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DVD Porn Viruses Ravage US Soldiers' Computers

stevegee58 writes "Tom Ricks' Inbox in the Sunday Washington Post reported that bootleg DVDs purchased in Iraqi markets ('souks') are frequently infected with viruses. Iraqi soldiers were affected as well; electronic interaction between Iraqi and US soldiers frequently resulted in a corresponding exchange of viruses from these infected DVDs."

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  1. Wowzers... by BobMcD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This sounds like a fairly big national security issue to me...

    Now, I do realize that these computers operate on separate networks, but traveling disks that are frequently infected presents an issue. Or, put another way, a tempting target for foreign intelligence.

    And before you jump to the 'impossible' conclusion, consider this: What are those Iraqi officers trading with our soldiers by thumb drive? Is it ALL unsec material? NONE of it is of ANY operational importance? Really? Really, really?

    That strains disbelief...

    And consider this: If the portable drives were intentionally infected by a custom virus designed by, oh say, a super power, would the sec networks have a chance to detect it?

    My network would not. I'm certain of that. And I'm also fairly certain that I have far less BillyWare than they do in their deployment.

  2. Re:Good old days! by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was overseas and bought a lot of bootlegs as well. But I was all digital....

    I've never had a bootleg DAT tape infect a DAT player.

    I've never had a virus filled CD infect a CD player.

    I've never had a Virus filled DVD infect my DVD player.

    The answer here is use a hardware player and not a computer. An incredibly simple and cheap solution.

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  3. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by Binkleyz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, I'm fairly certain (at least I hope so) that you're either joking or just being a troll (in which case, I'm falling directly into your trap), but as (maybe one of the few) people on this site that were also previously in the military, I'm just about as offended as humanly possible at your comment above.

    Not everyone that goes into the military is a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal, and quite a few of us are above average in terms of intelligence. I spent 6 years in the Navy, and I (nor anyone I knew) didn't shoot, rape OR pillage anyone.

    On a site like this one, where people from the outside would presume everyone is a pasty and pimply 34 year old living in their parent's basement, I really would expect (just a little) a little more tolerance and less assumption from the people involved.

  4. Re:Support Our troops by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After having been there a few times, I'll just point out that it is 100% illegal to have any kind of pr0n in country. No DVDs, no Playboys, no nothin, so don't mail it (I realize you made the above statement in jest, but someone reading it may think it's a good idea).

    That being said, I've seen more pr0n on classified servers than I've seen in the rest of my previous life. We had to remove about 3 or 4 TB off of one server so the map server could run properly. That and it was slowing down Call of Duty. Mind you, it wasn't all of it, just a couple of TB.

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  5. Re:Porn isn't allowed in Iraq by Dancindan84 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If that's the case, they've (The armed forces) brought this on themselves. Porn isn't illegal, the soldiers are adults and they're away from their significant others (if they have one). Denying it to them in that situation is just asking for them to go underground for it.

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  6. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by Jumperalex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please do everyone a favor and learn the difference between the military, an instrument of national power, and the GOVERNMENT that wields it. If you want to meet a person who abhors war, talk to a soldier. If you want to judge someone for wanting to "kill people after the Cold War finished" I suggest you look at the people who decide when and where to send the military. I'll give you a hint, they don't wear uniforms.

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  7. Re:How does it work? by garett_spencley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One word ... autorun.

  8. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by cp.tar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Humor of all kinds (satire included) needs to have an element of truth in it to be funny. In other words, in order to find his "joke" funny, you would have to believe (on some level) that the US military really DOES go out and commit atrocities on a regular basis.

    Actually, no, you would not.

    You would merely have to know enough history to know that the modus operandi described in my post has been characteristic for invading armies since the invention of armies.
    Then you would have to notice that I actually implied that American soldiers were kind of wusses for not raping and pillaging, since all they really do is jack off to porn.

    The rest of your post I would rather not comment on in great detail; let it suffice to say that the rest of the world has a bit different view of your army. And of your country.

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  9. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by cp.tar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they abhor it so much, why the HELL did they VOLUNTEER to do it?

    Well, first of all, you only get to abhor the war as much when you've actually participated in one. Or four.

    Furthermore, some people join up in order to finance their education, hoping to hell there would never be a war they would have to fight in.

    Then again, as a Croatian citizen, I know fairly well what kind of people also joins the military and fights in wars.
    You get all kinds, and thus all generalizations are false.

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  10. That is so naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you want to meet a person who abhors war, talk to a soldier. If you want to judge someone for wanting to "kill people after the Cold War finished" I suggest you look at the people who decide when and where to send the military. I'll give you a hint, they don't wear uniforms.

    That is so naive, on so many fronts.

    The people who want war are those who profit from it, either directly in dollars, or indirectly from the political power that comes from agitation of the dumb voting public, or more simply, from leading the war machine. And yes, many of those people wore uniforms at one time, or have deep and long-standing links with the military so that they might as well be wearing uniforms.

    What you say does have some truth when taken literally, but you can't shrug off the responsibility for your government's warmongering that easily. Soldiers are the facilitators of the problem, and unless your upper ranks perform a direct veto on government excesses, then you cannot avoid the taint that comes from your actions. The excesses would not happen if you did not perform them.

    It's so easy to pass the buck, but that doesn't make it right. Nor is it correct to pass the buck, because much of the push for military action comes from the military leaders, always happy to support action that will inflate their budgets and raise their profile.

    While your grunts-eye view isn't a lie, it's highly myopic, and very very naive.

  11. Re:Thank You by plague3106 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Huh? For almost three quarters of our countries existance, we didn't have a standing army in peace time. It was only out of fear we kept one around after WW2, and I'd venture a guess that if we didn't have a standarding army the past 60 years or so, we wouldn't BE in Iraq or Afganistan right now, and a good number of other countries may not hate us as much.

    As for the literacy rate, it stands to reason you need basic reading skills to be a solider and so they either won't let you in or make you learn to read. Might as well say Hooters employs more women waitresses than any other chain...

  12. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by Marillion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As for military service, It would do most of the slashdot community some good.

    But, it comes with some very serious strings attached. I abhor the idea that killing is a solution to any problem. A soldier (or airman, seaman, marine) is given a gun. A gun is a machine designed to kill. The idea is kill your killer before he kills you. This is a morally dubious proposition and incompatible with the Christian theology I grew up with.

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  13. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by jhol13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you only get to abhor the war as much when you've actually participated in one. Are you claiming it is not enough that my parents had to live in one? Or to know how the war "works"?

    Am I not allowed to abhor natural disasters as I have not been in any?

    If they are stupid enough to enlist just to finance, well they do not deserve my "tolerance".
  14. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by cp.tar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I lived through a war.
    However, I lived in the capital, which was only a target of several air raids.
    Some of my friends survived regular bombings day after day, night after night; some of them had their parents and other relatives killed; some were re-settled or lived in camps.

    Do you think my feelings about the war are as deep and as strong as theirs?
    I'm pretty anti-war and anti-military myself, for various reasons, but I will never ever try to imagine I can feel as deeply about it as they do.

    As for financing your education... people do what they can. Or what they have to. I refuse to judge their choices as long as they act humane.

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  15. Pacifism by Perf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A gun is a machine designed to kill.

    Sorry, you are wrong. Re-read the Bible and spend time thinking about it.

    There are guns designed to punch paper. There are guns designed for hunting - killing animals.

    And then you get into the Christian policeman thing. Is it immoral for a Christian to be a policeman? Should he kill to stop a murder? Yes - It would be immoral for him NOT to.

    A soldier is much like a policeman. His purpose is to fight to end a war. (Not all soldiers fight with weapons - some are medics, etc. But all fight to bring an end to the war.)

    BTW, many people's confusion about Christian theology on this point comes from a poor translation of the 10 commandments. It's NOT, "Thou shalt not kill." It IS, "Thou Shalt Not Murder." (If you disagree, read ahead in the book - commands expressing society's duties to execute muderers.)

    1. Re:Pacifism by steelfood · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, GP can drop the "Christian" part and still make perfect sense. It's against GP's morality to kill other human beings, probably in any situation other than in self-defense (but I cannot truly speak for the GP on this matter). The military exists to do just that. Killing another person isn't a requisite to being in the military, but it is an expectation. And the other side has the same expectations as well. And if killing another person is against someone's morals (like GP's) regardless of whatever logical or illogical basis, then that's that.

      Oh, and a soldier is NOT like a policeman. Police exist to keep the peace by enforcing the laws, and provide assistance to citizens in need. In an ideal situation, police serve the public, though that isn't always true. But generally speaking, they serve the law, whatever the law might be. They are not trained to kill, and certainly not trained to survive. To claim that police and military are the same means you either have a warped sense of the place and purpose of soldiers, the place and purpose of law enforcement, or both.

      Finally, stop being pedantic. Firearms are designed for maiming and killing, be it human or any other animal. GP is not talking about other "guns". Glue guns have the word "gun" in the name too, but I'm pretty sure when someone puts military and gun together, they don't think about a nozzle that ejects a hot, sticky substance. Have you any other uses for a firearm (not explosives or some other appratus that otherwise uses explosives to propelled projectiles) besides killing or maiming? And don't tell me target practice.

      Seesh...I don't know if it's Monday or what, but the mods need to get their shit together.

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  16. Media should be passively displayed, not executed by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A lost cause, I suppose, but it seems to me that the root cause of this is a series of insanely bad decisions made by the industry as a whole and by Microsoft in particular, in blurring the line between data and programs in viewable media.

    There is no good reason why an email program should willy-nilly try to execute any attachment it sees, and no good reason why a computer should execute stuff on a DVD.

    99.99% of the time, the end-user thinks of a .jpg or a DVD as passively viewed content.

    An unholy alliance between technical sweetness (oooh, generality), possibilities for commercial exploitation (this DVD could display ads with a "buy" button on them), and DRM, has created a terrible situation.

    The mischief comes in when there are so many parties that have an interest in creating media that are not what they appear to be to the end-user.

    When the end-user thinks he's just watching something, the system should enforce the will of the user... not the will of the media provider. If the media does what the vendor wants and not what the user wants, that's a bad capability in itself--but it also is a gaping whole for malware which can subvert that capability to purposes neither user nor vendor want.

  17. Re:Sexually Transmitted Disease by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1. You can think what you want, but can you really argue that the US Army is a quality force? "Best trained" as the OP said is a little presumptuous. Israel does a damn fine job, for example.

    A well-trained force? Sure.
    Best in the world? I wouldn't really know, and I don't really care.

    2. It should be noted that you most likely live in an allied state (either a NATO country or one in the western hemisphere) OR an enemy/former-enemy state like the old soviet bloc. If you live under the latter, well, I understand why you'd say such a thing. However, if you live in the former, please consider this: The US has, for 50 years, guaranteed your safety. It may not seem like much to you. But please, consider it: We've made a treaty that says that if you're attacked by nuclear weapons that we would consider that an attack upon our own soil and retaliate as necessary.

    Since the USA is not the only country in the NATO with nuclear weaponry, do keep in mind that each of the other countries in the NATO has said absoutely the same thing.
    Frankly, if my country is attacked with nuclear weaponry, I don't give jack shit how you will retaliate; I'll have been incinerated and/or irradiated to the degree of absolute apathy by that point.

    Furthermore, during the Cold War, it seems to me that you benefited way more from that treaty; the USSR was more likely to nuke you than us. With several European nations armed with nuclear weaponry, they were much less likely to try anything.

    I don't believe in altruism in high politics; if it hadn't benefitted you and you primarily, you wouldn't have signed the treaty. Case in point: Tokyo Treaty.

    BTW, your either-or logic is severely flawed: I was born in Yugoslavia, which has since fallen apart in a nasty little bunch of nasty little wars. We were neither in the Allied nor in the Soviet block, and Croatia is only now about to enter NATO. Probably.
    Yugoslavia was Non-Aligned, which I still consider the best position in the dick-measuring contest you had with the Russians.

    In other words, we, the American People, would deliberately involve ourselves in full nuclear exchange just to protect you and your countrymen.

    Oh, puh-lease.

    It's so sad to encounter people who so fervently believe their own propaganda.

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