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PETA Offers X-Prize for Artificial Meat

Bored MPA writes "The Times reports that PETA is to announce plans on Monday for a $1 million prize to the "first person to come up with a method to produce commercially viable quantities of in vitro meat at competitive prices by 2012." PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk addressed the controversial decision by saying, "We don't mind taking uncomfortable positions if it means that fewer animals suffer." An unexpected and pragmatic move from an organization that has a strong base of support from pro-organic vegans." The question I always had about this- if they can take one sample from one animal and clone it in a vat and feed this world, will the vegans be ok with that?

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  1. Re:What about human? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are actually some really good medical reasons for not being a cannibal...Basically you're probably not going to catch anything from the cow, because it's a cow, but a human? Make sure yours is extra well-done.

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  2. Re:Isnt fake meat called... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Informative
    Also no fat, gristle, tendons, blood vessels or bones to worry about.


    That will be one bland, inedible hunk of meat. Fat is where the flavor and tenderness comes from. Why do you think T-bones, delmnicos and strip steaks taste so good? They have ribbons of fat in them. Same goes for pot roasts. Loads of fat, loads of flavor. This is the same reason most pork nowadays is so bland. We've bred out most of the fat in pigs (except for the bacon portion).

    Flavor also comes from the bones. Marrow provides the flavor and is used when making stock.

    If we're going to manufacture meat from non-animals, I want my fat and bones. It goes along with my high fat, high sugar, high cholesterol way of eating. I want flavor! If I wanted blandness, I'd eat tofu.

    If nothing else, PETA is getting better looking representatives when at events.

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  3. Re:Isnt fake meat called... by xaxa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tofu is made from soy beans and so will not have the 8 essential amino acids that humans can't make themselves. And so it is not a viable replacement for meat. Actually, Soybeans are one of the few sources of all the essential amino acids.

    It's a non-issue anyway, since meals with a couple of vegetables often cover all the essential amino acids anyway (beans on toast is one often-cited example).
  4. Re:They are unpleasant already by aplusjimages · · Score: 4, Informative

    This isn't a simple biological fact. I haven't eaten meat for over 6 years. What's supposed to happen to me if I don't eat meat? I don't take supplements either.

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  5. Re:Isnt fake meat called... by HeroreV · · Score: 3, Informative

    In vitro meat is not fake meat, just like cultured pearls are not fake pearls. In vitro meat is produced through the same cellular process, with the same animal DNA. Anybody who did 2 minutes of research would know that in vitro meat (aka cultured meat) is never called fake meat.

  6. Re:Isnt fake meat called... by DreadPiratePizz · · Score: 3, Informative

    In their raw form yes. However when processed and integrated into food, all of those amino acids and proteins are broken down, leaving it useless. Soy also prevents the body from being able to properly absorb zinc, which is why some scientists think that autism is on the rise (lots of parents use soy milk to feed their children, and zinc is a key element in brian development). I can provide references for this that are NOT wikipedia, and are peer reviewed. Howell, E, MD - - - Enzyme Nutrition Avery 1985 Twogood, D - - No Milk - - Wilhelmina Press 1992 Price, W DDS - - - Nutrition and Physical Degeneration Keats 1999 Leviton, R - - - Tofu, Tempeh, Miso, and Other Soyfoods p.12 Keats Publishing, 1982

  7. Re:They are unpleasant already by Rei · · Score: 3, Informative

    I know a lot of fat vegans. I don't know how they do it

    Silly person, picturing that vegans and vegetarians must just eat a lot of greens or whatnot :) If you don't get enough calories, you don't feel sated, so you eat whatever makes you feel full. Which means enough calories. Which means things that have calories -- carbs, proteins** and fats. That's not just hummus and pitas -- it's pasta, lentils, stir fry, rice, beans, couscous, breads, potatoes, cereals, and on and on and on. I had a bowl of trail nut crunch cereal for breakfast this morning. Last night, I had a red bean jambalaya with bread for dinner. For lunch, I think I had some sort of pasta dish. I eat things like potatoes wedges with carrots and onions covered in olive oil, paprika, garlic, salt and pepper, all roasted until they crisp on the outside; spanish rice burritoes, with black beans, olives, chili powder, lemon juice, salt, pepper, garlic, onion, and whatever else I feel like throwing in; and on, and on, and on. I could recite recipies all day. I'm a vegetarian, not a vegan, but just my list of vegan dishes is quite extensive. And never, after eating them, will you still feel hungry or not have gotten enough calories.

    ** It's a big surprise to a lot of people that the most protein-rich foods are vegetarian, as most people associate "protein" with "meat". Look up the protein stats on, for example, tempeh or gluten. I could give you a big long list of a couple dozen common vegan foods that contain more protein per unit mass than the most protein-rich meats.

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  8. Re:They are unpleasant already by Rei · · Score: 3, Informative

    Awh, man, I'm so sorry to have to be the one to break this news to you, but mortality rate is "a measure of the number of deaths (in general, or due to a specific cause) in some population, scaled to the size of that population, per unit time. Mortality rate is typically expressed in units of deaths per 1000 individuals per year; thus, a mortality rate of 9.5 in a population of 100,000 would mean 950 deaths per year in that entire population."

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  9. Re:They are unpleasant already by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    See, fish aren't warm and furry and have big doe eyes. They fail the cuteness test, so it is OK to eat them.

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  10. Re:They are unpleasant already by confusednoise · · Score: 3, Informative

    Are you kidding me? How much of the meat that people eat day to day is from hunting?

    Answer -- an incredibly insignificant amount compared to that which is produced by factory farming...which is responsible for the environmental damaged cited above.