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IBM Ships Fastest CPU on Earth

HockeyPuck writes "The 5-billion-instructions-per second Power6 processor from IBM would beat such rivals as the 3.73 gigahertz Pentium Extreme and the 2.4 gigahertz UltraSparc T2 from Sun. 'It's hard to make the average person understand just how fast this is,' said IBM Chief Technology Officer Bernard Meyerson, offering an example meant to explain his company's baby that still leaves the listener awed with the speediness of the two laggards. 'Hold your index finger out in front of your face,' Meyerson said in a telephone interview from IBM headquarters in New York. 'In less time than it would take a beam of light to travel from your knuckle to your fingertip, the new IBM chip would complete one task and start looking for the next, he said.'"

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  1. Worst analogy EVAR! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny
    What's a 'task'? If you think of a 'task' for a CPU to be an instruction, then any modern desktop or notebook CPU currently in production would meet Myerson's description:

    In less time than it would take a beam of light to travel from your knuckle to your fingertip, the new IBM chip would complete one task and start looking for the next, he said
    C'mon. That's horrible. Where's BadAnalogyGuy when you need him?

    1. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by ukatoton · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is it not obvious? Myerson is BadAnalogyGuy!

    2. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      He should have said "it's so fast it'll do an infinite loop in half a second".

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    3. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by ScriptedReplay · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think it's a neat calculation. We've all lost track of what fast actually means for a modern CPU.


      Yeah, it's a fast CPU. And it gets faster if you have smaller hands. Or if you watch your hands move by at close to the speed of light. Way cool.

      Should sell like crazy in Japan.
    4. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Funny

      "there probably isn't much difference between a knuckle and a wrist"

      Goatse Guy? Is that you?

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    5. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by joaommp · · Score: 5, Funny

      only Chuck Norris can reach the end of infinite loops. And he can do it twice.

      And then he roundhouse kicks you into oblivion.

    6. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Dalai Lama is fascinated by the analogy:

      http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/10/world/10lama-600.jpg

    7. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by Have+Blue · · Score: 5, Funny

      And then the fork bomb walks into the bar, and then the fork bomb walks into the bar, and then the fork bomb walks into the bar...

    8. Re:Worst analogy EVAR! by cababunga · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, if I throw my computer out of the window, I'll get more FLOPS? No, you won't. But you may get better performance if you throw all the windows out of your computer.
  2. Units of measurement by muellerr1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm glad they stopped measuring chip speed in Hertz and are now using the simpler metric fingertip-to-knuckle units.

    1. Re:Units of measurement by n3tcat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, it makes it much easier to explain why multicore processors work faster. Though I expect problems when explaining more than 5 cores per chip...

    2. Re:Units of measurement by plover · · Score: 5, Funny
      I thought this meant they were switching from bogomips to bogogips.

      But then I suppose some math genius is going to come along and claim we should be counting bogipigips because bogogips is just a marketing term.

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    3. Re:Units of measurement by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      I calculate a "fingertip-to-knuckle unit" to be 3.174 * 10^-4 football fields.

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    4. Re:Units of measurement by Gazzonyx · · Score: 5, Funny

      American or British football fields, man?! Be precise or we'll have another mibibyte(MiB) situation on our hands, for craps sake!

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    5. Re:Units of measurement by BJH · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, no no. You've got your units all mixed up.

      The correct question to ask there would be:

      "How many Libraries of Congress can I process in a fortnight with one hand?"

    6. Re:Units of measurement by TeknoHog · · Score: 5, Funny

      But then I suppose some math genius is going to come along and claim we should be counting bogipigips because bogogips is just a marketing term.

      Yeah, when bogopigs fly.

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    7. Re:Units of measurement by Curien · · Score: 5, Funny

      "How many Libraries of Congress can I process in a fortnight with one hand?"

      The LoC has pr0n?

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  3. Better analogy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Better analogy; He should've said;

    'Hold your index finger out in front of your face,' Meyerson said in a telephone interview from IBM headquarters in New York. 'Ha Haw! Now you look like a retard!
  4. Re:It's a ploy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't be silly.

    Apple doesn't care about marketing, they are only interested in making quality product.

  5. Average Person? by dreemernj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's hard to make the average person understand just how fast this is
    It's hard to make the average person understand that the CPU isn't the entire box under their desk. Don't even bother with trying to explain this. The average person doesn't want to know.
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  6. Re:It's a ploy by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The switch from PPC to Intel wasn't really about performance or pricing. It was about supply and logistics. Both the Motorola and IBM PPC chips were custom chips from their Power architecture as neither company sold CPUs for general consumer computers. IBM made chips mostly for workstations and servers (which were considerably more powerful and expensive).

    Like most manufacturers, Apple, IBM, and Motorola do not want to keep a large inventory of anything. So Apple would only order and project as much as they thought they needed. IBM and Motorola would allocate enough resources for Apple's forecasts. But the problem was Apple was selling Macs faster than they anticipated. So they would order more. Neither IBM or Motorola could keep up with the increased supply.

    Even if they ordered millions of chips a year, Apple was never going to be IBM's or Motorola's largest customer. They could not dedicate large amounts of resources for one custom product line of one customer when they had much larger customers (for IBM, their own workstation/server division. for Motorola, their electronics division). At most, Apple was their highest profile customer.

    From Apple's standpoint, they were tired of not getting enough CPUs. So if they switched to a stock Intel chip, their supply problems because more manageable. Because for Intel it wouldn't be a small customer ordering more of a specialized part; it would be a small customer order more of the stock part.

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  7. Re:Sour grapes or a real arguement by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually the whole article is utter bollocks. They talk about 5 billion instructions per second. But

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER6

    Each core has two integer units, two binary floating-point units, and a decimal floating-point unit, and is capable of two way SMT. The binary floating-point unit incorporates âoemany microarchitectures, logic, circuit, latch and integration techniques to achieve [a] 6-cycle, 13-FO4 pipeline,â according to a company paper.[6] Unlike the servers from IBM's competitors, the POWER6 has hardware support for decimal arithmetic and will include the first decimal floating-point unit integrated in silicon. More than 50 new floating point instructions handle the decimal math and conversions between binary and decimal.[7] This is a feature being added to the processors powering IBM's System z.[8] So it has a 5Ghz clock rate but can actually manage a bit more than 5 Bips peak. But

    A notable difference from POWER5 is that IBM moved from an out-of-order design to an in-order design, a drastic change which should require software recompilation for top performance. However, the processor still achieves significant performance improvements even with unmodified software, according to the lead engineer on the POWER6 project.[2] Hmmph. I'd bet it's got a really long pipeline to reach that clock speed.

    The POWER6 has approximately 790 million transistors and 341 mm large fabricated on an 65 nm process. It was released on the 8th June 2007, at speeds of 3.5 GHz, 4.2 GHz and 4.7 GHz[2], but the company has noted prototypes have reached 6 GHz.[3] POWER6 reached first silicon in the middle of 2005[4]. Wow it's huge, almost twice the size of a Core 2 Duo.

    I think IBM is doing taking the NetBurst approach - a long pipeline to get to high frequencies. Plus it's a server chip only used in their servers so they can design for a much higher TDP than Intel or AMD and rely on water cooling.

    I think this guy is spot on
    http://aceshardware.freeforums.org/praising-the-power-6-design-t426.html

    Later this year Intel will release the 65 nm bulk CMOS Tukwila and
    it will likely easily outperform the 65 nm SOI CMOS Power6 on the
    benchmarks of most interest to buyers of business critical servers
    despite running at less than half its clock frequency and having
    less than half its socket level bandwidth. IBM might have created
    a better product and closer competitor to Tukwila better if Power6
    had been a quad design based on a Power5 core worked over to
    improve performance/power but then its wouldn't have the mega-
    giga for headlines in the WSJ and given IBM Micro a measure of
    bragging rights to help justify its continued existence. ;-)
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  8. Re:Power6 architecture: it's different by aproposofwhat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, although Gentoo will still take a week to compile ;P

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  9. Speed of light in FPS by helicologic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's very useful to remember that the speed of light is about a billion feet per second, or a foot in a billionth of a second. He was just looking for a measure that is 1/5 of a foot long.