despite the fact that the human eye doesn't see it as particularly distinct from its neighbors
Color is culturally based. It's not so much that the human eye doesn't distinguish the color, but that our culture doesn't treat it as a distinct color. For example, Russians have distinct words for light blue and dark blue, segregating them into distinct colors where English speakers tend to just see 'blue' and not distinguish as much on hue.
In Newton's case, it's possible that Indigo was a separate, well-defined color region that we've since lost in common usage. The color still exists, we can still distinguish it as unique when placed between it's neighbors, but on it's own we'd probably just call it either blue or purple. I'm not suggesting that Wikipedia is wrong about the history of ROY G BIV and Newton's fondness of the number seven, just that language defines our perception of color simply because in English, we have common words for those colors. Seven is pretty arbitrary, but so is three (RGB), four (CMYK), or five (Hexachrome). It all depends on why you're categorizing colors. This isn't even getting into gamuts or color theory. The human eye is based on red, green, and blue receptors, but that's just a physical adaptation to allow us to see all colors in our visible spectrum. We're more sensitive to some colors over others, but there's no reason we couldn't see indigo as a distinct color other than that in our culture it's not all that common to distinguish it as separate. There's no reason there should be six arbitrary colors in the rainbow rather than seven, eight, ten, or twenty.
Take teal, for instance, another rarely-used color. Some people will call it blue, others green. Still others will just call it teal. Our language doesn't change the color itself, just how we categorize it.
The idea that there are only seven distinct colors (or any arbitrary number) is silly when you take language out of it and just apply numerical values to colors. What color is #fc0? Yellow? Orange? Orangish-yellow? What is the exact wavelength of 'red'? What color is at 450nm? (Hint: it's somewhere between yellow and green). The seven traditional colors of the rainbow are all about 20-40 nm apart except yellow and green, and red and orange. There really should be a color in between, and in some cultures there are.
Under the bill, authorities would supposedly destroy samples and DNA profiles from people who weren't charged, were found not guilty or whose convictions were overturned.
I wasn't targeting anything, just pointing out what the OP said. You can dispute his data, but it sounded to me that for the exact same machine (with the only difference being the OS), Vista had no packet loss and Ubuntu did. I don't have a horse in the race so I don't care either way, but from other posts in this thread it sounds like other people are experiencing this problem as well. If you are correct about a 'ropey' driver, then perhaps the stock Ubuntu driver for those particular cards is ropey and should be updated.
You've either got a weird sense of humor or you didn't understand that the GP wasn't judging either Vista or Ubuntu as an OS, but that compared to Vista's 0% packet loss (which is fine), Ubuntu's 95% packet loss sucks big time. Moreover, GP never said anything disparaging about Vista, which you imply.
If I've missed the joke, please explain it accompanied by *whoosh* noises.
A long time ago I worked 4/40 but the days off were staggered Monday/Friday such that every other weekend was a four-day weekend:
M-T-W-Th + four day vacation + T-W-Th-F + regular weekend
Knowing that I would only ever work four days in a row made it easier to get through the week, and having four days off in a row gave me plenty of time to nap. I really liked that schedule.
This brings up the question of who controls the data in those medical files, me, my doctor, or the government? What if there were erroneous data in my medical file, from either incompetence, maliciousness, or outright identity theft? I'd want the process to be easier for me to manage than, say, expunging damaging erroneous information from my credit history.
In the wilderness you can rely on your ears and even your nose to help alert you to danger.
In the city the only thing you got are your eyes. and that does in fact stress out the brain because it no longer has any ability to spread around the processing.
I rely on my ears in the city all the time to let me know where cars are while I'm biking in the street. Ears are almost as effective as a rear-view mirror in city traffic. Moreover, why would only using your eyes to alert you to danger stress the brain? I don't buy your 'spread around the processing' argument--if that were true blind or deaf people should be more stressed out by their missing sense and that's just not the case. If you're in a dangerous environment, you will feel stress. The question is, do people really see a city street as all that dangerous? I don't.
Plus Humans are not Herd creatures, and we honestly are uncomfortable in a herd.
Just because you're agoraphobic and/or an extreme introvert doesn't mean everyone else is too. Besides, the fossil record says that humans are group animals.
most of my "AHA!" moments are when I am out in the wild
Most of my 'AHA' moments occur when I've been working on a problem intensely and then take a walk for five minutes. That usually allows me to attack the problem from a different direction by thinking about other things.
This is not to say that I don't enjoy being in nature to relax, but the reason I'm relaxing is because I'm not stressed out about work and other problems of daily life, not because I somehow belong in the woods instead of the city. I can also relax by hanging out with my family and friends at a party.
I think the translation for 'pants' into Yankee is 'underwear' in which case it's a little less nonsensical. I believe 'trousers' is Brit for the Yankee 'pants'.
Very insightful post and I agree with just about everything you said, except this part:
The leftist view that we need to prop up these companies is completely wrong. The righties' hands-off approach to all things private inevitably leads to wild fluctuations as companies consolidate and dominate government and individual roles followed by epic collapses and rebuilding periods.
The government leaders of both left and right want to prop the companies up. It's everyone else who opposes this. As soon as the economy started tanking the 'free market' right turned immediately to corporate welfare, and the left went along with it because they're spineless.
The left has more to lose here as their base strongly disapproves of corporate welfare while the right's base is more interested in keeping their portfolios afloat than actual free market ideology.
Another thing--most people use their left hand for chords on a guitar and the right for picking. The impression here seems to be that we'll see a YouTube video of this guy's bionic hand noodling up and down the neck, but chances are it will just be a pick holder.
I think you meant the company that makes the bombs for the B1. Airplanes are generally not intended to cause bodily harm, unless you're talking about NWA's economy class seating.
My interpretation of this trial is that they're trying to get a criminal conviction, any criminal conviction, so that the findings of fact can be used in the civil wrongful death case. That way they can pretty much focus on just how big a wad of cash they're going to get.
I was curious, so I looked this up. It's murky, but apparently if he's been tried and convicted in Germany but won't serve his sentence then he can be tried again in the US. I guess they're arguing that his sentence was too light and should be treated as if he hadn't served his sentence.
I doubt Germany would have extradited him to the US for this crime since they'd tried him already, but if he goes to the US of his own free will there's no reason he couldn't be arrested and tried again under US law. It sounds like he'd have a good argument to get his case thrown out, though.
I'm going to vote for my right to be a stingy and keep my money for myself and my own personal enjoyment, and for the right for everyone else to do the same.
I'm with you! That sounds great. Screw taxes. The government will just waste our money anyway. Let's abolish taxes. Though it will be hard for me to get to your house to play with our extra money without keeping up the road between our houses. Why don't we pool our money and pay somebody to fill in the potholes? While we're at it, we should take up a collection to pay for some security and firefighters since I'd like a fire truck to show up when my house is on fire and somebody to keep those damn uneducated kids out of my yard. I don't know about you but I can't afford a fire truck or private security--but if we get our community to all chip in I bet we could. We'll want to maintain some control over those people we're giving authority to as well, so we should have some kind of association of people we'll pick to set up rules for them to follow. We should also think about taking up a collection to educate the street kids, since we don't really want them out on our streets setting our houses on fire and shooting at us instead of working on our roads, carting off our garbage, and teaching our own kids, and it doesn't seem all that safe to just shoot back at them.
With all the collections we'll be taking, maybe we should appoint somebody to control all the money and dole it out for these pet projects of ours, since we'll be too busy playing with our money for our own personal enjoyment to govern it all. Maybe the same people we appoint to set up the rules could do it. We should come up with a good name for this organization, something conservative-sounding and important. Maybe we could call it the 'government' or something.
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Color is culturally based. It's not so much that the human eye doesn't distinguish the color, but that our culture doesn't treat it as a distinct color. For example, Russians have distinct words for light blue and dark blue, segregating them into distinct colors where English speakers tend to just see 'blue' and not distinguish as much on hue.
There have been several studies about how perception is influenced by language. It's not that the eyeball works differently in different cultures, rather that the arbitrary lines our different cultures have between regions of color space determine how we define various colors.
In Newton's case, it's possible that Indigo was a separate, well-defined color region that we've since lost in common usage. The color still exists, we can still distinguish it as unique when placed between it's neighbors, but on it's own we'd probably just call it either blue or purple. I'm not suggesting that Wikipedia is wrong about the history of ROY G BIV and Newton's fondness of the number seven, just that language defines our perception of color simply because in English, we have common words for those colors. Seven is pretty arbitrary, but so is three (RGB), four (CMYK), or five (Hexachrome). It all depends on why you're categorizing colors. This isn't even getting into gamuts or color theory. The human eye is based on red, green, and blue receptors, but that's just a physical adaptation to allow us to see all colors in our visible spectrum. We're more sensitive to some colors over others, but there's no reason we couldn't see indigo as a distinct color other than that in our culture it's not all that common to distinguish it as separate. There's no reason there should be six arbitrary colors in the rainbow rather than seven, eight, ten, or twenty.
Take teal, for instance, another rarely-used color. Some people will call it blue, others green. Still others will just call it teal. Our language doesn't change the color itself, just how we categorize it.
The idea that there are only seven distinct colors (or any arbitrary number) is silly when you take language out of it and just apply numerical values to colors. What color is #fc0? Yellow? Orange? Orangish-yellow? What is the exact wavelength of 'red'? What color is at 450nm? (Hint: it's somewhere between yellow and green). The seven traditional colors of the rainbow are all about 20-40 nm apart except yellow and green, and red and orange. There really should be a color in between, and in some cultures there are.
The BBB disagrees with you.
I'm sorry, all I got out of your post was
Used science engineering it is not so bird flight especially not engineering.
I respectfully disagree.
No.
Allow me to be the first to say, "Yeah, right."
I wasn't targeting anything, just pointing out what the OP said. You can dispute his data, but it sounded to me that for the exact same machine (with the only difference being the OS), Vista had no packet loss and Ubuntu did. I don't have a horse in the race so I don't care either way, but from other posts in this thread it sounds like other people are experiencing this problem as well. If you are correct about a 'ropey' driver, then perhaps the stock Ubuntu driver for those particular cards is ropey and should be updated.
You've either got a weird sense of humor or you didn't understand that the GP wasn't judging either Vista or Ubuntu as an OS, but that compared to Vista's 0% packet loss (which is fine), Ubuntu's 95% packet loss sucks big time. Moreover, GP never said anything disparaging about Vista, which you imply.
If I've missed the joke, please explain it accompanied by *whoosh* noises.
We've taken to saying 'jack-hole' when swearing in the presence of our kids.
Not to mention it would outlaw me laughing about how my toddler pronounces 'frog' and 'sheep'. According to this legislation, minors are born corrupt.
A long time ago I worked 4/40 but the days off were staggered Monday/Friday such that every other weekend was a four-day weekend:
M-T-W-Th + four day vacation + T-W-Th-F + regular weekend
Knowing that I would only ever work four days in a row made it easier to get through the week, and having four days off in a row gave me plenty of time to nap. I really liked that schedule.
This brings up the question of who controls the data in those medical files, me, my doctor, or the government? What if there were erroneous data in my medical file, from either incompetence, maliciousness, or outright identity theft? I'd want the process to be easier for me to manage than, say, expunging damaging erroneous information from my credit history.
I rely on my ears in the city all the time to let me know where cars are while I'm biking in the street. Ears are almost as effective as a rear-view mirror in city traffic. Moreover, why would only using your eyes to alert you to danger stress the brain? I don't buy your 'spread around the processing' argument--if that were true blind or deaf people should be more stressed out by their missing sense and that's just not the case. If you're in a dangerous environment, you will feel stress. The question is, do people really see a city street as all that dangerous? I don't.
Just because you're agoraphobic and/or an extreme introvert doesn't mean everyone else is too. Besides, the fossil record says that humans are group animals.
Most of my 'AHA' moments occur when I've been working on a problem intensely and then take a walk for five minutes. That usually allows me to attack the problem from a different direction by thinking about other things.
This is not to say that I don't enjoy being in nature to relax, but the reason I'm relaxing is because I'm not stressed out about work and other problems of daily life, not because I somehow belong in the woods instead of the city. I can also relax by hanging out with my family and friends at a party.
I agree. The current Supreme Court robe colors are way too dark now, and white would be a good change.
Step 1: cut a hole in the 1m cube.
Mod parent -1, Lacks Reading Comprehension.
I think the translation for 'pants' into Yankee is 'underwear' in which case it's a little less nonsensical. I believe 'trousers' is Brit for the Yankee 'pants'.
The government leaders of both left and right want to prop the companies up. It's everyone else who opposes this. As soon as the economy started tanking the 'free market' right turned immediately to corporate welfare, and the left went along with it because they're spineless.
The left has more to lose here as their base strongly disapproves of corporate welfare while the right's base is more interested in keeping their portfolios afloat than actual free market ideology.
And Colonel Sanders, before he went tits-up.
Another thing--most people use their left hand for chords on a guitar and the right for picking. The impression here seems to be that we'll see a YouTube video of this guy's bionic hand noodling up and down the neck, but chances are it will just be a pick holder.
I think you meant the company that makes the bombs for the B1. Airplanes are generally not intended to cause bodily harm, unless you're talking about NWA's economy class seating.
There is a certain perfection in a device that only works where you don't need it and can't work where you would otherwise need it the most.
Like a solar-powered flashlight!
My interpretation of this trial is that they're trying to get a criminal conviction, any criminal conviction, so that the findings of fact can be used in the civil wrongful death case. That way they can pretty much focus on just how big a wad of cash they're going to get.
I was curious, so I looked this up. It's murky, but apparently if he's been tried and convicted in Germany but won't serve his sentence then he can be tried again in the US. I guess they're arguing that his sentence was too light and should be treated as if he hadn't served his sentence.
I doubt Germany would have extradited him to the US for this crime since they'd tried him already, but if he goes to the US of his own free will there's no reason he couldn't be arrested and tried again under US law. It sounds like he'd have a good argument to get his case thrown out, though.
I'm with you! That sounds great. Screw taxes. The government will just waste our money anyway. Let's abolish taxes. Though it will be hard for me to get to your house to play with our extra money without keeping up the road between our houses. Why don't we pool our money and pay somebody to fill in the potholes? While we're at it, we should take up a collection to pay for some security and firefighters since I'd like a fire truck to show up when my house is on fire and somebody to keep those damn uneducated kids out of my yard. I don't know about you but I can't afford a fire truck or private security--but if we get our community to all chip in I bet we could. We'll want to maintain some control over those people we're giving authority to as well, so we should have some kind of association of people we'll pick to set up rules for them to follow. We should also think about taking up a collection to educate the street kids, since we don't really want them out on our streets setting our houses on fire and shooting at us instead of working on our roads, carting off our garbage, and teaching our own kids, and it doesn't seem all that safe to just shoot back at them.
With all the collections we'll be taking, maybe we should appoint somebody to control all the money and dole it out for these pet projects of ours, since we'll be too busy playing with our money for our own personal enjoyment to govern it all. Maybe the same people we appoint to set up the rules could do it. We should come up with a good name for this organization, something conservative-sounding and important. Maybe we could call it the 'government' or something.
What other industry could thrive so much on failure?
Weather forecasting
The Bush Administration.