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Hawking Searching For Africa's Einsteins

nuke-alwin writes "Stephen Hawking has traveled to South Africa in search of Africa's Einsteins. The project will create Africa's first post-graduate center for math and physics. The British government has unfortunately decided not to back the project, which is hoping to fight poverty by identifying the kind of talent that can create wealth." Neil Turok is deeply involved as well; he was recently named to head the Perimeter Institute in Canada, whose server we brought to its knees this morning.

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  1. Niel Turok by moderatorrater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Niel Turok was quoted as saying, "I'll also help defend the starving African children from rampaging dinosaurs, free of charge."

  2. Re:Brain drain, ver 0.1 by CRCulver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of people who get big corporate jobs in wealthy countries send money back to where they came from, benefitting the local economy. Go to Moroccan villages and you can see loads of fancy houses being built by people currently working in France who plan on coming home and retiring early. Software engineers from India who have come to the U.S. after training in India have gone home after a few years and founded companies with the money they saved. Cities in Romania like Cluj enjoy higher standards of living than other parts of the country because, thanks to the good education and English-language skills, people work hard abroad and then come back to indulge themselves. The list goes on and on. If you train people in a poor country, many will go and never return. However, some will make something of themselves abroad with their education and come back, which is a win for the local economy.

  3. Re:Brain drain, ver 0.1 by Morris+Thorpe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's you - and many others I'm sure.

    You don't know what it's like to grow up in an impoverished country. Hence you don't know what it's like to hurt for your country and to have a sense of duty to make it better.

    Also, just because the talent is exported, people can still do great things to enable others to become great. You see this in soccer all the time. African talent is being exported to the top clubs in Europe but many players go back home to establish soccer academies, schools and the like.

    Hats off to Hawking.

  4. Re:Brain drain, ver 0.1 by edisrafeht · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whether they go back home or not is not as important as providing the opportunity for these gifted individuals. They may still contribute something to the world, regardless of their location.

  5. Re:Brain drain, ver 0.1 by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I personally know someone who attended a good college here in the states, got a job with MS back in the late 80s/early 90s, cashed out, and moved back to Africa to found a college.

    Some people do genuinely have a feeling of responsibility.

    That aside, it is an established fact that people living outside impoverished areas send a lot of money back home. In some countries, this is the primary source of foreign currency.

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  6. Africa and its genetic diversity by crazybit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    New studies show there is more genetic diversity between humans in Africa:

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1288178
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050310103042.htm
    http://www.science.psu.edu/alert/Tishkoff1-1999.htm

    It might be easier to find a genius among very different subjects, than finding one in a group where everybody is similar.

    Hawking is a genius

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    - Human knowledge belongs to the world
  7. Re:Brain drain, ver 0.1 by the+brown+guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd hop on the first chance at a big corporate job in some other country. In my village in Northern India, more and more people are moving back to the village, after going to universities in Canada, the USA and England, and having become (relatively) rich. My dad is a first generation immigrant to Canada from India, and we are a middle class family, my dad drives a taxi (I know, stereotypical,) and my mom works in a bank. My dad just went back to India last month to build 4 3 story houses in our village, one for him (when he goes back) and 3 for his brothers and their families. A little money goes a long way in these impoverished regions, and not only does this stimulate the local economy with all the construction, but when I went there my dad paid for a year of broadband internet for the local school, and I am saving up for a dozen or so cheap desktop computers to bring there next time I go.
    The point is that when people go back to the poor areas where they or their ancestors grew up, the feel a duty to improve the quality of life for the residents there.
    The lucky few that get out, generally will try and make it easier for others to get out, and as time goes on the quality of life can only get better.
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  8. Re:Brain drain, ver 0.1 by klagermkii · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Despite how people play the "brain drain" story, how many people in any country even feel that the job they're doing REALLY benefits their country directly? Sure you may feel you're benefiting your company/boss, but your contribution feels so diluted by the time it reaches the country level it doesn't even matter.

    One can talk about "some kind of loyalty to the country" but calling that into question based on taking a overseas job because you want better pay to help support yourself and your family is utterly unfair. We all want to see our country do well, but sometimes you can help more by becoming an export that keeps paying the country back. If you want to use nonsense metrics to compare ones sense of civic duty, why don't you compare voter turnout: US voter turnout in 2004 was 56%, compared to South Africa at 77%.

    (I am South African, I have worked in the UK, I am now living back in South Africa and did bring money back.)

  9. Re:Brain drain, ver 0.1 by eennaarbrak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    O FFS, using extreme examples like Sierra Leone to generalize about Africa is just ridiculous. I live in South Africa, and there are a lot of bright people here, both South Africans and from other African countries. We need an initiative like this - if some of the people choose to leave with their skills, so be it, but many will choose to stay and apply their knowledge here. With your reasoning: Maybe the USA should stop building universities, because we all know Noth American countries like Nicaragua and Honduras are dirt poor and just a waste of any attempt at excellence.