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PC Gaming Suggestions for Console-like Fun?

jayminer writes "We are a relatively newly married young couple who enjoy spending our spare time at home. We don't own a console but have a gaming laptop with DVI output to play games on our TV. My wife is also a CS major so she's computer literate enough. She does not like strategy games, MMORG or any other role-playing game. Apart from "Find the Sausage" jokes, we need quality gaming advice, preferably games which we can play with a single laptop connected to a single large screen, with two gamepads, a console-like experience. What are your suggestions?"

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  1. Obvious answer... by richy+freeway · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just buy a console.

    1. Re:Obvious answer... by Aranykai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Simple and sweet. Its really the truth though.

      Ive sat here and tossed around all the game I can remember playing over the years, and the ones worth the time all equate one pc with one player.

      Consoles are the king of multi user gaming hands down. Like suggested above, nab an old console. PS 1 or Nintendo 64 or such should be had for under 75 USD with several games.

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    2. Re:Obvious answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Right, that's why so many companies are pouring money left and right into performance components for computer gaming?

      Why the hell did I just spend nearly 200USD on a freaking HD 3870? PC gaming is dead...

    3. Re:Obvious answer... by trdrstv · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Its much cheaper to buy a game or two (maybe 30) than it is to buy a console and then buy games for it...

      Only if you're talking "Current gen". A Used Gamecube is $30 at Gamestop, and a Used X-box is $60. There are a Ton of good Co-op games for cheap (NHL HITZ is an all time favorite). Hell instead of buying the extra controller, buy 2 Gamecubes and an extra memory card in case you both want to game solo at some point.

    4. Re:Obvious answer... by Hatta · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why not break US law? There's absolutely no chance of getting punished, and it's obviously not ethically wrong to copy files. Seriously, what's your problem?

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    5. Re:Obvious answer... by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lost revenue does harm the publisher, which in turn harms the developer. For a wide majority of older software, the publisher either isn't still in business, or couldn't care less whether you pirate a game from 1987... that's what makes up Abandonware. Some companies actively enforce their rights on older IP, even if they don't still intend to profit from it: LucasArts, for example. Others will distribute older software along with newer software... Sid Meier's Pirates!, for example, came with a copy of the original 1987 game, Pirates, on the DVD. Still others will freely distribute older IP through their website for free, like RockStar games with the Grand Theft Auto series. It's really up to the company.

      But for product that they're still selling or have plans to still sell (for example, anything that's on the Wii virtual console, or could be on the VC), they can quite easily demonstrate lost revenue from your copying the files.

      Just because you don't know the person that your actions harm, or you don't like them, doesn't mean that your actions don't have consequences. Whether your conscience is ok with that or not is up to you. I'm not getting involved. But don't lie to yourself over whether it harms anybody, because it hurts your argument.

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    6. Re:Obvious answer... by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, easy enough to demonstrate... assuming I would have bought the files I copied for free. And also assuming that I'm not more likely to spend money on classic games when I get to try them for free first.

      But that's not really the point. The point is that copying a file is a private transaction between two consenting adults. The people who are behaving unethically are those who are trying to control voluntary consenting behavior. They're not losing any revenue because they're not ethically entitled to stick their noses into my private business in the first place.

      If the Sex Worker's Association of America bought as many congressmen as the RIAA/ESA has, they'd try to levy royalties on me every time I had sex with my girlfriend. And that would be just as fair as the situation with copying ROMs.

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    7. Re:Obvious answer... by Crackmonkeyjr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That morality gets a little tenuous with things like Atari and NES games, where you probably couldn't buy it if you wanted to, and even if you could, it would be second hand and therefore of nominal benefit to the creator.

  2. Buy a console by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you are wanting to play on your television opposed to a monitor, you probably have a pretty nice TV. Chances are your laptop cannot run at a resolution where you would even enjoy this experience.

    The 360 and the Wii cost less than the original NES did if you count in inflation. Do some research in game libraries and pick one. Well worth the investment.

    In terms of games, Guitar Hero is addicting.

    1. Re:Buy a console by Hoplite3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or even cheaper, buy a console from the last generation: xbox, ps2, gamecube. You can get them used for peanuts or new for a bit more. Best of all, there are GOOD lists of what games for the console are actually fun.

      Reviews of modern games are often clouded by hype and irrelevant trends. Many nerds will retrospectively look at their video game library and wax poetic about the ones that are still fun (and they'll do it on their blog thanks to ego^w web 2.0). You can get these games used for $3-$10. A seven-year-old game can still be fun.

      And if you haven't played it, it's new to you.

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  3. Emulators by Oxy+the+moron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get some old-school console emulators and play some of the great classics.

    I'm sure that what constitutes a "classic" will vary here on /., but I prefer some of the older Super NES games... Tetris Attack is awesome.

    You didn't hear that from me, though...

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    1. Re:Emulators by xtracto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have to second this idea.

      Just get SNES9X and download some games. I used to play that with my GF:
      - Mario Kart (SNES version is one of the best ones)
      - Lemmings (2 player snes version quite good)
      - TMNT (2 player cooperative)
      - Top Gear (one of the few two player coop. racing games where even if one is good enough, both of you will be able to go through the game [and you can cooperate by trying to block the first place cars to make one of you win :P])
      - Super Contra (a bit more "man" oriented, but fun coop too).
      - Rock and Roll racing (another nice racing game).
      - Battletoads in Battlemaniacs (two player kind of coop... a bit difficult [but quite fun if you enable infinite lives cheat])
      - Bomberman (My girlfriend loves these ones. It is OK multiplayer)
      - Joe and Mac (really funny caveman characters, multiplayer coop)
      - Super Mario All Stars (I can never be left out! including Super Mario Bros 3, i have played it with my girlfriend from the beginning to the end)

      - Ninja Gaiden Trilogy (not really multiplayer, maybe not really very good, but it is my favourite game of all time [Ninja Gaiden II for the NES] so I had to include it here =oP)

      Those are all I can think of now. The reason I choose SNES is because such games are not as complex as todays' games; therefore you can just sit start it and begin playing without two hours of tutorial (I am looking at you Wii Zelda ).

      Also, I think the SNES had the best kind of cooperative multiplayer games... these days it is very difficult to find such games in any console. The only cooperative games are FPS like "halo" but they are a turn off for most girls or other "casual" players.

      And, the reason I don't choose Wii (even though I have one, which is in its box since I moved home 2 months ago) is because I hate mini-games, and all the multiplayer games from Nintendo are mini games (wiiware, mario party, rayman raymin rabbits, monkeyball banana... etc).

      Oh! and the last one I would suggest is Worms. That is a really good game in which I have spent hours with my girlfriend and other friends (even a friend who never had used a computer had no problem playing the N64 emulated game =oO)

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  4. Speaking as a married husband with a kid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't mean to be presumptuous, but I would recommend you spend your spare time outside of your house exploring the world. You will have plenty of time to stay in the house if/when you decide to have children.

    1. Re:Speaking as a married husband with a kid... by Oxy+the+moron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Speaking as a geek married with four kids, I say any time spent enjoying each other's company is good. You also make the assumption that they have the desire and means to get out and explore the world... I know we didn't early in our marriage.

      Not saying that exploring the world is bad, but I think if they really enjoy gaming together, it's better than a lot of other alternatives. :)

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    2. Re:Speaking as a married husband with a kid... by jacop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am a happily married husband with several kids, play while you still can. I still play in my free time, but free time is a rare commodity in my home. When I was first married, I actually had the time to get out, and play videogames. Why would you stay in the house once you have children? I have never met a child that did not want to explore the world.

    3. Re:Speaking as a married husband with a kid... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't mean to be presumptuous, but why don't they skip doing what they enjoy, and instead do what you think they should be enjoying?

      If you didn't mean to be presumptuous, but knew it was sufficiently presumptuous to include the disclaimer, then why did you bother posting? So that we all know that you go outdoors? Next thing you know we'll be hearing about how you don't own a television either.

  5. Wii. by commanderfoxtrot · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wii.

    Much simpler- fewer wires.

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  7. Buy a Console by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In all seriousness, the total hardware cost of two gamepads, a TV out connector and a laptop graphics card needed to run the latest games will more than likely overrun the cost of just buying a PS2 or a Wii, Your spouse's tastes scream console gaming. No strategy games or RPGs? What does that leave? FPSes? Good luck finding a co-op FPS title.

    For Co-op play, console is King. There are a myriad of two player titles out there to cater for all tastes, and co-op is something that even gets included in some one player titles, owing to its popularity.

    PCs are not designed for what you're looking for. Consoles are, and they are cheaper, faster, easier and offer a better selection of titles. Just buy the damn Wii.

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  8. Re:a relatively newly married young couple? by aug24 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So what part of "No 'Find the Sausage' jokes" did you not understand?

    And what illiterate dickhead modded you Insightful?

    (God, I hate teenagers.)

    J.

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  9. Re:Legal ROMs? by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I recommend members of the general public relax and be cool. You're more likely to be hit by an asteroid than sued for sharing SNES roms.

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  10. Second hand by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've got a second hand Dreamcast at home for 50 euro's (roughly 75 US$) with a bunch of games. Consoles of around this generation (N64, PS, GC) onwards have all the types of games you'd want for a fraction of the cost of modern consoles.

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  11. Best Multiplayer PC Game of All Time by ChipmunkDJE · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You Don't Know Jack
    This game is the BEST multiplayer experience you will find on a PC without playing a console game through a ROM. You won't find any other multiplayer experience that both of you can play on the same screen.
    In fact, almost ANY trivia game will fit this bill, but You Don't Know Jack is just the most fun of them all. Brings a whole new meaning to "screwing your wife". ;)

    Chippy

  12. re: MythTV and MAME by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most MythTV distributions include a MAME emulator, as well as a SNES emulator, and support for several others you can optionally download, install and configure in their menus.

    The nice thing about this is, it gives you a good excuse to dedicate an entire PC to your TV set, since it works as a very capable DVR, gives you a set-top web browser, and other goodies.

    The downside? At least from all the knoppmyth distros I've used, I've always had some hassle getting MAME working well with it. (EG. You can purchase wireless gamepad type controllers from Logitech that use USB dongles and are detected just fine in Linux. But you'll have to do some creative stuff with the xmame config file so you have all their buttons assigned in a sensible manner. If you don't assign one to simulate dropping coins in, for example, you'll never be able to get a new game to start from your controller.)

  13. Re: MythTV and MAME by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pressing a button to put in a quarter is my favorite part.

    When I think of the number of times my weekly allowance was ALMOST enough money to beat Double Dragon... now it's "Hahahah, fuck you Willy. Click, click, click, click..."

    Petty I know. But very satisfying.

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  14. Re:Remember my.mp3.com? by Danse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretending to follow the law isn't the same thing as actually following it. Actually following it makes little sense when the law is as convoluted and ridiculous as copyright law is today.
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  15. Re:Remember my.mp3.com? by LunarCrisis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's debatable, and I'm not saying you're wrong. The GG...GP asked a specific question though, and that was whether you could do it _without_ breaking the law.

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  16. Re:Remember my.mp3.com? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want to actually follow the law, you won't get out the door in the morning. It's almost inevitable that you will break some law today - fail to fix a minor building code violation in your house, use a pesticide or disinfectant in a manner contrary to its labeling, break a minor traffic law...there are so many laws that no one can hope to be compliant with them all.

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  17. Re:Definition of copyright abandonment by crossmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and you never cited any to the contrary. Do you have any evidence that a rom nintendo claimed copyright on doesn't actually belong to them or are you just trolling?
    We can all sit around and spout theories all day, but since you proposed this line of thought why don't you provide some actual leg work?