Ubuntu 8.04 Released

Anonymous Karmawhoring! by Anonymous Coward · 2008-04-24 02:20 · Score: 5, Informative

Kubuntu by Rik+Sweeney · 2008-04-24 02:21 · Score: 5, Informative

Don't forget Kubuntu!

There are some of us who don't (or kan't) run Gnome...

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Re:Kubuntu by M0pper · 2008-04-24 03:05 · Score: 5, Informative

For those of you that can't run Gnome or KDE, don't forget Xubuntu! (http://www.xubuntu.org) This version of Ubuntu features XFCE as a desktop environment, which is more lightweight then the other two, while maintaining most functionality. Alternatively, you can just get XFCE next to your current desktop environment and set it up so that you can choose which environment you want to use for your session each time you log in. You could then, for example, use Gnome or KDE when your laptop is running from its adapter and use XFCE when running on battery power, to cut down the power usage.

Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by Constantine+XVI · 2008-04-24 02:26 · Score: 5, Informative

Are you using the torrents?
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent i386
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent AMD64
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent Kubuntu x86
ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent Kubuntu AMD64

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Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? by Constantine+XVI · 2008-04-24 02:29 · Score: 5, Informative

AFAIK, since this is a LTS (Long Term Support) release, they went with the beta Firefox so there wouldn't be major shocks when Mozilla stopped updating 2.x and Ubuntu updated everyone to 3.

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Torrent-only mirror by rmullen · 2008-04-24 02:32 · Score: 5, Informative

The Boston University Linux Users Group is providing a .torrent-only mirror that should be able to be easily reached regardless of traffic. It's often difficult to fight through the hordes around the other servers just to get a torrent file, so we felt this would be convenient. We also have a copy of the MD5SUMS if you need it.

ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/

Contains the alternate, desktop, and server torrents for both i386 and amd64.

Hope this helps.

Re:I can't understand Firefox3 beta5 by Tikkun · 2008-04-24 02:41 · Score: 5, Informative

Ubuntu releases based on a schedule (1 major release every 6 months, 1 release with long term support every 2 years), not when software is completely "ready". The merits of this can be argued by better geeks than I (I'll continue to use 7.10 on my desktop for a month, but 8.04 is going on my lappy pronto).

If you need completely stable software you should use another distro (Debian comes to mind) or wait a month or two.

Re:Slashdotted. by AlecLyons · 2008-04-24 02:43 · Score: 4, Informative

wasn't slashdot this time, the things just wildly popular.

Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by tomtomtom777 · 2008-04-24 02:48 · Score: 4, Informative

I'm running XP at home. I've got two large hard drives, not in a RAID. Were I to download this Ubuntu release, would it be easy to set up dual-booting? What's the best way to do that, assuming I don't want to upset by Windows install in any way? Would I need to use FAT32 on a drive to make it visible to both OSs? Is there a robust method to at least read NTFS in Linux? Would it make sense to install on a USB memory stick or an external hard drive?

NTFS read/write access has stable for a long time. No need for FAT32.

You don't need an external harddisk or usb-stick. Ubuntu won't disturb Windows.

Just download, burn and boot the live cd, then click the install icon. Ubuntu will guide you smoothly into making some space and dual-booting.

Don't Panic

Re:Firefox 3 Beta 5? Really? by Burpmaster · 2008-04-24 02:51 · Score: 4, Informative

Firefox 2 is in the software repository, so it's easy to install. Look either in Synaptic or in add/remove programs.

I upgraded by Blice · 2008-04-24 03:00 · Score: 4, Informative

I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04;

I like the new compiz-fusion plugins it includes.
Includes 3d windows for the cube (Where the windows stick off of the walls), this new "Shelf" plugin, that makes it able to shrink the size of windows to a thumbnail where you can dock them to the side of your desktop or wherever. They also have an "Error notification" plugin which is neat- Gives you an alert whenever any program has an error, and you can specify how serious an error has to be before it notifies you. The notification is just a little popup on your notification area.

In the new Gnome, I really really like the new VNC client. It has a "bookmark" section to the side, and it has tabs. Tabs for VNC! I love it. The other really useful thing it has is a "VNC scanner", which scans computers on the domain for VNC ports to connect to, and gives you a nice list. Besides that, there isn't really much else great about the new Gnome- They try to keep things "simple" (A.K.A., not much customization to be done.)

I've had a couple problems so far with Ubuntu 8.04, though. The first noticeable problem was that only one window on my desktop had a border. I.E, if I switched from one window to another, the window I switched to would lose it's border and title bar, and the new window would get borders and a title bar. I fixed this by installing Xgl, apparently I didn't have it.

The other issue is these odd black dots.. They consist of maybe four pixels making a block. There's about 10 of them in a row on my screen, even when I do the cube and other things, they stay on top of everything. Even in my log in window. I have no idea what's causing it.

And, finally, my sound isn't working now. But I see a lot of people are having this problem.

Oh, and one more con- The "Unlock" button for network manager is really annoying. I'm not sure why it was needed, maybe someone can enlighten me?

Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by wintermute000 · 2008-04-24 03:02 · Score: 5, Informative

Most modern distros will overwrite the XP bootloader with GRUB the linux bootloader. However GRUB will detect windows and present it as a boot option so its pretty much seamless.

To prepare, use partition manager in windows to free up some space on one of your drives, then install linux in the free space. As above GRUB will detect windows partition seamlessly.

If you ever want to revert to windows bootloader, just boot off the XP disk, go into recovery console and type a command which I can't remember but googling will reveal it very quickly (its something like fixmbr).

NTFS is fine with a driver called ntfs-3g, may not be out of the box but it is usually easily obtainable via an update. In Ubuntu it will be a one-line command to install, same as installing anything (you will love this about linux) as long as you have an internet connection. There will be a general 'install X package' commmand, from memory in ubuntu its 'sudo apt-get XXX'.

However this will only install the driver, you will probably have to manually mount the windows partition via either the mount command or editing your fstab which is the file linux uses to determine what file systems to mount.

Personally if its ur first go I would install linux on a spare box to have a tinker first. I went down this path for a year before I was game enough to muck with my 'production' desktop.

The critical thing is to have another working computer with the internet available so you can look up instructions on the fly whilst you're in linux in case you can't get something to work in linux that also kills your web browsing. Once you have google at your disposal, your issues (barring bad-luck hardware incompatibilities) are all solvable and someone out there will have solved it already and posted a solution for you, often with cut-and-paste commands to follow.

Have fun, and don't get discouraged - remember it took you however many years to learn what you know about windows, and for the first few weeks it will feel like learning how to walk again. Remember: most of what you know about PCs is actually what you know about WINDOWS, so don't be surprised when things are done differently in linux (on the upside it generally makes perfect sense). But in the long run it will pay off. The great thing is that in linux everything is controlled via human readable text files, no registry hunting required, even if you don't know anything about X you can tell a lot from the config files and tonnes of issues can be solved by a simple and obvious parameter change.

Disclaimer: above is general linux advice from a Fedora user, I do not use ubuntu so your mileage may vary.

Re:I Want My First Personal Linux Machine by TobascoKid · 2008-04-24 04:07 · Score: 4, Informative

In 8.04, you can use the Windows based installer (Wubi) instead.

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Re:Started the download 20 minutes ago by ryanov · 2008-04-24 05:04 · Score: 4, Informative

It gotten modded funny because it's really amusing how fucking stupid you are.

Look at the download page: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php

See the link to BitTorrent? Torrents are a sanctioned and encouraged method of download.

Click the link and read. Educate yourself, Jackson.

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