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What to Seek in an Older Subnotebook?

cyclomedia writes "I'm looking to buy a subnotebook. For those who think that this form factor was created by the Asus EEE (as, seemingly, does Wikipedia) it might interest you that the current forerunner in my search is a 190MHz,64MB,640x480 256 colour beastie known as the Psion Netbook, circa 2001-ish. Basically, I have a desktop, a server and an Xbox and so truly only want it for surfing, email and the odd bit of SSHing home on weekends away. The aforementioned Psion is, however, of the StrongArm processor variety, which nudges it down on the desireability meter, but the fact that there exist Wi-Fi cards for its 16-bit PCMCIA slot does score it extra points. So, anyone here got any suggestions of what to look out for on ebay? So long as I can play Doom II on it too, that is." Any other suggestions for wireless capable subnotebooks with better battery life than things like the EEE or HP's 2133 Mininote?

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  1. Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you seriously stating that you're considering a 190mhz machine, with 64MB of RAM, with a 640x480 8-bit display, as a web browser? Do you use the same web I do? Even applying CSS rules would crush that machine.

  2. why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    what do you have against the eee or 2133 mininote? you sound like you're purposely making this hard for yourself. are these old junk laptops stupidly cheap? is the eee really unaffordable for you?

    1. Re:why? by nauseum_dot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      sub-notebook- $75
      specific ram upgrade to 512 MB- $75
      battery replacement- $50
      PCMCIA 54g card- $30

      Total= $230 + 4 hours time to reformat upgrade, etc.

      I would think the EE @ $299 looks like a better buy because you also get a warranty. Let's face it notebooks are commodity goods now.

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  3. 12" PowerBook? by russlar · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had a 12" PowerBook G4 for a number of years, and would recommend it if all you need is web and SSH.

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  4. as, seemingly, does Wikipedia? by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 5, Informative

    From Wikipedia: "Subnotebooks have been something of a niche computing product and have rarely sold in large numbers until the 2007 introduction of the Asus Eee PC and the OLPC XO-1[1], which are inexpensive in comparison to both existing machines in that form factor, and computers in general."

    That sounds spot on to me. How does that sound anything like it's saying that the form factor was created by Asus? They have been around for ages, it's just in the past they either needed a special striped down OS, were incredibly expensive, had bizarre tiny screen resolutions, or they left out things like keyboards to strip them down in size. Sure NOW you can find some great second hand deals, but they couldn't have possibly been compared as anywhere on the same level in price when they were new.

    In fact, the wikipeida article looks like a great list of used models to look for.

  5. Netbook is still pretty cool, but think again! by Qbertino · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Netbook totally rocks. IIRC it has 40 hrs of uptime on a single battery load, which blows every protable PC (even the Transmeta Lifebooks pimped with Powerbattery and OD Battery) out of the water. But get your head straight about pocessing power and running some Linux derviate or something on it. That won't fly.

    Because, allthough it is a fully fletched out business system with a neat Java 1.1 enviroment on top of some custom Epoc OS (way ahead of it's time), you can absolutely forget any more that rudymentary surfing on that thing. I strongly suggest you get the brand new and super cheap One A110 and hack youself some external power option if you want to reach the Netbooks uptime.

    And, yes, uptime is what I'd be looking for in any subnote who's prime purpose is to be used for generic tasks while on the road. In that respect a Netbook really is the bar. But the One A110 and the Asus EEE are the new generation (nearly 10 years newer!) and they are actually those up to the Netbook. I'd say they've re-introduced the Handheld era. Might aswell pay that respect and get one.

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  6. What I look for in an older subnotebook... by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny
    • Likes to talk, humorous, friendly.
    • Likes movies, walks along the beach at sunset, and recharging by an open fireplace.
    • Likes cooking.
    • Has own job.
    • Light enough to carry with one hand.
    • Happy with all positions, including upside-down and backwards.
    • Color is not important to me, but dress sense is.
    • Looking for casual to long term commitment. Emphasis on fun.
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