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HP Seals the Deal, Buys EDS For $14B

netbuzz writes "Following yesterday's spate of heated rumors, the announcement comes this morning that HP has completed a deal to buy EDS for just under $14 billion. The acquisition has been approved by the boards of both companies, according to HP. EDS CEO Ron Rittenmeyer has issued an e-mail to his employees promising that the company brand will continue and, "We are — and will remain — EDS."

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  1. Heh... by leonbev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if Digital's and Compaq's CEO's sent out a similar e-mail when they got bought out by HP :)

    Look at the bright point, guys... at least you didn't get bought out by IBM. They would have completely turned the business on it's head in a manner of months!

    1. Re:Heh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Compaq's CEO certainly sent out a similar email.

      The surviving Compaq portions of the combined company still have a lot of Compaq culture in them, but the HP culture is slowly eating that away.

      The CEO's extreme cost cutting is having an effect as well. Compaq employees used to have individual offices and free Cokes in the labs. Now we have cubes and expensive vending machine Cokes. Hell, they even took away the sporks from the break rooms.

      So, EDS folk: welcome to the company. Say goodbye to your sporks.

    2. Re:Heh... by Lord_Frederick · · Score: 4, Funny

      'Tis better to have sporked and lost than never to have sporked at all.

    3. Re:Heh... by spookymonster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your biggest issue is the loss of a few perks, sounds like the cost-cutting was targeted perfectly.

      Now if you'd complained about something that actually impacted your job performance (excessive micromanagement, armed guards outside the stationary closets, etc.), I might've felt some sympathy....

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    4. Re:Heh... by AchilleTalon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Someone can define HP's culture? Compaq's culture? Digital's culture? IBM's culture? And so on? It would be interesting to finally know if they are really so much different.

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    5. Re:Heh... by spideysense · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah because I'm sure the few hundred dollars they spent on coke and sporks in a year cut REAL deep into the $9.6billion profit from last year. Treating people like their actually human and throwing them a few tiny perks here and there goes a long way.

    6. Re:Heh... by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know that I can define the above cultures very well, but corporations do have cultures, as do brands. When I worked for Harrahs, Inc. we never said gambling even though we owned casinos. We were about responsible entertainment. We also provided a clear formula to the customers for how much "gaming" meant how many reward points.

      When we became Horseshoe, we were all about gambling, gambling and gambling. We couldn't say gambler enough. Our comping system because obtuse and complicated, and seemingly random. We actually comped less, but tried to create the image that anyone could be comped for anything. Employees were also treated better even though we basically had the same management staff all the way up to the GM of the casino, but brand and company cultures were different.

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    7. Re:Heh... by BBandCMKRNL · · Score: 4, Funny

      Someone can define Digital's culture? Yes.
      Digital - The beatings will continue until morale improves. The CEO has a reserved parking spot for his luxury car, eats lunch in his private dinning room, and a 24 x 7 security detail.

      DEC - The CEO parks his 10 year old pickup truck, the same one he uses to haul his trash to the dump on weekends, in any empty parking spot because he doesn't have a reserved one, eats lunch in the cafe like everyone else, and only has a security detail when the BoD demands it. He comes down to the hardware labs to not only admire your project but to actually understand it.

      Unfortunately, Ken didn't understand business as well as he understood technology. But then Robert Palmer didn't understand either.
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    8. Re:Heh... by Cheeko · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On the flip side for us Digital folks who had been under Compaq, HP was a return to much more what Digital was like than what Compaq was. It was kind of like putting up with 5 years of people saying "the culture won't change" while they tried to change it, to finally going back to a similar culture.

      I think more than anything it has to deal with where the companies priorities are.

      Compaq's priorities were obviously its PC business, so the Unix/Linux/VMS/etc etc folks felt like they were getting the corporate culture shaft. Then after the HP merger the culture became much more focused on services and enterprise business, so suddenly everyone at traditional Compaq felt their culture was being crushed because the focus was elsewhere.

      If HP's focus really is on growing its services, then there is a decent chance that the culture might stay fairly in tact (they want them for how they are). If instead they simply plan on using EDS as a tool for driving other business goals, then there is a fair chance of being pulled into the same corporate culture.

      As a final note as a DECPaq HPer. I much preferred HP's culture under Mark Hurd to the culture at Compaq. He's a cost cutter, but he's also made for a very efficient productive well focused company. More than Carly ever did for sure. Even HP's innovations seemed to have started coming back, with some of the recent announcements in nano computing, etc.

  2. I hope HP is smarter than GM by maurert · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an HP employee I hope HP is smarter than GM was. Remember the GM bought EDS in the 80s and EDS milked GM for all it was worth. EDS did great; GM not so. Of course GM thought it was buying a company to outsource its IT to while HP is looking to merge outsourcing operations with EDS.

  3. Yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yay! An alternative to IBM Global Services from the maker of some really good servers. Too bad it's EDS, well at least it's not Accenture!

    Go Ross Perot!

  4. So long DELL? by Quetzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Looks like HP is moving into IBM/DELL territory ( managed IT services ). I'm not too worried for IBM.

    DELL, on the other hand, has a real fight on its hands. So.. umm... Mike.. why don't you forget about your small business services crap and go back to focus on making good machines and providing good customer service.

    I don't know if EDS was the best vehicle to use, but its better than trying to setup something new.

    1. Re:So long DELL? by maxume · · Score: 4, Informative

      IBM does $54 billion in services.

      EDS does $22 billion in services.

      HP does $17 billion in services.

      Dell does $6 billion in services.

      The deal probably isn't quite about Dell.

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    2. Re:So long DELL? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It used to be that Dell sold decent computers for decent prices. They grew because they were cheaper than HP or IBM and used more commodity parts than Compaq. These days parts are getting cheaper and cheaper, and the desktop isn't as profitable due to really low margins. IBM foresaw that and sold off their PC business. That coupled with the fact that most PCs built in the last 5 years are good enough for most consumers who are not gaming so people don't need to replace their PCs anytime soon. Also, Dell has, for better or worse, tied their success to Windows. Vista now constitutes a significant amount of the cost of new PC as hardware prices drop. Even though Dell offers XP on new machines, they've already paid for the more expensive Vista (which includes downgrade rights).

      It's ironic that Dell and Apple have switched places from 10 years ago where Apple was in trouble and Dell was riding high. Apple computers are price competitive if you compare them feature for feature; it's that Apple, for most part, focuses their efforts on higher end models and laptops which have better margins and avoided the pricing wars on the low end.

      For Dell to remain, they have take some risks. I won't suggest that they sell off all the assets and give the money back to the shareholders that Dell suggested to Apple ten years ago.

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  5. The day after. by demachina · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "We are -- and will remain -- EDS."

    Until the day after the merger, the execs cache out, and the infighting between the remaining managers starts. Executives on the bottom end of the merger always do one of two things:

    - Cash out
    - Try to outmaneuver the execs on the top end of the merger and take over the whole company, with a lot of bitter intrigue in the process

    You have to wonder how current EDS customers who are attached to their non HP hardware and software will feel about this when EDS suddenly has a massive bias to drive every nail with an HP hammer.

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  6. Re:The Deal will by SimonGhent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    EDS is an anti-labor, low pay sweatshop.


    EDS is an IT services company, what else would it be?
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  7. Re:The Deal will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    EDS are a useless shower of bastards who will be first against the wall when the revolution comes. Utterly incompetent, they have an over-inflated sense of self-importance which is continually bolstered by corporations and governments who continue, against all evidence and logic, to truck huge wads of cash over to the aforementioned useless bastards who then fuck it all up and deliver shit, late.

    The UK government has already given the cunts enough of my cash that I should own a couple of EDS offices by now. Instead we've got sweet F.A.

  8. HP culture of yesteryear.. by guzzirider · · Score: 4, Informative

    I remember what HP's culture was from the perspective of a user of fine test equipment (spectrum-analyzers RF-generators logic-analyzers distortion-analyzers) including using the technical support provided by HP (after sales) and less frequently involved in the purchasing process with the sales force of HP. For me, most of this experience started in the late 70's and continues today. However what I call HP is now Agilent that in my IMHO was the stupidest spin-off in the electronics industry.

    HP was a company that would support any thing it sold even real old stuff ... including making documentation available. (service manuals with schematics may not have been free but you could get one and it was not outrageous.)

    There was always a voice at the end of the phone that was competent and could answer rather complex questions on the use and application of said equipment. (now, remember this is very post sale)

    On the Sales side, equipment would be demo-ed and lent by the most competent and professional staff in the business. I never had any one in the pre-sales for and instrument LIE to me in any way. Would gladly inform me of the limitations of there products. (And in not a to boastful way would try to point out weakness in the competition but this was from pride and not BS. Never had an HP sales rep bad-mouth Tektronix for example.

    I recently helped my wife purchase a multifunction printer from HP (LaserJet M3035 MFP). This is just big enough that these models are not stocked in stores like Best Buy, Microcenter, Frys and the like. We chose to purchase from the toll free phone number found on the HP website. The experience we had was appalling. I don't believe that I was ever told any truth about any thing during this experience. It started with slick double talk that would make a used car salesmen on the 3AM movie sick. (I already picked out the unit, and all that was needed to be done was to enter the job/sales order). The larger part of the stupidly encountered was that we were shipped 2 units (we only ordered 1). We refused delivery on the 2nd unit. Fortunately we use my wife's business American Express Card for this purchase, as far as the billing AMX fixed it. HP tried to bill us for both units, then backed off to the shipping costs .. (shipping was included in the purchase price at the time of purchases). Turned into a major fiasco .

    A friend shared with me that they believe that this is due to the Compaq sales culture that HP 'got' from the merger/acquisition. I do not know if this is true but it is a far cry from the HP of yester year.

    My last dealings with Agilent have been still good but is has deteriorated from the slandered set by the old HP.