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Paraguay Telco Hijacks DNS Before Elections

MrJones writes "In Paraguay we are at T-9 days to national elections. The ruling party has been in power for nearly 61 years (including more than 30 years of dictatorship). Now the state-run ADSL company is hijacking the DNS nationwide of a site that denounces the corruption in the party."

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  1. No oil by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you have oil? If you do, then this corruption is a worldwide tragedy which must be stopped, we'll send troops^Wobservers right away.

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    1. Re:No oil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, the US is about to open a military base in Paraguay, to have a tight leash on Bolivian oil fields, I guess.

      So, I think we will side with the ruling party in this one.

    2. Re:No oil by hjf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      never heard of Tarija, Bolivia, right?

  2. They should host the site on high-profile domains by mysidia · · Score: 5, Informative

    I.E. Google pages

    And put the site in many places so it isn't as easy to silence.

    While hijacking DNS of a small domain may go unnoticed

    Hijacking say Google's or Yahoo's DNS could possibly be highly noticed by the citizens.

  3. Down with goverment censorship by bumof2005 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's amazing how easily entire countries of people can be manipulated. China is in the spotlight now but it is nothing compared to countries like North Korea who will get thrown in jail if they have a cell phone for fear that people will actually figure out that nothing they are told is true.

    1. Re:Down with goverment censorship by orasio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In fatc, the issue now at Paraguay is different.
      China is a communist country, where manipulating the media is justified by their ideology.

      Paraguay is a country ruled by a conservative coalition. Their means of manipulating the media are much more occidental, and ruled by market news.

      In other words, what happens now in Paraguay is just an expanded version of what happens in most occidental countries. Big interests control everything, corrupt government people follow those interests, and use the weight of government + corporations to keep in power.

      In South America, we call that "la rosca". In the US it would be "coporate lobbysts".

      What I mean is that you shouldn't look at what happens in Paraguay as a third world thing. To me, it's a risk we all have.

    2. Re:Down with goverment censorship by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paraguay is a country ruled by a conservative coalition.


      Which only goes to show what my old bolshie Uncle Ivan used to say. "Kid," he'd say, "nobody believes in capitalism. Nobody believes in socialism. It's socialism for me, and capitalism for you!" Ivan may have been a red, but he was a cynic first and foremost, and that keeps you honest.

      In the end, there is only one thing that really matters in any system: transparency. At least if the system is supposed to be run for the benefit of the people who live under it. You can be all for the proletariat, or all for the free market, but if you're pulling the wool of the peoples' eyes, you aren't any different from anybody else running a con behind high sounding priciples.

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    3. Re:Down with goverment censorship by witherstaff · · Score: 3, Informative

      You don't have to worry only about the government censorship - corporate media censors items when it fits their interests too. While the article is about Paraguay, even in the US "land of the free" we have censorship and outright lies broadcast as news every day. Fox news had reporters fired when they refused to lie in one of their reporting pieces. They sued under the whistleblower laws but lost.

      Here's the chilling verdict: There is no law in the US that news cannot lie to you. Or for better wording - Because the FCC's news distortion policy is not a "law, rule, or regulation"

      While any government outright censoring is bad, any media company that passes itself off as a news source that is able to lie is even more insidious. While most news sources have a political bias, you shouldn't expect to have to decipher lies!

  4. TOR by explosivejared · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Get the word out about tor. Vidalia is an easy to use controller. This is the exact sort of time when a network and protocol like onion routing is extremely valuable.

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    1. Re:TOR by mysidia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hm.. yes.. but is there much to stop them from putting up "phony" exit nodes that also hijack the site?

    2. Re:TOR by erroneus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, for most computer users, "Clicking the blue E" is the most they know about getting on the internet. Someone out there needs to create a really handy Active-X plugin that does TOR and put it out there for people to click on. I know, it'd probably cause more problems than it's worth, and may not even work that well as far as getting people to use it... perhaps someone else has a better idea on how to get some of these fundamental technologies out there to the unwashed masses? TV ads might do it...

    3. Re:TOR by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      perhaps someone else has a better idea on how to get some of these fundamental technologies out there to the unwashed masses?
      Yes. We first have to stop electing corporatist authoritarians who believe they have a God-given right to meddle in the affairs of other sovereign countries.

      You can look at almost every single right-wing dictatorship and tin-pot tyrant in the world and find the fingerprints of the Nixon, Reagan, Bush I or Bush II administrations. Iran-Contra, Noriega, Saddam, Osama, Musharraf, Columbia, Bolivia, etc etc. The list goes on forever.

      Last week, in testimony before Congress, we were told that the President no longer has to abide by treaties because it's a "time of war". That includes trade and environmental treaties.

      After World War II, the United States was really considered a beacon of freedom around the world. We had the respect of everyone. Even after Viet Nam, there was a significant amount of Good Will toward the United States. Starting in 1980, we began squandering that good will, and in the last seven years, George Bush has destroyed every last bit of good faith that the international community had for us. Throw in a 12 trillion dollar debt and millions of lost industrial jobs, a phony war with somewhere between 1/2 million and a million civilian deaths, secret prisons and torture, and there is no longer any doubt that this administration has by far done more damage to our own country than any enemy could possibly do.

      Heckuva job, Chippy McSnort.The fact that he and Cheney will retire rich and happy to their respective ranches is absolute proof that there is no God.

      You better bet that the citizens of poor little countries like Paraguay are just keeping their heads down and trembling with fear until the day these monsters leave office.
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  5. Census of cyberspace censoring by KillerCow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In 1993, Internet pioneer John Gilmore said "the net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it", and we believed him. In 1996, cyberlibertarian John Perry Barlow issued his 'Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace' at the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland, and online. He told governments: "You have no moral right to rule us, nor do you possess any methods of enforcement that we have true reason to fear."

    At the time, many shared Barlow's sentiments. The Internet empowered people. It gave them access to information and couldn't be stopped, blocked or filtered. Give someone access to the Internet, and they have access to everything. Governments that relied on censorship to control their citizens were doomed.

    Today, things are very different. Internet censorship is flourishing.

    Read more at: Internet Censorship.

  6. So would it be any better if ... by Skapare · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... I put up site that supports the corruption of the party in control?

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  7. so what can we do? by gibbsjoh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    a. What is known about this in Paraguay? Are people aware that this is going on?
    b. What can those of us outside Paraguay do to help? Mirror sites, etc?

    JG

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  8. put it everywhere by kris.montpetit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I were Paraguayan right now I would be spamming every forum I knew of with the argument of corruption, regardless of what the forum was about, so anyone using the net in Paraguay/the world is likely to see part of the message at least once.. If they couldn't post the whole idea at once, I would do it in parts, on a stay tuned kind of basis, and just keep the coverage of your spamming campaign as diverse as possible so no single entity can silence it...Think anonymous.

    Seriously, Paraguayans should be spamming this news story..right now.

    1. Re:put it everywhere by orasio · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is not that kind of government.
      Of course, they _could_ kill you (they have the ability, but it's not their m.o.), but they don't need to. Think of it as a conservative government that is friends with all the media. They don't need to actively censor a lot of people.
      The internet is an issue, because it doesn't respond that much to corporate interests. That's why they are censoring this. That, and because they just don't know how the internet works, and don't know about the Streissand effect.

  9. Dig output by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
  10. Re:They should host the site on high-profile domai by jmnormand · · Score: 2, Interesting

    might also catch googles attention, who happens to have a market cap 400% greater the gdp of paraguay...

  11. OpenDNS is neither open or a dns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful


    yeah trade one broken DNS for another except opendns shows adverts, resolves everything (breaking apps) and tracks every DNS request just like spyware except the t&c does mention this if you read it

    to be honest you have to be ignorant and stupid if you think opendns is a solution to anything (except the owners pocket books)

    1. Re:OpenDNS is neither open or a dns by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Adverts? Spyware?

      It's an alternate root, not a proxy server. Most DNS queries are cached downstream anyway so they wouldn't get a lot of useful data if the tried.

      Last I heard it was run by volunteers but according to the site now it looks like they've got some funding. Good for them.

  12. Re:They should host the site on high-profile domai by orasio · · Score: 3, Informative

    They are hosting some of them at googlepages now.
    Anyhow, they are not small domains the ones that were hijacked. One of them is the official page of the party.

    This is not something that could ever go unnoticed.

  13. Venezuela by Gocho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Same thing happened in Venezuela last year during the last referendum (which Chavez lost, BTW). The newly nationalized CANTV (the main Telco) hijacked all of its customers DNS to block access to the two biggest anti-chavez websites (NoticieroDigital and Noticias24). Nothing new here but good, old fascist techniques....

  14. Re:They should host the site on high-profile domai by mysidia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The only people they have to prevent noticing it are a majority of the population of their country.

    And they probably have control of the media there, so this probably will go unnoticied by most people, until some time long after the elections, if ever.

    They might not care if a few dozen technically-inclined people in their country happen to notice, or if people in other countries notice.

    Govt' can explain away the "hijacking" as a technical problem, and people may buy the government's technical explanations over anything "some Americans" or some DNS nerds have to say about it. The gov't can just throw in jail or use ad-hominem attacks to marginalize the folks that claim they did something bad.

    After all, the government is known by most to be a more "trustworthy" and "valid" source for that type of information.

    Billy Bob just accusing the gov't folks of wrongdonig because he's a protestor, extremist, seditionist, has a beef with the gov't, etc.

    They will either convince their people to believe it or intimidate their people into believing it, and either approach works all the same.

  15. Gret way to prove uncorrupt by a_generic_name · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh yeah, hijack a site saying you're corrupt. What a great way to prove that you're not.

  16. Re:Hard to fight if Bush is behind this. by shawnap · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are quite a few dubious claims in that article, but the most unbelievable is the implication that Bush knows that a country called Paraguay exists.

  17. OpenDNS by davidu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They are using our OpenDNS servers as the control group. We've been noticing that a lot lately.

    Plus, a lot of folks are using http://cache.opendns.com/ to start checking the records of their personal site from around the world.

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  18. OT: OpenDNS by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Adverts? Spyware?

    It's an alternate root, not a proxy server. I don't have the hate-on for OpenDNS that the GP does, but it does have several weaknesses as a service which caused me to stop using it.

    The biggest problem, and one that the GP alluded to, is that OpenDNS resolves *everything* to a sort of 'parking' page. If you're using OpenDNS and you type in a bogus URL, rather than just not resolving, you'll get a redirect to an OpenDNS page. This is, IMO, misbehavior. However, there's no incentive for OpenDNS to stop, because it's on these pages that they place advertising and pay for themselves.

    This behavior is particularly obnoxious when you combine it with an additional level of caching DNS. Let's say you have a DNS server on your LAN (like most home gateway/routers) and you point it to OpenDNS. If you're working with a site that may or may not exist -- say one that you're trying to configure -- OpenDNS will give you the parking page if it can't be found. But your local DNS server will cache the redirect, and it can take a while to purge. (I'm not sure what TTL they're set to, but it's evidently longer than it should be.) The upshot of this is that a site can look 'down' even though it ought to be up, because intermediate DNS servers cache the bogus OpenDNS result, rather than just failing to resolve.

    I think it's great that there's an alternate root, and I really like that OpenDNS exists. It's a great concept. I just think their execution deviates from accepted practice and standards, and that's no way to run a DNS server. Too much rides on it.
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    1. Re:OT: OpenDNS by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know much about them, but I think the "Open Root Server Network" might be a possible candidate. It's an alternate root system, independent from but currently mirroring ICANN's, located mostly in Europe. (The sole non-Europe rootserver seems to be run by Paul Vixie, actually.)

      I gather from the Wikipedia page their major concern is monopolization of the DNS root by the U.S. Government.

      Their site has instructions on switching to their roots, if you run your own DNS server, and a list of publicly-accessible DNS servers that use their roots, if you just want to re-point your workstation or router.

      If they're not your style, WP has a list of other alt roots; most of them seem to revolve around the idea of having more or different TLDs than ICANN. The ones I'd probably consider first would be OpenNIC and the Open Root Server Confederation. The latter's website doesn't seem to indicate, at least to a quick reading, their root server addresses or any publicly-accessible DNS servers.

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  19. I disagree - Gilmore's statement is accurate by arete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not trying to pretend I know what Gilmore MEANT by his statement, but the way the first statement reads to me I certainly think is true. (I'm not saying there aren't bad things going on we should fight against - only that the statement is only false for a very idealist and broad interpretation.)

    First let's strip away youthful idealism - routing around it doesn't mean it NEVER works or magically disappears - it just means it's much less likely to work, easier to fix, etc.

    Second, let's be clear that "the Internet" includes all of us. When someone involved with that site posts it to /., that's part of routing around, and so is when we blog about it. This includes us doing hard work to keep it that way.

    Finally, while it's obviously possible to keep information _out_ (away from some people), it's very hard to keep information _in_ on the internet. If you're going to (for the purposes of this discussion) strictly interpret the word censorship until it was only one of these things, it would definitely be the attempt to keep information in.

    Traditionally censorship is keeping you from printing a newspaper (or killing you if you do) - that's different than going around town and taking away all the newspapers you can find, which is what's really going on here. The second technique only completely silences the _author_ if the newspaper only circulates inside that town.

    Again, I'm not saying this isn't bad... but in pre-Internet censorship we wouldn't even HEAR about this story. Wikileaks is a great example of the Internet being positive in this regard. The world knows about Tibet. The Great Firewall doesn't even really keep people from viewing outside content - you just need a little technical savvy - and a lot of bravery! - to view outside content.

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  20. Re:They should host the site on high-profile domai by Portal1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually they don't have control over the media

    Most news papers are in the hands of rich people.
    They are more in favor of the blue party here.

    This incident was on television here last night.

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