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Introducing Classical Guitar Hero
Alex writes "I've just uploaded the video of a piece of classical electronic music I wrote for 2 Guitar Hero controllers and software (which I created). More information about this piece, its software, and the notation involved in playing it is at alexwroten.com/works.asp and alexwroten.com/excuses.html.
I just figured people might be interested in finding new ways to use their Guitar Hero mastery ... especially with the hot debate over whether or not it hinders people's musical instruction."
what the fuck is this doing on the front page of slashdot?
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WTF? seriously, whats does all this shit do on the /. frontpage today. are we transforming into /b/?
Nah, the musical instruction debate is still going on, this has killed the musical appreciation debate.
I stole this sig from a more creative user.
Maybe you do not know how /. used to be like, but very rarely should the person that created the 'article' be the one who submits it. Slashdot should work where 'news for nerds, stuff that matters' is 'discovered' and then posted. There was another recent article (rather video) that made the front page which you accepted and it was of questionable interest as well.
I just watched the *whole* video. And it really really was that bad, I'm afraid. Don't quit your day jobs. Seriously. The score was monotonous as hell, and it sounded like, well, two guitar-on-overdrive-pedals copies. Which is exactly what it was.
I'm not at all against using the guitar hero controllers as instruments. Shit, people like Kevin Johansen can even make mouth harps sound cool, so why not?
But calling this drivel "Classical" music is kind of akin to calling Delius a "classical composer".
Hot debate? I don't think the debate is so hot over whether this helps or hurts one's musical introduction. It's just a simple timing game. Only a few media boobs who like to repeat themselves over and over are the culprits behind your misinterpretation that there is actually a hot debate flaming over such things.
I play the keyboard and guitar. I don't think it's helped or hurt my playing in either. Just as Quake didn't make me any better or worse at hunting dove with a shotgun, or the countless hours of playing counter strike, my accuracy with my 7.62mm sport rifle never changed. It's a game, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The 'real thing' in all cases is completely different.
I forgot to mention in my previous message that it's high time /. give up on the hip youtube linkage. Most of us read this shit at work and save the media filled garbage for a setting that allows for lots of bad audio and questionable content on the screen.
/. on the screen, it's no big deal. If the boss comes by and sees two guys pressing buttons hardwired into a shitty synth, he won't be thinking I am staying up to date on the latest geek news that is pertinent, such as security articles, the latest drive technology and such.
For years, if the boss walks by and sees
But go ahead, if you want to turn this into fark and end up eventually blocked by the nanny proxies, keep at it.
I've watched 40 seconds of it. (I actually finished to see them get the applause while writing this comment.)
It gets worse.
You make it sound that operating "guitar hero controllers" (designed to be easy to use by children. What's the target age of these things?) is like operating an actual instrument.
Look, I can play a real guitar. I sortof suck at it, but at least I can take pride in the fact I'm so skilled I can make it sound equally sucky.
Reminds me of this episode of South Park.
I think we can keep recursing like this until someone returns 1
not that I expect this to matter to anyone, but the songs at concerts are played by people with musical instruments. Who invest actual creative time and effort into making the music.
Well, sometimes.
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"That Guy" being the guy who submits his own crap (youtube videos at that!) to Slashdot? Yeah, I hate That Guy.
Klingon programs don't timeshare, they battle for supremacy.
I love GTA IV. I don't play Guitar Hero.
Now, I sort of look down on Guitar Hero, but I'm a live and let live kind of guy.
But I do want to point out a very real difference between Guitar Hero and most other games. I can't really defend against and alien invasion. I can't really join the mafia. I can't really be a Simpson. I'll probably never fly a jet. But I can do all these things in video games.
On the other hand, for the price of a current-gen console, a couple of "guitar" controllers, and Guitar Hero I could go out and buy a couple of non-heroic guitars. And in the time some people spend playing that game, I could learn to play one passably. To me, for my money, that's a way better deal.
I'm not trying to persuade you here, but I think this may be why others are. Why simulate something you can actually do?
-Peter
"Correction, you were playing a timing game to the beat of a Black Sabbath song."
Yes, I know that. You know that, everyone knows that.
"Clue number 2 - I program because I enjoy it & because it pays a salary so I can afford to buy CDs, go to concerts to see proper musicians (including Black Sabbath incidentally) and to buy games to play."
So do I, but I recognize most people would not enjoy it at all; which I am grateful because that keeps my salary higher.
"Yep. So by your logic you also treat yourself to the occasional bag of cocaine because Keith Richards does?"
Virtual cocaine would be the proper analogy. However it doesn't matter because you missed my point;which is Nobody thinks it's real guitar.
"Hey, guess what? You could also play them a Black Sabbath CD and end up doing precisely the same thing. Good isn't it?"
Not really. Kids are more interested in thing when they are doing something.
Not that it's a bad thing, but they would probably get bored listening to they CD and wonder off to read.
"Good luck to them."
Thank you
" But your point is what, precisely?"
You really are obtuse, aren't you?
My point is that it was another way to get my kids interested in music. Since my son is now interested in playing the guitar, I think it worked.
"So be it. I personally don't need to turn everything into a competition. Yes, you win, enjoy yourself."
and you just have to whine about what other people do so you can feel good about yourself.
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Do you think Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton or Slash play "Linux Kernel Compilation Hero", "Perl Programmer Hero" or "Microsoft Service Pack Hero" in their spare time?
No.
And why?
Because they are ***NOT QUALIFIED*** to do all those wonderful things with operating systems that we Slashdotters are.
Are you insane, retarded, brain damaged, stupid, or do you just intentionally utter the most idiotic and wrong thing you can possibly think of?
The reason Eric Clapton doesn't play "Linux Kernel Compilation Hero" is because the game doesn't exist and if it did it would almost certainly suck. If you could actually make such a game that made Linux Kernel Compilation into a simple task that was also somehow also fun, then maybe Eric Clapton wouldn't play it, but some real guitar player somewhere would. Just like some of them play Guitar Hero because it's fun.
This should be a ***REAL BIG HINT*** to you.
Yeah, a hint that you're a delusional moron.
I'm PERFECTLY qualified to play Guitar Hero (not that I ever have, but that's not even the point). Why? Because just like your hypothetical "Perl Programmer Hero" isn't real Perl Programming, Guitar Hero isn't real guitar! It's a game!
I mean you're clearly suffering from one of two catastrophic mental deficiencies. Either:
1) You think that plastic guitar is actually comparable to a real guitar, with commensurate skill required.
or
2) You think that you should not be able to play a simple game based on an activity unless you are actually an expert at the real activity, and thus would issue the same tard-rant against racing games, war strategy games, FPS games, sports games, and hell basically every game that isn't "Being a Douche on the Internet Hero", the only thing you are actually qualified to do the real version of.
So which is it?
So put down the plastic guitar, go back to your computer screen, earn some money and go buy a CD or a concert ticket.
So, you've never in your life played air guitar to your favorite CD? Never sang along at a concert, despite not having any business being a professional singer?
Soulless, and stupid. You're quite the prize.
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I think the youtube link was the problem here - if you read the site first and went 'hmm looks interesting this guy's put a lot of effort into it' and so on - instead of comparing it to the million 'you tube guitar hero' videos you've seen, where hand/eye coordination allows twitch freaks to sound as good as Mustaine - you'd have given this a bit more support than 'LOL sux F5 what next?'
"Give me perpetual instant gratification, or give me death." - with apologies to MacLuhann, Biafra, and Henry, in that order.
By the time you finish reading this sentence will end.
They could have at least got some decent effects output from those things. And more than 5 notes. I mean there are presumably something like 5^5-1 combinations of button presses (yeah, I don't know the math, here's my fake geek card..)?
:) I've done something like 36/42 of the expert career songs.. some of the solos are just stupid for the more difficult songs. I play guitar as well, and I'd say that Expert difficulty is sometimes more difficult than actually playing the song on a guitar (depending on how used to chords shapes your fingers are, there's obviously a bit more of a learning curve on a real guitar due to there being 6 strings instead of the one "string" you get on guitar hero :p ). Guitar Hero is good for training your rhythm anyway, I'm a self taught drummer as well as a guitarist and you have to have really good rhythm to get through some of the crazy fast strumming sections without dying for example
I tried Guitar Hero for the first time just over a month ago, it's way more fun than it looks
which is totally what she said
If guitar hero could teach me to learn to read sheet music and recognize different pitches, notes and keys then I would fork over the money for it.
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"Now if Slashdot does want to compete with digg and reddit for the top nerd sensationalist website then fine. People like me will simply stop visiting."
No you will bitch and moan and whimper "get off my lawn!" but that's about it, you'll still become bored enough to check what's on slashdot and roast-reply some stupid non-news article.