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Is Google Neglecting Blogger?

Ian Lamont writes "For years, I've been frustrated by Blogger's relatively limited functionality and other problems. For instance, we've heard about Blogger's security flaws since the beginning of this decade. Blogger's latest problem, which lets bots bypass CAPTCHAs in order to set up spam blogs, is not just a sign of Google's disregard for security — it's symptomatic of Google's neglect of its Blogger service. For instance, Blogger is just now rolling out a feature that lets writers publish in the future, years after similar functionality was released in Wordpress and Moveable Type. Is Blogger destined to be a sideshow as long as Google keeps acquiring and building more high-profile services, such as Google Maps and YouTube?"

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  1. Don't click it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Everyone knows the drill by now, don't click the 40 year old virgin's link.

    1. Re:Don't click it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

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  2. Google is neglecting more than just blogger by bjd145 · · Score: 5, Informative

    IMO they are also neglecting Picasa, especially the Picasaweb. Adobe and Flickr are doing a much better job of updating their online photo sharing sites. What about Google Finance, Google Talk, and even Google Docs. All things that seen to be lagging in development.

    1. Re:Google is neglecting more than just blogger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is an updated version of Google Talk at http://www.google.com/talk/labsedition/ - the new features shown on that page are: emoticons, group chat and notifications from Gmail, Google Calendar and Orkut.

      I do agree with your other points, though. One thing I really would like to see in Docs would be... offline support.

    2. Re:Google is neglecting more than just blogger by iMaple · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is an updated version of Google Talk at http://www.google.com/talk/labsedition/ - the new features shown on that page are: emoticons, group chat and notifications from Gmail, Google Calendar and Orkut. Not really. Its just the desktop version of the talk gadget (which uses flash/html). It doesn't support voice chat/ voice mails. So its more of a parallel version rather than an updated version.

      One thing I really would like to see in Docs would be... offline support. And you have it. Download google gears and you will be all set (currently English users only, I think). I wouldn't mind offline gmail. Like a backup of the last 100 emails and all the starred emails offline for reference.
  3. Re:Google does seem to have NIHS by Btarlinian · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not Invented Here Syndrome. YouTube is still a fairly new purchase, so it's hard to tell what'll happen there, but we've heard similar complaints about other things they've purchased like GrandCentral, Dodgeball, Jaiku, JotSpot, Urchin, etc. You do know that Google Maps and Google Earth, two of their most popular non-search products were the result of acquisitions, right?
  4. Re:usenet spam from gmail accounts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You realize that 'from' headers in emails and usenet posts aren't authenticated in any way, right? People can put whatever address/domain they want in there... gmail, slashdot, nasa etc.

  5. Re:Google does seem to have NIHS by maxume · · Score: 3, Informative
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    Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
  6. Re:If Google is neglecting Blogger.... by Rachel+Lucid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Blogger is not without utility. However, a bit of a "feature War" has sprung up between it and Wordpress, and Wordpress's abilities have expanded far beyond that of Blogger's.

    Google hasn't been neglecting Blogger so much as Blogger has been getting PWNED by faster-developing companies who can roll out more / better features faster.

  7. Re:Just like Google Page Creator by nog_lorp · · Score: 2, Informative

    I call bullshit, to parent and all the responses.

    Open page creator, look to the right at "uploaded stuff", click browse, select html file.
    http://noglorp.googlepages.com/firefox.htm
    - theres the firefox start page, saved and then uploaded to page creator. It looks all fucked because the image paths don't work, but the html itself it totally unmodified.

  8. Re:usenet spam from gmail accounts by Niten · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's had its ups and downs since then with respect to the volume of spam. (Thanks to Google, the present timeframe is definitely one of the "downs".) But yeah, Usenet is still around, and it's not going away any time soon.

    Many programming and other technology-related groups are still very active. Usenet is one of the best places to go for advice on the C programming language (comp.lang.c), information about PICs (sci.electronics.design), Linux advice (comp.os.linux.misc), or even cooking tips (rec.food.cooking).

    Usenet has its weaknesses, but it also has some unique strengths versus Web-based discussion forums: everything is organized (more or less) hierarchically; the user interface is whatever you want it to be; and it's easy to download and archive interesting posts. These features appeal to enough people, apparently, to keep it going...

  9. Re:usenet spam from gmail accounts by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative
    You realize that 'from' headers in emails and usenet posts aren't authenticated in any way, right? People can put whatever address/domain they want in there... gmail, slashdot, nasa etc.

    It's harder to fake the other headers, created by news servers en route, and if you look at all headers:

    Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
    From: service0...@watchec.com
    Newsgroups: humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare
    Subject: Designer Jewelry Is Suitable For Everyone
    Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:03:17 -0700 (PDT)
    Organization: http://groups.google.com/
    Lines: 27
    Message-ID: <fac98b06-b24d-4aaf-bd9a-913993a8dc17@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 124.15.94.100
    Mime-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209207797 28208 127.0.0.1 (26 Apr 2008 11:03:17 GMT)
    X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:03:17 +0000 (UTC)
    Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
    Injection-Info: f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=124.15.94.100;
    posting-account=EcV-0QoAAADl1VN7DPhI8RF4iMCbwmoo
    User-Agent: G2/1.0
    X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
    SV1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
    It's clear that they really are being sent from Google Groups accounts. The "Path" header alone tells you that, and it can be faked in part, but this for instance is Google from start to finish.

    The awful thing is that for many people Google Groups is the only usenet access they have, as their ISPs drop support and refer those who want it to Google.

    IN many groups recently over 90% of the messages are spam sent from Google Groups accounts. Complaining is pointless, there is no mechanism to get any response from Google, no way to have these messages filtered at source, or even from the display shown by Google Groups. Many people using conventional NNTP newsreaders are simply killfiling everything from Google. But Google doesn't care, it still sells ads to put on its Google Groups pages. The advertisers are their customers, not those who post and read usenet.