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Microsoft Accommodating Eee With Lightweight XP

KrispyChips writes "In what could be a first Microsoft is working to create a special build of Windows, just because Windows doesn't run very well on a certain computer. ASUS' runaway success Eee PC is now 'officially' available with Windows XP, but (according to APC magazine) is not exactly a great experience. There are none of the nice pre-loaded apps that come with the Linux version, for example. And XP has some real problems coping with the screen size and limited system specs of the unit. As a result, ASUS says it is going back to Microsoft and working on a special XP build that will be lightweight and more suited to UMPCs."

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  1. Open Source CD by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is where ASUS can come in a kickass, but bundling all the Windows versions of popular open source apps, like OpenOffice.org, GIMP, Inkscape, Audacity, MPlayer, etc.

    Add in a little splash screen blurb that all of this stuff ALSO comes on the Linux EEE, which runs faster, more reliably, etc.

    C'mon ASUS, whatdya say?

    1. Re:Open Source CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Haha. Looks to me like Microsoft is trying to help themselves here. :)

      New cut-down version of XP when they're just about to drop XP completely for normal systems?

      I smell fear of linux gaining market share. Looks like it's already the year of Linux on the desktop. :p

    2. Re:Open Source CD by peragrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have a dumb question. Why didn't MSFt create a special version of Windows XP for UMPC's back when UMPC's were brand new? Why did they limit the devices potential trying to run a full desktop OS on a 7" screen? Why the change of heart all of a sudden? Is it because suddenly real competition showed up?

      UMPC's were a great idea running shoddy software. Nokia's n750/n800/n810 the iPhone, and a few others are showing that you can get lightweight device with decent battery life if you use lightweight software. what's even better is that people are willing to buy them if the price is right.

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  2. BWAHAHAHAHA! by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Man, M$ is running scared on this one...I never though I'd see they day they'd go to intentionally design an OS that works better on a less powerful computer.

    Now, will this OS be generally available? It would be nice to be able to breathe some extra life into some of the slower systems I have here at work.

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  3. Why XP by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Eee PC is not really being sold as a desktop replacement but more as a portable supplemental computer, and CE already has a GUI that works with smaller screens. So what does XP do that CE doesn't, thta's needed here?

    1. Re:Why XP by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You mean other than not compete with Linux?

      Really.. that's the reason. CE is Windows 3.11 with a boob job. You can't pitch that as a Linux competitor and not be laughed out of the room.

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  4. the significant factor here by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft has been desperately trying to obsolete XP. They want it over and done with, gone, Vista is the new OS. But now this is introducing XP as the OS in a whole new class of machines, meaning Microsoft will have to continue to support it.

    Now as I understand it, the way Linux is designed, everything is incremental improvements. The kernel is the only linuxy part shared across all linux distros and everything else bundled in is at the discretion of the distro owners. So even if some parts of the distro get a rebuild, there's more incrimentalism here than "chuck the baby with the bathwater" rebuilds leading to Vista-style clusterfucks. Is my understanding correct here?

    Logically, Microsoft should have stuck with the incrimentalism. If they wanted a full rebuild of the OS, they should have done so, made sure it ran fast on the hardware out at the time of release, and included a VM-bundled copy of XP to provide backwards compatibility, the way OSX comes with a copy of OS9.

    What I'm seeing here is Microsoft is forced to keep XP around longer which means there's less and less reason for people to think about moving to Vista. With all of the web 2.0 apps and things like terminal services, the laptop becomes a powerful dumb terminal. I've seen laptops that crawl running normal apps run like greased lighting once an rdp session is open, they can handle the client just fine. So the Vista upgrade strategy, already suffering from massive consumer blowback, is struck another blow. XP remains viable and on the market and Vista remains the "Now why the hell would I want to do that to myself?" OS. XP will continue to sell as machines wear out but there will not be the huge windfall of the entire install base making a migration to a brand new OS over the next several years. Seems like a proper marketing disaster here. Interesting.

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  5. Re:Pre-loaded apps by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And they're doing it with Safari too. The other day, when I downloaded an update to iTunes (7.6.2??) it tried to sneak Safari in there. If I would have just kept on clicking next, it would have downloaded and installed Safari. Luckily I noticed, and unchecked the option for Safari. Apple is getting just as bad as MS.

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  6. Lightweight XP by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A lightweight version of Windows XP sounds like a wonderful idea. Perhaps they could then port it to desktop computers so they will be really fast!
    (reality sinks in)
    Wait, standard XP was lightweight when it first came out. It was also horribly insecure, that's why the service packs came out. The service packs made XP slower and of course your going to need an antivirus...

    Never mind, it's a horrible idea. They might as well start from scratch on a whole new OS.

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  7. Re:Why XP - Are you kidding? by miknix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are you kidding?

    I own a Windows CE handheld (HTC Wizard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wizard) full of hardware capabilities and the pre-installed Windows Mobile 5 renders it almost unusable.

    Luckily I could join a development team that were porting Linux to it.

  8. Eee pc can do without XP by wildem · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been using my Eee pc for a few months without a hitch. The standard OS is good, plus installing something like Ubuntu is a breeze. I've had random people asking me to show them how to use it, where they can buy it and so on. Nobody , and I mean nobody has asked me : Can I install windows on it ?

    In my point of view, this article shows how desperate Microsoft is in the light of newly educated consumers making a valid choice to go with a free and friendly OS over their bloat-OS.

    Not to take anything away from XP, as it has its place in the desktop arena and runs just fine for me as a gaming rig.

  9. Re:Why special version. by peragrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Vista was still in development when UMPC's and even tablet PC's where first released. XP, Vista, and yes even OS X make poor tablet and small screen interfaces. Even Windows Mobile has a poor interface.

    Apple was smart when they designed the iphone. there is no dock in sight anywhere. Nokia created a new interface for the N750/800 that is simple to use, and yet is easily adapted to older software interfaces.

    MSFT has everything so bundled into each other that putting a new interface on windows becomes a pain. let alone taking out the stuff that isn't needed to improve speed and performance.

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  10. Re:Why special version. by rriven · · Score: 4, Interesting
    MS does have a version of XP for older (slower) hardware http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legacy_PCs

    Processor 233 MHz
    RAM 64 MB
    Free hard drive space 610 MB


    All they would need to do is add Outlook Express, back in and it would probably work good

    I have installed VS 2005 and MS office 2003 on WinFLP so it can't be that bad.

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