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"Judicial Scandal" In Pirate Bay Case
dr_d_19 writes "Swedish media are reporting that Jim Keyzer, one of the police officers involved in investigating the Pirate Bay case, began working for Warner Bros. a few months after the investigation was finished. Peter Sunde, one of the men behind TPB, calls this a 'Judicial Scandal.' Quoting from TheLocal article: 'If the police officer is found to have entered into discussions with Warner Brothers before the end of the investigation, which took a year and a half to complete, it is possible that the prosecution will have to scrap its findings and start again.'"
They're busy having coffee and donuts with Time Warner's talent scouts
"Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself." Mark Twain
The problem is if he was given the offer during the investigation. That would most likely be considered a bribe, or at the very least conflict of interests under Swedish law, and hence it could trash the entire trial.
Your [insert loved one here] gets accused of fraud by [insert evil corporation here]. They seize your [loved one]'s possessions and spead viscious lies all over the media and the internet about your [loved one]. Right after the investigation is over and your [loved one] is absolved in court (but maybe not in the court of public opinion), one of the investigating officers goes to work for [evil corporation].
Different story? Not really.
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A new multi-national nobility (/mafia) who could fit into the average conference venue, are trying to obtain the wealth and power of the whole world. To do this they are willing subvert all governmental and non-governmental institutions into following the cause of this new monarchy.
The particular aim is to stop any competition or checks and balances that might restrain the growth of their power. Conflicts of interests and corruption don't matter to them, they have their own values and own replacement values over the traditional Judeo-Christian values that built the modern world.
So a police follows old media companies rather than the good of society. To him he feels no shame because he does not believe in democracy, he believes in "Intellectual Property", a doctrine not unlike the divine right of kings. Like Tudor monarchs gave out monopolies to the nobility and enforced them with the sword, so does the new nobility.
If we really lived in a democracy, then filesharing would be legal, because more people fileshare than vote for the government.
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Avoid impropriety and the appearance there of? Oh and the guy still has more testimony to give in court. Unbiased witness anyone?
Oh honey look... How cute... an angry slashdotter!
If you're surprised that Big Media appears to have manipulated the judicial process of case against The Pirate Bay, please raise your hand. Anyone? Anyone? Yeah. That's what I thought. Not surprised in the least.
The police must appear to uphold justice. If it does not people will apply just as they see fit.
Swedes have guns too, you know.
Also, did you know that the most important indicator of long term economic success is trust.
What do you think happens to trust if people believe/suspect that justice is for sale in the marketplace?
Why thank you, now I have scenes from the Crimson Permanent Assurance short burnt into the back of my eyes for the rest of today.
Ice Cream has no bones.
So you think it's proper that during an investigation that an officer is applying for jobs with one of the interested parties? That doesn't even remotely strike you as having any conflict of interest?
Aaah, but that is not how the police is supposed to be working. Their job is not "find evidence that supports the claims of the plaintiff", their job is "investigate the claims of the plaintiff and try to figure out what really happened". But from what I've seen of the US legal system I can understand that you're confused, after all, not calling a traffic cop "Sir" can land you in jail there...
/Mikael
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Because he's a friggin police officer! last i heard, Time warner wasn't in charge of maintaining the peace or fighting crime, so even if he was the best dang police officer they ever dealt with i still wouldn't see a reason to hire him. This smells like a payoff to me. and i hope Time Warner goes down
Well strictly speaking, they're not on the same side. The police and the prosecutor represent the State, not the victim. The State's interest is to see that justice is served for all the people, while the victim's interest is to get back at the party that wronged them. This is why civil and criminal law are separate branchs. (note that several hundred years of legal philosophy have been distilled down to 3 sentences, and thus I have grossly simplified the matter) IANAL...yet.
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The missing bits of article prevent this from being news:
Maybe some of these elements will appear over time, and then it can be a scandal, until then it is a desperate defense attempting to confuse an issue.
Spoken like a true American never been out of his parents basement.
It's interesting how often it turns out that the criminals are the ones with the moral high ground.
I was being harrassed for a long time by this cop, and he finally arrested me and roughed me up slightly. I went to the same gym as the local dealer, and he had a word with the police chief over their weekly brewskis, and the fucker left me alone after that.
Please stop stalking me, bro.
Where are the FBI RICO investigators when you need them?
They've recently accepted new jobs at Time-Warner.
They are both acting as representatives of the state as duly appointed by the people of that civilisation.
They are given powers by their peers (other humans) over themselves in the expectation that they will act in the best interest of all the people who have given up their right to enacting their own brand of justice.
They are not supposed to gain from their employment and this is why gifts and so on are frowned upon in almost all government offices (until Blair, anyway).
Interesting point, however you are wrong. They have a sophisticated argument about privacy in the digital age. That what private persons do, on a non-commercial basis, has no relevance to the government.
Whether those two people are man and wife in bed, or two people connected only by a bittorrent, they still have a right to privacy.
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Same goes for The Pirate Bay.
Please stop stalking me, bro.
It's a good thing the TSA doesn't actually increase security then or we might be in serious trouble!
While police and judges fill different roles, *BOTH* need to appear to be acting in the interests of the government, as opposed to a private interest. A police officer being employed by the people who are a party in an investigation he is actively involved with is just as wrong, in a fundamental sense, as say a judge ruling on a case against a company whose CEO takes him on vacation (actual case in my home state, vacation photos of him paling around with the CEO got out, and there were immediate demands that he recuse himself from the case).
Throughout the ages there have been many laws that have made 'legal' ideas and concepts we now find despicable.
Those who wish to control you like to conflate 'criminal' with 'wrong','immoral','evil', etc...
This assumes that the law is never wrong, when in fact, the law is often wrong.
It's a common misconception, especially in the USA.
Blar.