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Ballmer Calls Vista 'A Work In Progress'

shanen tips us to a Seattle Post-Intelligencer story about comments from Steve Ballmer at a conference earlier this week during which he referred to Vista as "a work in progress." He also admitted that the 5-year release cycle wasn't a good idea. Despite the approaching deadline for the end of XP sales, Ballmer's remarks about the older operating system were more ambiguous: "Vista is bigger than XP. It's going to stay bigger than XP. We have to make sure it doesn't get bigger still, and that the performance and that the battery life and that the compatibility, we're driving on the things that we need to drive hard to improve. I know we're going to continue to get feedback from people on how long XP should be available. We've got some opinions on that, we've expressed our views. ... I'm always interested in hearing from you on these and other issues."

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  1. The most expensive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...beta software I've ever heard of.

    1. Re:The most expensive... by rsmoody · · Score: 4, Funny

      Beta? More like EARLY alpha software! What I don't get is how in the hell they can get away with charging customers over $300 in some cases to alpha test this shit for them. Wonder if this comment will come around to bite him in his big sweaty monkey ass. Wonder if he will yell and scream and jump around then or just throw another chair.

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    2. Re:The most expensive... by Chas · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forget the Microsoft Method of software classification.

      Regular software model: Microsoft software model.
      First Raw Ugly Code: Alpha
      First Revision: Beta
      Second Revision: RC1
      Cleaned Revision: Shipping
      Pre Alpha: Immediate Bugfix
      Alpha: SP1
      Beta: SP2
      RC1: SP3
      Shipping: Security Rollup

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  2. So... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Funny

    This means Vista is still in development development development development?

  3. Software "architects?" Ha! by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Funny

    If builders built buildings the way Microsoft writes code... well, we'd have the US embassy in Iraq.

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  4. that must make it a beta by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2, Funny

    People should get it for free since they're clearly helping them ready vista for completion.

    Mind you even for free I wouldn't taint my system with that crap. Ballmer is a tit.

  5. Like a Turd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like turd only halfway out is a work in progress.

  6. Re:Translation, please? by jeiler · · Score: 5, Funny

    Marketing translation: "Like any other release, there are occasional issues, but we're working to resolve those issues."

    Real-world translation: "It's buggy bloatware, but it's our buggy bloatware, and if I catch you even thinking about another operating system I'll start throwing furniture again."

    Hope that helps.

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  7. Re:And if they said this about linux? by Idiot+with+a+gun · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a difference between "Work in progress" and "Oh bugger, that's broken."

  8. This + Chairs = PR Love by russlar · · Score: 1, Funny

    (Bet MS PR just loves him) Between this and that whole chair nonsense, yeah, I'd say PR loves him.
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  9. Re:Still Not My Native Tongue by jeiler · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, in software developer, it's "Oh, shit--Marketing says release it now. We're toast!"

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  10. Re:Translation, please? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Funny

    That might make a funny commercial. If only someone would make it.

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  11. Re:that was my reaction by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe Ballmer can re-invent himself as a caber tosser after his company collapses. I understand he's good at throwing heavy things, and he's definitely a tosser...

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  12. Re:That's great Steve. by imbaczek · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's one of those ???-Profit! cases.

  13. Re:And if they said this about linux? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
    This is a poor, half assed attempt to bash microsoft by the fanboys.

    I don't know if I'd call Ballmer a fanboy. He is the CEO after all, and he would certainly know how bad Vista is. If anyone has the right to bash MS, it's him.

    I don't think you can complain when he takes an opportunity that's handed to him on a platter.

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  14. gruel by patiodragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please sir, may I have some more.

    If you, kinda like, wouldn't mind, just putting a *little* more work into the product I purchased, I would ever so much appreciate it --not that I'm not grateful for the opportunity to use it, I mean, just if you don't mind a little work on the whole "make it work" thing. Thanks ever so much good sir!

  15. Re:that was my reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe Ballmer can re-invent himself as a caber tosser

    He's already half way there, all he needs is the caber ;)

  16. Amazing what LSD can do to your brain by slashbart · · Score: 2, Funny

    Impressive isn't it.

  17. one of the other issues by deconvolution · · Score: 2, Funny

    Vista is bigger than XP. It's going to stay bigger than XP. We have to make sure it doesn't get bigger still, and that the performance and that the battery life and that the compatibility, we're driving on the things that we need to drive hard to improve. I know we're going to continue to get feedback from people on how long XP should be available. We've got some opinions on that, we've expressed our views. ... I'm always interested in hearing from you on these and other issues.

    Wow, this is interesting. Some emails coming into my inbox also use very similar words to describe a vista that something of mine will become bigger and longer than I experienced... and they dont need feedback!!!

  18. take that with a grain of salt ? by unity100 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... and even Microsoft showing some willingness to work with FOSS (though, take that with a grain of salt you'd need to set up an entire salt importing business to be able to take that.
  19. Other works in progress... by bman08 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Roman Empire, The Dreamcast and Soviet Communism.

  20. Re:that was my reaction by ruiner13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Too many interdependencies, poor project management and Windows' notorious 'cowboy culture' ultimately lead to delays and the cutting of big features like WinFS But I thought THEIR ECOSYSTEM ROCKS!!!
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  21. Re:that was my reaction by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Funny

    Too many interdependencies, poor project management and Windows' notorious 'cowboy culture' ultimately lead to delays and the cutting of big features like WinFS. What would become Windows Vista was supposed to originally ship in 2003. By 2006, everybody knew that Vista had to be completed so that the nightmare could end and work could begin on the next (hopefully better handled) version. There's a saying at Microsoft that "shipping is a feature". Management cut other features so that Vista could just be done with and ship after 5 years of dragging ass. I take it no steps are being taken to correct the management culture before Windows 7 scarfs the cock as well?
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  22. I actually found a company that got Vista to work by cheros · · Score: 2, Funny

    They're a hardware seller, and all their sales desktops run Vista.

    Because all they use is a browser to a web back end (which clients also use) which Netcraft reports as running Windows 2003. Nothing else at all.

    In those conditions (i.e. avoiding any OS functions), Vista appears to work.

    Now here's an evil idea: if we all started to run Linux web servers reporting as Windows, MS could no longer claim the figures because they would be seriously polluted. Maybe switch Web ID every month or so, that way the figure bounces like a maniac..

    Just musing, of course. I would never do this. No, I'm just starting an editor, nothing special, tadum tadum tum tum..

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  23. Work in Progress - Vista Edition (Parody) by D+Ninja · · Score: 3, Funny

    Work in Progress - Vista Edition
    To: Alan Jackson - Work in Progress

    Okay, look, I'm a pile of trash
    But I give the boys at Slashdot something to bash.
    My older sibling was good; He was born in 2003
    Alright I admit, my development was cursory
    And I can easily understand why you all curse me.
    I'm such a big thing; you might as well use XP

    You get tired and disgusted with me
    When I can't be just what you want me to be.
    I know I'm not held in high regard
    I leave all my users bumbling and scarred
    I even asked the coders to try and help me
    But they quickly responded, "Just use Linux, it's free."
    Just by patient, I'm a work in progress.

    I'm sorry you get mad, 'cause I'm slow as f*ck
    I think that my code has run all amok
    You didn't need to get work done, you have all night.
    I really hope that there are no hard feelings between us
    I just wiped out your files, there's no need to cuss
    But I'm starting to see now, what you been saying is right.

    You get tired and disgusted with me
    When I can't be just what you want me to be.
    I know I'm not held in high regard
    I leave all my users bumbling and scarred
    I even asked the coders to try and help me
    But they quickly responded, "Just use Linux, it's free."
    Just by patient, I'm a work in progress.

    I know they meant well with my security
    But there's something damn annoying about UAC
    I'm getting in touch with, my old Unix roots.
    I should probably do the health thing that you want me to do
    Slim down around the center; lose a "feature" or two
    Now you're probably right, sir
    But it's all good, so what should I exclude?

    You get tired and disgusted with me
    When I can't be just what you want me to be.
    I know I'm not held in high regard
    I leave all my users bumbling and scarred
    I even asked the coders to try and help me
    But they quickly responded, "Just use Linux, it's free."
    Just by patient, I'm a work in progress.

    Oh Steve B, just be patient now,
    I'm a work in progress.

    Oh, I need a major tune up.
    Maybe Windows 7 will do it.

  24. Re:And if they said this about linux? by zenkonami · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't know if I'd call Ballmer a fanboy. He is the CEO after all, and he would certainly know how bad Vista is. If anyone has the right to throw a chair at MS, it's him.
    There. Fixed that for ya. I sure couldn't do that to a MS product.
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  25. Re:that was my reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and now Microsoft's credibility has fallen through the floor.



    Microsoft had credibility?

  26. Re:that was my reaction by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Funny
    When Alchin was fired the new release manager mentioned we have to release it within 120 days or cancel it and stick with XP forever.

    I heard he sent an email saying;

    "Release Vista in 120 days?" [Cancel] [Allow]

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  27. Re:that was my reaction by TheSeer2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've got a laptop, that has 1gb of RAM (shared with it's POS graphics card) and it runs Aero /fine/. (FYI: Proper Aero with Flip3D, not the Vista basic version). You're just spouting bull or using some weird PC. I can run OBLIVION with reasonable performance on my Vista PC with 1gb of RAM so, really I don't see what the heck you are on about.