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JFK, LAX To Test Millimeter-Wave Scanners

Narrative Fallacy writes "The Transportation Security Administration has announced that it's beginning pilot tests of millimeter wave scanning technology at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) and John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK) that allow TSA personnel to see concealed weapons and other items that may be hidden beneath clothes. TSA Administrator Kip Hawley says that that the potentially revealing body scans (YouTube) would not be stored and that 90% of passengers subject to secondary screening opt for a millimeter wave scan over a pat-down. The agency added that security officers viewing the scans would do so remotely, where they will not be able to recognize passengers but will be able to trigger an alarm if needed. The agency also said that a blurring algorithm is applied to passengers' faces in scanned images as an additional privacy protection."

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  1. Just a Matter of Time... by FurtiveGlancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    before we see "best of anonymous airport scanner" porn sites pop up. On the bright side, the faces will already be blurred. From the I'd-know-that-birthmark-anywhere department.

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    1. Re:Just a Matter of Time... by PMBjornerud · · Score: 5, Funny

      But if you're a terrorist, hire an escort agency and enter the screening with a handful of nicely curved girls. You know where any board male security guards will be looking...

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    2. Re:Just a Matter of Time... by palewook · · Score: 5, Funny

      how long before this device shows up as a Japanese Game Show.

  2. why? by thermian · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, just how many millimetre waves are people going to be smuggling onto airplanes?

    Is there a market in black market millimetre waves that I'm not aware of?

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  3. Indecent posing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was asked to do a scan at Heathrow, with no option for a patdown instead.

    To do this I had to stand in a certain posture.

    Imagine someone trying to push, with both hands, a wall coming at them from a slight angle above - or, someone doing a Hadouken at a telephone pole.

    At the same time they should have their legs like someone doing a "Kungfu Dancing" imitation, with the condition that they have just crapped themself so making sure they keep those cheeks extra spread.

    Image from front and back.

  4. It may not stop terrorists but... by pagaboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    it'll certainly catch any unauthorised commandos.

  5. In use at London Heathrow, but... by MadCow42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had this happen at London Heathrow. I was selected for secondary scanning, and directed to the mm-wave device. The operator was sitting in a booth right beside the machine, but only he could see the screen.

    The thing that really annoyed me is that I wasn't given a choice - simply told to go through this device. There was no explanation of what it was, or what it would do, only that "the amount of radiation is about the same as flying for an additional 5 minutes at altitude in a plane". However, when I asked the simple question "do I have to?", they sheepishly admitted that I did not. I signed a form saying that I didn't accept it, and they walked me to the front of the line for normal security!

    So, by saying "no", I actually saved about 20 minutes in line.

    My advice - REFUSE to participate in invasive scans like this. If people accept these new intrusions like sheep, it'll just keep getting worse.

    MadCow.

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  6. Re:Option to opt-out by MadCow42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes - but is also needs to be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR to passengers that they have the option to opt out too! I had this experience in London Heathrow - they didn't give me a choice, until I asked if I must do it... after a few minutes of avoiding the question, they sheepishly admitted that I didn't have to.

    People are often afraid of challenging any sort of authority these days - for fear of reprisal. That's unacceptable. You shouldn't be afraid to ask questions, and shouldn't be labeled a terrorist for doing so either!

    MadCow.

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  7. so they'll be checking kids too? by owlnation · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Airport security -- first job choice for pedophiles now. The government spends half its energy trying to catch people looking at kids in their underwear, and then the other half making sure some people can get a good clear view.

  8. My employer forces me to get naked.. by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny

    just follow my logic here. I only fly because my company makes me. When I go to the airport I have to put up with all this security bullshit and now they've put in magic scanners (it's magic to me, as it is to most everyone) and the security people get to see me naked. So basically, if I want to get paid, my company is demanding that I get naked. Now, I don't know about you, but I didn't sign up for that. I'm not exactly *against* the idea of getting naked for money, but I think I should be getting paid a lot more than I am now if that's the deal.

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  9. Re:puritian influences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally, I'm going to make an extra-special effort to be sporting a big stiffy the next time I'm subjected to this search.

  10. Medical privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm a transsexual, and this would totally out me (people generally can't tell). As if I need people to find more excuses to give me shit.

  11. Re:Option to opt-out by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    Airports were the first place where it didn't apply. Now you can be frisked before entering a night club, a political rally, or hell, even your local high school.

    The way the US has let the Fourth Amendment slip over the years is a disgrace.

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