Falling Microsoft Income Endangers Yahoo Bid
Dionysius, God of Wine and Leaf, points out a new wrinkle to Microsoft's pursuit of Yahoo. The most recent quarterly results, which saw Microsoft's earnings drop by 6% from the previous year (revenue from Windows alone was down 24%), have caused the stock to dip. This has reduced the value of the cash-and-stock offer from its original $44B to something nearer $40B. Yahoo, of course, has maintained all along that the original offer was lowball. A business professor is quoted: "Whatever leverage [Microsoft] built up in the last few days could be slipping away."
Anyone who was around during the dot-com era remembers how it was H-1b limits that caused the crash of that wonderful era. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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Lets all say that together, shall we? "Falling Microsoft Income" Beautiful........... Do I get two more wishes?
It was the absurd level of investment which saw things like startups being valued higher than HP, Xerox, and if I remember rightly, the Ford Motor company, that caused that.
Venture capitalists poured billions into the industry without considering that the market had yet to produce the great new age of commerce that was promised.
Startups without a coherent product were valued as multiple million dollar companies, and attracted investment like dead dogs attract flies.
And all this at a time when I believe broadband wasn't even widely deployed.
It was a bust waiting to happen. It's just a shame that so many viable companies were taken down in the crash.
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If you think that Yahoo which is trading over 40 to 50 PE as lowball well then YAHOO is crazy.
Look at the earnings growth of Yahoo for the past five years. IT IS pitiful. Yahoo is being too arrogant for its own good.
Personally, I think Microsoft should just walk away. Watch that Yahoo stock drop faster than gravity.
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Software can compete on microsoft's platform, if microsoft is not trying to compete with that software. Just you try producing a word processor for windows, you will waste thousands of man hours reverse engineering proprietary microsoft formats, instead of improving your product. And even if you do spend the time and effort to produce a product that is both superior and compatible, you will face a serious uphill battle trying to get anyone to use it.
If we had a truly open single platform, progress and innovation would have been a lot faster.
It was always inevitable that a more open platform would take over from the myriad of incompatible systems that were available years ago, unfortunately it was only the hardware that was open, or at least competitive, while software became more locked in than ever.
Microsoft have stifled the evolution of the open IBM compatible platform, not helped it. They stalled the transition to 32bit, and are doing the same with the transition to 64. They delayed other valuable technologies like USB and SATA by being way behind everyone else in supporting them. And they are keeping people stuck on the crufty legacy bios, because of their unwillingness to support EFI, or anything else that would be newer and better. How many other good technologies have been delayed or killed completely, simply because microsoft couldnt be bothered to support them, or supported them in such a half assed way as to make people falsely perceive them as useless.
They (along with other closed source vendors) are also stopping people moving to other superior architectures (some of which are more open than x86, but less widely supported because they wont run windows).
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What a complete load of bull plop!
The reason they want the cap lifted is becuase the people being brought in from abroad are cheap pure and simple!
BY the way I'm live in the UK and so therefore have no agenda.
This rubbish about it stopping PHD's etc is crap. By the way if they are being bought in to fill postitons in the US, why do they need to create start ups??
Its a ruse,the high tech companies do not want to pay a decent living wage to americans, when they can hire and fire foreginers, who will also be less uppetity knowing that their green card depends upon them being employed with that company!
It is the falling revenue that hubris is set in motion. It is by the gook of management that self-destruction acquires speed, the product line acquires bloatware, the bloatware becomes a warning. IT is by falling revenue alone that hubris is set in motion.
Maybe we deserve this world ?
"Might I remind you that a lot of the reason computers have been able to advance as quickly as they have is because we have a single majority platform."
Thats the worst load of crap ever uttered in this industry. Most things on the hardware side has been hold back because of Microsofts unwillingness to support new technologies.
If you take your time and compare what was on the market when Microsoft started dominating the x86 platform you will find that first Dos then Windows was long behind the competition. They have always been lagging behind the competition, since day one.
Their saviour was that IBM released their platform into the open because of their problems with the DOJ (ironic isnt it?). They got a hold of a platform that took off like a rocket because of it being open and managed to lock down the software side of it. Had IBM held onto x86 Microsoft as we know it would still be making stoplight-software.
I think our software snails along and its development is painfully slow if you look at what happens in labs around the world. Microsoft is just now implementing things in Windows that has been standard in Unix since late 60's. If you think thats fast meet my lawn, enjoy watching it grow!
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Besides which, I cannot agree with your statement one bit - Microsoft makes damn good mice and joysticks!
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When I was a lad companies used to do something called training to get their employees up to scratch, Why can't Microsoft/ Yahoo/ IBM do this?
thank God the internet isn't a human right.
Colour me surprised, I thought with customers buying Vista AND XP; Windows revenue should've gone up actually. Even in Vista, the numerous versions out there seem specifically designed to confuse, and increase revenues.
24% decline in revenues could mean that people are either:
1. Pirating Windows XP very easily or
2. Corporate customers buying PCs with no OS, and installing Corporate licensed XP or
3. People switching over to Macs and Linux.
I think it could be a bit of all the above. In 3 years time, if Microsoft does not release a really good successor to Vista, it could be Curtains for Windows! (TM). Will it happen?
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
Because, outside the US of A, there are still some people who understand humour. Inside the US of A, of course, you can't even spell it.
I'm old enough to remember when discussions on Slashdot were well informed.
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Maybe we should thank heavens that Microsoft went towards the PC world?
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If we're going to use such broad brushstrokes then you have to admit it's pretty funny to have someone who is (or at least appears to be) from the USA label other nationalities arrogant.
Microsoft used to make damn good mice and keyboards. I don't know about joysticks.
However, the new Microsoft mice and keyboards that I've tried out are not that good, really.
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Currencies are SUPPOSED to fluctuate. It's healthy. Like a forest fire. Recessions, too, for that matter.
The weak companies can burn to the ground to un-clutter their marketspace and allow healthy, new companies to grow in their wake.
The strong dollar led to rampant outsourcing in the late 90's/early 00's.
The US was an expensive place to do business.
As the dollar weakens, the US becomes more and more attractive for foreign investment. European companies (like Volkswagen, for example) see a supremely talented labor force with an exchange rate that's to die for. And we have indeed begun to see in-sourcing.
As this happens, the US economy gradually strengthens, the currency rebounds to the point where the country is no longer attracting foreign investment. Outsourcing begins to look more attractive for American companies. Etc. The pendulum swings again.
The sky is not falling. It's just that the tide is turning. It'll come back in again shortly.
In November & December 2006, we deferred $1.67 billion in revenue for Windows Vista and Office 2007 into the 3rd quarter. This makes it hard to compare 2nd & 3rd quarters year over year, unless you look at it with the revenue moved back to the 2nd quarter. Once you take this into account, the results for this quarter were roughly what you would expect.