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Apple Error Leaves iPhone Developers In the Lurch

canadacow writes "iPhone developers enrolled and active in the iPhone OS 2.0 beta program got a nasty surprise today when Apple inadvertently 'expired' the recently released version. While for a beta program this typically would not be an issue, Apple has yet to release a new deployment of the iPhone OS. So developers like myself who use their iPhone for both actual phone and iPod use are bricked. Of note, this particular expired build is just 11 days old."

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  1. In Apple's defense by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They tried to call you and apologize but you didn't answer your phone.

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    1. Re:In Apple's defense by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you missed the part where these are people choosing to explicitly install beta development software on their mobile phone. If want to be sure your phone will work, either don't install early beta software on it, or buy a second phone.

    2. Re:In Apple's defense by His+Shadow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Jesus. Drama Queen much? A piece of beta software exploded. It will be fixed in days if not hours. It's probably fixed by the time you posted your whiny rant. So dry your tears, Princess, and turn down the hyperbole a little.

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    3. Re:In Apple's defense by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I mean seriously, how many times has this phone been bricked lately? 0, if you're a regular customer who uses the device as intended. No one should be surprised to find problems when signing up for a beta program.
    4. Re:In Apple's defense by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apple screwed up here, but "It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic" might be overstating it a bit.

      Come on, this is Apple. They practically have a 100% market penetration among emo kids. *Everything* is tragic to them.

    5. Re:In Apple's defense by Sentry21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What is it with the overuse of the term 'bricked' lately? These phones are NOT bricked. They are not usable as phones right now, but they can be easily fixed by restoring older firmware, or installing newer firmware. There's even a way to keep using the current firmware without the PSOD.

      So, ignoring the fact that you can only 'brick' a device once (after which point is is worthless anyway), anyone who installs as-yet-unreleased beta firmware on their phone should be fully aware that something unpleasant could well happen. If this were foolproof, Apple would have shipped out the new firmware to *everyone*.

      To mix some metaphors, if you want to play with the big boys, you're going to get burned.

    6. Re:In Apple's defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      your dumb sigh...
  2. I have an idea! by anss123 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's complain about BETA software!

    1. Re:I have an idea! by th1nk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let's read stories we're not interested in and complain about them!

    2. Re:I have an idea! by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's an even better idea. Let's complain about developers who use beta software for their primary mobile phone!

  3. You forgot to mention by anotherone · · Score: 5, Informative
    You forgot to mention that Apple SPECIFICALLY told you NOT to put it on your phone because it was unstable- and you hacked the lockouts and did it anyway. You also didn't mention that you could simply do a restore in iTunes and get a working firmware in about 2 minutes.

    But, I guess that getting on the front page of slashdot is more important.

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    1. Re:You forgot to mention by cowscows · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wah wah wah! Apple released this fancy new phone but there's no SDK and nobody can develop apps for it, this sucks, Apple sucks, everyone sucks!

      *Apple releases beta SDK*

      Wah wah wah! Apple released an inital version of an SDK for their fancy new phone and it isn't perfect and doesn't do everything we ever wanted, this sucks, Apple sucks!

      All some people do is complain. Even when someone listens to what you're asking for, and tries to meet your needs. Even when they're just starting out and testing the waters in an area that is very complex. Apple released what they had because obnoxious people wouldn't shut up about how much Apple sucked for not releasing anything.

      It'll get better. Half-finished software is the price the world pays for being whiny and impatient.

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  4. Bricked? by Kindgott · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is anyone else getting tired of the sensationalist misuse of the term "bricked" around here?

    Unless it's nigh unrecoverable, your hardware isn't bricked.

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  5. Not Bricked by addikt10 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Bricked" is unrecoverable.
    "Bricked" is permanent.
    "Bricked" is having absolutely no way, ever, of interacting with the object in a manner that is inconsistent with interacting with a brick.

    This, on the other hand, will be fixed by tomorrow.

  6. Re:"Brick" by OrangeTide · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's only bricked if you cannot get it to work again without cracking it up and digging into some special programming connector or replacing some chips. That is, the device can serve no other purpose than to be a brick without highly technical intervention. The fact that you can update the software back to the non-expired non-beta version seems to be completely overlooked.

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  7. Re:"Brick" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The device functions enough that you can restore the original firmware, you know, the firmware that is stable and fully supported and not recommended for development use only.

  8. Uh....no..... by iMouse · · Score: 5, Informative

    Beta testers were notified by e-mail of the software expiration that night. A new copy was available immediately from the AppleSeed site.

    My phone is fine and probably a lot of other beta testers who have a clue have a working phone as well.

    Maybe people who beta test software should have a good understanding that it is a BETA test and Apple highly recommended that the BETA software not be installed on personal or business-related phones that need to have 100% accessibility and reliability.

    How many beta testers in this program understand how to use a web browser to go grab the new release? If you're gonna be a n00b about it, don't sign up to be a tester.

  9. Um, what are people smoking? by jerkychew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't get it - My "friend's" iphone expired at midnight but guess what, there was an email from the Apple beta program in my "friend's" email telling my "friend" to update their iPhone. Update, start using the phone again.

    This is just a sensationalist article using the Dvorak Method (TM) to get more hits.

  10. Re:You've been Steved! by Microlith · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, OpenMoko, the opensource alternative that is unavailable and doesn't even work.

    Oh it boots, but you can't make a phone call from in the UI. And while the command line dialer does work, no audio does. So you can call someone but not speak to or hear them.

    While I have every hope for OpenMoko, don't go flinging them as some open-source solution when it doesn't even do what it's supposed to.

  11. Re:You've been Steved! by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Funny


    Consider the open source alternative, OpenMoko No worries about some sudden "change in corporate direction" screwing you over.

    No worries about some sudden "phone call" either. :-D
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  12. It's HARD to brick... by RudeIota · · Score: 5, Informative
    The iPhone is hard to break... If you hose it through a firmware update or jailbreaking it - recovery mode works regardless.
    • * Turn your iPhone on
    • * While it is on, hold the lock (button on the top) and home (button on the lower front) buttons down.
    • * Continue holding both buttons until the screen goes black (just a few seconds after the apple logo appears)
    • * Let go of the top button. Continue holding the Home button for several seconds.
    • * Plug your iPhone into your computer. iTunes will detect your phone in 'Restore mode' Recover your phone using the latest firmware. If you want to use older firmware (1.1.4 works just fine with Ziphone, BTW), hold the shift key as you click on firmware update button and you can browse for a firmware file (You will have to download an older firmware manually to load onto your iPhone using this method).
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