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Anomalous Pulsar In Binary System Stymies Theorists

Science Daily has word of a millisecond pulsar in the wrong kind of binary system that has astronomers scratching their heads. According to current models of pulsar evolution, such a system should have no way to develop. The pulsar J1903+0327, which rotates 465 times per second, seems to be in a highly elongated orbit around a Sun-like star. Quoting: "Astronomers think most millisecond pulsars are sped up by material falling onto them from a companion star. This requires the pulsar to be in a tight orbit around its companion that becomes more and more circular with time. The orbits of some millisecond pulsars are the most perfect circles in the Universe, so the elongated orbit of the new pulsar is a mystery."

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  1. It's a signal from the Cheela by argent · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See what happens when real physicists write SF!

    1. Re:It's a signal from the Cheela by Vectronic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Write Said Fred... is a physicist?

      I'm too sexy for this comment.

  2. More than meets the eye? by ee_smajors · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps the pulsar is closely paired with another small star and the pair has just be captured by a larger star. Wonders never cease!

    1. Re:More than meets the eye? by Gat0r30y · · Score: 4, Informative
      The article discusses this option, and actually finds it the most satisfying explanation. -

      A third scenario says the pulsar may be part of a triple, not a double, star system. In this case, the pulsar's 95-day orbit is around a neutron star or white dwarf, not the Sun-like star seen in the infrared image. The Sun-like star would then be in a more-distant orbit around the pulsar and its close companion Most certainly a quite intriguing possibility.
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  3. Aha! by loftwyr · · Score: 3, Funny

    This will be the iron clad proof of Creationism! Only (insert your favourite supreme being here) could have put such an anomaly there!

    All hail (insert your favourite supreme being here)!

    1. Re:Aha! by argent · · Score: 2, Funny

      The FSM hates touching pulsars with his noodly appendage... he gets gravel-burns like you wouldn't believe.

  4. Re:i have nothing to say by Perseid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think it runs Linux.

  5. Re:i have nothing to say by UID30 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think it runs Linux. I dunno ... about 2/3 of the way down in the 2.6.25.4 patch notes ... yeah ... right there:

    commit f96e856cd870007bb8f344e62eff228eba3f6989
    Author: Chris Wright
    Date: Mon May 5 13:50:24 2008 -0700

            added support for elongated orbit millisecond pulsars.
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  6. Re:A simple answer by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 3, Informative

    What the heck are you talking about? If you have a positive relative energy before the encounter (which you must if you start not in orbit), you must dissipate energy in order to get captured into orbit (which requires a negative relative energy). The masses of the bodies involved do not change that simple physics.

  7. Re:A simple answer by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 2, Informative

    You miss the point. They cannot be in orbit if they started out not in orbit UNLESS there is energy lost during the capturing. This is basic physics stemming for binding energies.

    With planets, you can dissipate energy this with atmospheric drag, firing rockets (if you're a spacecraft), or three-body capture*. Only the last of these works with stars, and that's a dubious proposition since the millisecond pulsar would probably have been pretty close to its partner before the capture making it hard to strip during the encounter.

    * In the interest of honesty, tides and gravity waves might do it, too, but in practice, their timescale for action is much too long to assist a capture.

  8. Problems with kernel 2.6.25.4 by Cassini2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't think it runs Linux.
    I dunno ... about 2/3 of the way down in the 2.6.25.4 patch notes ... yeah ... right there:

    - added support for elongated orbit millisecond pulsars.

    I've been working on simulations of the 2.6.25.4 kernel running on neutron stars. Shortly after getting the 256-node Beowulf cluster simulation booted up, the cluster encounters severe gravitational disturbances. These interfere with network communications. I asked a physicist, and he started muttering something about event horizons and black holes. I think we are going to need a better patch.

  9. Re:A simple answer by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Arg, no. No, no, and no.

    Momentum is not energy. They are separate quantities and are conserved separately. The mass of the star is, as I stated earlier, irrelevant. When you have two bodies, the bind energy DOES NOT CHANGE during an interaction without some other dissipation. Gravity is a conservative force.

    Look, I appreciate that you're throwing ideas out there, but this is pretty basic physics that we have a good handle on. If you don't believe me (which is fine!), look some of this stuff up for yourself.

    Also, for the record, the star is less massive than the pulsar: the diagram of the orbits that I saw made it pretty clear that the star has the larger orbit.

  10. Re:A simple answer by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm trying to figure out what other energy would apply. It's more just an honest question (my physics is obviously more of the terrestrial sort). Would something have to shed mass or slam into an orbiting body or something similar, in order to be bound?

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  11. Re:A simple answer by Scott+Ransom · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are correct that you need a dissipation mechanism to capture a pulsar into a new orbit.

    For this system, assuming it started out in the dense stellar environment in a globular cluster, exchange encounters between multiple stars (3 or 4, i.e. single-binary or binary-binary) can provide the dissipation since the lowest mass stars (i.e. not the pulsar) tend to get energy boosts and are then ejected from the encounter. Alternatively, as you suggest, tides during a very close encounter can lead to a capture.

    However, for this system, we have reasons for thinking that a triple system origin is a better explanation than an exchange encounter and subsequent ejection from a globular cluster (all this is described in the paper which will be available on the arXiv tomorrow night and which is on the Science website now).

    Scott

  12. Re:A simple answer by Scott+Ransom · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the triple scenario you never have to capture a pulsar. You only have to have the triple stellar system survive the supernova that created the neutron star (i.e. pulsars are neutron stars) and then subsequently, one of the other stars has to "recycle" the neutron star into a millisecond pulsar via accretion. The recycling process happens when a "normal" main-sequence star evolves into a red giant and dumps its outer envelope into a disk around a companion neutron star. When recycling is finished, you are left with a pulsar-white dwarf "binary" in a close-in orbit, and a main-sequence star orbiting both of those in a much larger orbit.

    Scott

    PS: Note that there is a another slightly different triple scenario that we mention in the paper where, continuing from above, the pulsar ablates away its white dwarf companion with a relativistic wind over a billion years or so and we are left with the pulsar main-sequence binary that we apparently see now.