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Skype Gives Up Anti-GPL Appeal
l2718 writes "Yesterday we discussed Skype's appeal of a German court's ruling against them regarding a violation of the GPL. Harald Welte (the plaintiff) now reports in his blog that following oral argument, Skype decided to drop the appeal and accept the lower court ruling in Weite's favor. More details and analysis at Groklaw. Congratulations to Mr. Welte and GPL-violations.org!"
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Is his name Welte or Weite?
Don't fuck with the penguin. We need to go after these fuckers and teach them a lesson!!!!
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I was under the impression that the Klingons took out the Ferrangi culprits who originally caused this... should the rest of the empire be punished for their greed?
WWPD - What Would Picard Do?
"To all those who don't like the license: you don't have to use it. Just write your own code. But if you want to use GPL code, the license comes with it. It's a package deal. Thanks."
(which has been oft-said on /.)
$nice = $webHosting + $domainNames + $sslCerts
Does this allow reverse-engineering of the skype protocol?
What GPL'd software did Skype use and how was it discovered that Skype was using it?
This ist the first time, a foreign firm loses in a German court in a GPL-related case. Furthermore, the judge pointed out that it is not sufficient to offer the related sources only on the internet and mention this in a rather general way in the product manual.
:-)
Go Harald
Regards
Stirz
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for not being a prick and pushing the thing around like sco did.
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The founders of this beautiful free market weep. Go suckle on the rotten shaft of Linyos Torovoltos' drippling, flaccid penis and leave the rest of us alone you fascist bastards!
Well, it looks like business can no longer ignore and quietly use GPL code in supporting roles and they'll have to recognize it for what it is.
The GPL is a fully licensed viral threat that will expose all of the work it touches it to outside scrutiny whether you want it or not. No longer can GPL code be relied upon to fill some small niche in a product environment. Whatever it touches, it taints. Instead, it will be necessary to re-invent these wheels. Poorly.
It therefore immediately needs to be eliminated from the workplace or used only as an isolated tool for "support" or "administration". Keep any GPL code away from the production, distribution, or testing of proprietary code.
I wish I could put <sarcasm> tags on this. You think this is a troll, but this *will* happen. Congratulations for making the world a better place.
Eating poop from a toilet is not sanitary. You could develop Hepatatis or a bacterial infection (50% of that log is bacteria, not food waste) -- or an STD of some sort. I advise all readers to think of the consequences before eating poop (especially from a public toilet).
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One option is remove GPL'ed code and use some closed source code. Other option: what if they release the code under GPL. Does this mean I can use it to make my own application for Skype network. what happens to the proprietary Skype protocol ?
Stop me if I'm wrong here, but this seems to be roughly what happened....
Skype ripped off some GPL code.
After they got caught out, it went to court.
After some months toing and froing, Skype lost a lower court settlement.
Skype took it to a higher court.
Later that day, the story appears on slashdot.
The next day, Skype drops the case.
Coincidence?
+1 IDisagreeSoHeMustBeATrollOrAnAstroturferOrAShill
See how long you can get by without gcc. Even the iPhone relies on gcc.
Tell me about how all thos iPhone apps are infected.
This is not over. Until Ebay/skype make big contributions to open source, we will remember that they are the enemy of the free, and though they lost, have not repented.
I know ebay treats the customers and seller poorly, but this shows what is really inside that corp. Nothing but greed.
Does this mean the code will be available so a 64bit version could happen in a soon future?
The poster you were replying to was referring to using software either without obtaining a license or using it outside of the terms of that license.
The only way you can have "unlicensed software" the way you're talking about it (as in, there's no license that applies) would be for the original author to decleare it public domain. Possibly also when the copyright expires, but that's pretty unlikely with software!
...it is not a loss. The case was abandoned, not ruled on, and this could be problematical. Rulings carry weight in future cases, actions by either party generally do not. If the judge had ruled Skype had violated GPL, in the appeal, it would have substantially boosted the GPL's legal status. As it is, only the original case law exists. Which may be sufficient, but more would likely have helped.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
You know what? I was going to try to tell you how wrong you were, and how you basically don't have any idea what you are talking about (or you do, so you know how to make sure everything you say is wrong).
But you know what? That's stupid. I'm not going to argue. You're right. You're absolutely right, the GPL will corrupt your code, your people, and your family. You will have to open source your bedroom activities, and invite RMS to watch. It's all true.
Because, frankly, I'm sick of companies who are too dumb to figure it out themselves, or too fucking retarded to hire the cheapest lawyer they can find to explain it to them if they can't figure it out for themselves, what exactly the GPL does and doesn't do. Cus if you can't figure it out, and are going to just assume whatever comes into your crack-damage brain (it'll pollute us all! no wait it's free we can do whatever we want!)... Then I don't want you using GPL code.
I mean seriously. If you can't figure out how maybe modifying the Linux kernel into your product means you have some obligations to follow vis-a-vis this free OS kernel you just picked up, and how this doesn't affect all the code you wrote that has nothing to do with the kernel... Then you are an idiot, your company deserves to fail, and I can only hope that your fear of using GPL software puts you at a competitive disadvantage and thus hastens that day.
So yes. GPL is viral. Pass it on.
The enemies of Democracy are
And the forces of legalistic pedantry march on...
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
Skype used an embedded Linux operating system in a mobile phone device. The GPL applies to the Linux kernel and the system utilities they used, not to the proprietary Skype software (e.g. the client) that they also installed on the device. It's ok for the device to have both GPL'd software (Linux) and non-GPL'd software (the Skype client). The problem is that they didn't obey the GPL regarding Linux, by not advising the customers that about their rights regarding the free software on the device. At no point was the secrecy of the Skype protocol at stake.
Dude, being on a condo board is one of the most thankless jobs in the world. No pay, everybody complains about everything you do, and in the end the best you can hope for is to break even -- not have the maintenance of your complex go down the toilet. Some jerks even want to sue you for keeping their heat on and their grass mowed.
This is in the same realm as politics, if you don't like what is going on -- campaign for office. You will learn a thing or two about the apathy that they have to deal with all the time.