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OQO Hacker Claims World's Smallest OS X Machine

TechRadar writes "A hacker has turned his OQO ultraportable into the world's smallest Mac running Leopard. 'I will warn you this project is not for the plug and play crowd but definitely do-able,' the hacker, 'TRF' says. Interesting, given the OQO was designed by ex-Apple employees." It might run Mac OS X, but one thing this OQO is not is a Mac.

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  1. Apple already has that beat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My iPod Touch is running a cut-down version of OS X, and it's even smaller.

  2. Time for Apple to cede some control? by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Clones like this and the Psystar machine must have Jobs and the other control freaks at Apple screaming bloody murder right now. For years, their bread-and-butter has been tying their OS to their (IMHO overpriced) hardware. Now it seems that a lot of people are getting sick of it (if the preorders at Psystar are any indication, a *LOT* of people). Not only that, but the more heavy-handed Apple gets, the more they risk that cool-chique image as they appear more and more like just another greedy corporation (i.e., more like MS).

    It might well be time for them to consider doing what they could have done years ago, realeasing a general version of Leopard that will run on non-Apple PC's. They might even consider doing an "Apple Certified" program for Dell and other companies wanting to offer OS X as an option for their customers. If their hardware is truly superior, then it won't cost them much hardware business and will cut deeply into Windows' market dominance. In the end, everyone would win--most noteably the consumer (and those who like building their own machines).

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    1. Re:Time for Apple to cede some control? by peragrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This isn't a clone, it's hack like installing netBSD on a toaster, with a remote bread loader.

      Second neither this or Pystar systems can receive updates via Apple system updater.

      Thirdly Pystar has pissed off the guy who makes the OS X boot on generic hardware software. I am waiting for him to sue Pystar, Apple won't even have to get their hands dirty.

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    2. Re:Time for Apple to cede some control? by ObiWanKenblowme · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe they'll start to worry more about market share once they're done counting the piles and piles of money they're currently making. Seriously, how hard is it to grasp that market share != financial success, and financial success != market share?

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    3. Re:Time for Apple to cede some control? by dogzilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What makes you say that "a lot of" people are "sick of it"? It seems pretty clear that a majority of people buy Macs because they don't want to deal with the hassle attached to using Windows and Linux computers. Hacking OSX to run on non-Apple hardware isn't easy, so the folks doing aren't really Apple's target market anyway. In any case, I find it hard to believe that the folks jumping through these hoops represent "a lot of people".

      Let me repeat that because so few people seem to get it: hackers are not Apple's core market. Apple doesn't market to hackers, they don't have the infrastructure to support hackers, they don't design products for hackers. It's a different market, just like you won't find aftermarket performance minivan parts (requisite car allegory).

      Also, why do you think this stems from frustration with Apple's hardware? Do you also think that people porting Linux to run on watches and PDAs are doing it because they're sick of commodity PC hardware? Seems more like they're doing it to see if they can.

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    4. Re:Time for Apple to cede some control? by trolltalk.com · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Clones like this and the Psystar machine must have Jobs and the other control freaks at Apple screaming bloody murder right now.

      I doubt it. The psystar is a *noisy* pc, the first thing most people notice about the iMac is it's QUIET!

      People will pay a couple of hundred bucks for quiet, hardware and software support, updates, and the ability to just walk into a brick-and-mortar and pick one up off the shelf, etc.

  3. iPhone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure the iPhone is the smallest machine running OS X.

    Yes, it's kind of kiosk-style, but it is OS X.

  4. why Wikipedia links all the time? by with+a+'c' · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why oh why does everyone insist on using Wikipeda links instead of direct company links?

    1. Re:why Wikipedia links all the time? by stoofa · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, for instance, You'd prefer this to this?

  5. hm by virgil_disgr4ce · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is the new /. meme going to be "does it run OS X?"

    --Ted

  6. The new black? by pzs · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is cramming MacOS onto a wholly unsuitable machine the new version of doing the same thing with Linux?

    I want a dock on my watch and my microwave to make that *DNNGGG!* noise when I open the door.

    1. Re:The new black? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is cramming MacOS onto a wholly unsuitable machine the new version of doing the same thing with Linux?

      I'm reminded of this - Mac OS X running on a Centris 650. 68MB RAM, 25MHz 68040.

      No, not even a PowerPC processor. Fully software emulation.

      Running? Well, booting. Sort of. Excruciatingly, glacially slowly!
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  7. Re:Superior Hardware? by Kickersny.com · · Score: 2, Informative

    My cheap Toshiba tablet PC has accelerometers for emergency HDD-shutdown.

    It's three years old.

  8. Re:Superior Hardware? by fsmunoz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Indeed. It's almost laughable the veiled attempt at pseudo-elitism.

    It might run Mac OS X, but one thing this OQO is not is a Mac.

    No shit. To be a Mac it needs to be made by Apple. And perhaps have a faulty wireless card (yes, I have a MacBook, and that shitty Airport is a recurring problem, "just works" doesn't really extend to wireless).

    There is nothing that separates a "Mac" from a PC: the Mac is, for all purposes, an Intel, IBM-compatible PC. Generally the Mac fans say that "OSX makes the Mac", but when they see OSX running on non-Apple PCs then confusion settles and vague sentences appear, like the above, that seem to be based on some mystical characteristic of a "Mac".

  9. Re:"Is not is a Mac"? by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Him write fine. Your a grammar-Nazi!

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  10. "It might run Mac OS X..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "but one thing this OQO is not is a Mac."

    Forget the weird grammatical structure, what exactly is this supposed to mean? That it runs OS X poorly? That it is not Apple hardware? That it's not authorized? Thanks for the enlightening comment Timothy!

    "I just put my dick in your moms mouth, but one thing your mom is not is a condom."

  11. Re:Superior Hardware? by nano2nd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm a long time Mac user who recently made the switch - to a Hackintosh. The OS really is central to the Apple proposition. But.. the hardware is also a big part of it - in terms of the reliability that only comes with total control of hardware and software.

    Hardware is also important in terms of the user's perception of quality. I'm using the Apple Cinema Display I previously used on my Powermac and it is still far superior to the Samsung panel I bought recently for my kid.

    But all that said, I like the fact that my Hackintosh cost me a lot less than the new top of the range iMac (granted, I already owned the Cinema Display), and it still outperforms the real deal.

    However, 10.5.3 may be the end of the road for Hackintosh as I'm sure all the recent noise around this and Psystar will have Apple bringing down the hammer and breaking OS X for non-Apple hardware very soon.

  12. Re:The OS maketh the Mac? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're certainly getting more of the Mac experience than a PC one.

    Having installed OS X on an EeePC, I'd say all you're getting is an Aqua interface for a PC experience. When it's completely painless and everything "just works" I might agree with you.

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  13. Re:Time for Apple to cede some control? Nope. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Interesting
    They won't do it because of two and a half fundamental reasons:

    1. MSOffice
    2. Profit Margins
    3. History as Computer Maker

    If Apple put MacOS onto other machines, MS would pull support for MSOffice on MacOS in a New York Nanosecond. That would seriously batter Apple computer sales, because many of us (myself included) are forced by our employers to use MSOffice. Yes, OpenOffice is a lovely thing, but our IT dept and management doesn't give a flying fuck about OpenOffice, and never will. It's an MS shop and that's that. They don't care what COMPUTER you use - so I have a MacBookPro - but the software for our daily interactions Must Be MS. (sigh - I know, I know)...

    So, That's Reason #1 (with a gun to the head) why Apple won't open up.

    2. Apple makes Serious Bank on their high end machines (desktop or laptop) and opening up would blow those margins to the wind because if you're so up on a high end machine, you could probably build something to rival today's fire breathing dragon at a substantially lower cost than what HP and certainly Apple would charge you.

    Also, Apple depends on that margin, as it allows them to use that money to seed other projects, some few of which might pan out (iPod, iTMS) and some more that won't do so well (AirTunes, AppleTV) some that seriously Tank (20th Anniversay Mac) and some that leave expensive craters in the ground (Pippin, Newton, The Cube). Without the margins Apple pulls from their high-end gear, none of those ventures would have happened, and while Pippin was a fucking disaster, the iPod is anything but.

    So, they're not going to cannibalise their bovine cash dispenser.

    3. History as a computer company. They are known first as a computer company, that happens to make totally hip consumer items. This will change over time, as computers slowly fade into the woodwork, but until then, their flagship product is MacOS - it's the one thing that ties all their products together, and it is intimately tied to their vision as a computer company.

    So, for all those reason (and I am sure, many more) Apple will not open up their OS. It would be suicide.

    RS

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  14. Re:Why is this Slashdot-worthy? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lol, I love the way you say Slashdot-worthy, like slashdot is some great and highbrow institution. Hello, Lego cases are slashdot worthy. Saying 'Slashdot-worthy' is like saying Karaoke-worthy, or gutter-worthy, or rubbish bin-worthy.

  15. NOT running OSX by alcmaeon · · Score: 3, Funny

    More like strolling or sauntering, but definitely not running.