympic wristed threats by Cathoderoytube · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "inspectors told Beijing organisers that the Internet must be open for the duration of the 2008 Olympics and that blocking it "would reflect very poorly" on the host country"

    Good to know the Olympic committee is all for standing up for human rights provided they're in town, and they're being paid lots of money, and those human rights only apply to people who are used to such freedoms in the first place. But seriously, if the Olympic committee gave a flying fuck about human rights they wouldn't have chosen China to host the Olympics.

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  9. Re:Freedom is NOT coming to China by electronixtar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You don't know shit about what's like in China 40 years ago.

  10. Re:Wikipedia is still blocked in Guangzhou, China by hayagriva · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just opened it now, in Beijing. Seems to be working fine. But of course, the Tiananmen Square Protest page is blocked, still. That's the keyword filter, still chugging along as usual.

  11. Re:Some feeling as a Chinese by Kopiok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While it may make internet users in China more skillful at getting around website blocks, it's not exactly a good thing that you need that skill in the first place. By creating the Great Firewall, they are blocking all inexperienced internet users from accessing this damning information. I assume in China that the vast majority of people are inexperienced internet users (same in the States too. :/). They are controlling the flow of this information to control the actions of their people, and it's causing more harm to Human Rights than it is helping computer literate Chinese to become inventive. You seem to have twisted this horrible violation of the freedom of peoples into a good thing by saying "at least some people know how to get around a firewall now!". Not exactly comparable subjects.