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Why Windows Solitaire Eats So Much Time

An anonymous reader writes "This article suggests that Windows Solitaire may be the most-often played computer game. It's not so much an article about Solitaire, but rather an article about Windows and human nature and socialization. If you play FreeCell, there's a interesting paragraph about its inventor." Can Solitaire really eat up more hours than have been sacrificed to Tetris?

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  1. "Read more" by thetorpedodog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Read more from Slate's special issue on procrastination.

    Actually, I think I'll wait until tomorrow...when I have work to do.

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  2. Can It? by Vectronic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Can Solitaire really eat up more hours than have been sacrificed to Tetris?"

    On a Per-Person level, I think there are more people that have spent 20 hours in a day playing Tetris, than Windows Solitaire.

    But, I think more people play Solitaire than play(ed) Tetris, so collectively its more hours.

    1. Re:Can It? by kesuki · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Can Solitaire really eat up more hours than have been sacrificed to Tetris?"

      On a Per-Person level, I think there are more people that have spent 20 hours in a day playing Tetris, than Windows Solitaire.

      But, I think more people play Solitaire than play(ed) Tetris, so collectively its more hours. I think you missed the tag line from TFA "Chen, the company's usability research crew discovered that the three most-played computer games solitaire or something else, Microsoft or otherwise, preloaded or user-installed) are, in order Spider Solitaire, Klondike Solitaire, and Free Cell."

      now personally, i have over 13,000 games of WC3TFT, which translates to roughly 135.416*(infinitely repeating 6s) days of warcraft 3... and i know free cell is probably not even the second game, for my list, that right belongs to the first (us release) of Advance wars, with well over 1000 hours (over 41 days straight) free cell isn't even my third favorite game, I've probably only done 500 hands of it in total, but i am an atypical player.

      It makes me wonder, how exactly did Microsoft figure out which programs are used the most? does windows XP and later 'phone home' the top 10 most launched applications? if it does that, that number can be skewed, if the Microsoft coded apps are going by 'games played' using built in statistics, then how can they compare to ordinary video games that don't provide these statistics to Microsoft? after all, i would only launch wc3 once a day, and get in as many as 50 games a day... but if the statistics are of launching the application, I've known some people who 'think' they get better game hands by exiting and restarting free cell than by normal means of getting a new game...

      seriously How is Microsoft getting their numbers?!?

      * = based on an average game length of 15 minutes, but my average game length might be longer, i can't recall and the statistics are only for one season, not the whole time I've been a warcraft player.
    2. Re:Can It? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny

      There is an antidote.

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    3. Re:Can It? by leothar · · Score: 5, Funny

      You evil bastard!

    4. Re:Can It? by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But, I think more people play Solitaire than play(ed) Tetris, so collectively its more hours. That's ONLY because Windows doesn't come default with Tetris.
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    5. Re:Can It? by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny

      It used to, a long time ago... although nobody should be subjected to the horror that is Windows Tetris. ... not even my mother in-law?
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    6. Re:Can It? by slyn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You figuring that out makes me think of Xfire, which tracks the amount of time played by people who have the Xfire client installed.

      Some quick calculations using stats from the xfire site show that on today, a non-holiday sunday, approximately 44 man-years of time have been played only in the game World of Warcraft. Not to mention that leaves out all Mac WoW'ers (we do exist), and ever so rare wine linux WoW'ers. And even on top of that, all the people who did play on windows today but don't have the Xfire client installed.

    7. Re:Can It? by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought BSOD was the most-played game on Windows; it's even an exclusive that only Microsoft is able to include.

    8. Re:Can It? by kitgerrits · · Score: 4, Insightful

      seriously How is Microsoft getting their numbers?!? The few millions of gamers across the globe con't compare to the hundreds of millions of professionals that have some spare time to kill at the office.
      THAT is how Solitaire gets played.

      Also, I recall the games were added to promote hand-eye co-ordination because, back when they were written, a mouse was a novel thing to have on a computer.
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  3. If I were stranded on a deserted island... by mark-t · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and could only have one thing, it would be a deck of cards. I would start to play solitaire and eventually somebody inevitably would come along to tell me to place that red eight on the black nine and I'd be rescued.

    1. Re:If I were stranded on a deserted island... by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I could only have one thing on a deserted island it'd be a yacht.

  4. Perfect steps... by BoldAC · · Score: 4, Insightful


    People waste time because they don't know how to cheat! Here are the vista Solitaire and XP Solitaire cheats.

    Honestly, solitaire has the perfect assets to be the most popular computer game.

    1. Anybody can figure it out. My children picked it up in 5 minutes.
    2. It's available on to a huge population. Everybody with a windows box has it installed and staring them in the face. Any system is powerful enough to run it.
    3. It fills downtime while other processes are loading. Need a few minutes to download that huge iso? Heck, you can probably get in a game of solitaire!

    Interestingly enough, solitaire is probably the most popular card game as well... for similar reasons.

    "It is the cockroach of gaming, remarkably flexible and adaptable..."

    1. Re:Perfect steps... by kesuki · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Linux solitaire(AisleRiot) has everything from Agnes to Zebra! not 'just' spider, Klondike, and free cell... which windows implements through three separate executables?!? for simple card games?!? you need 3 game engines to play cards?!?! crazy man crazy...

    2. Re:Perfect steps... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Linux solitaire(AisleRiot) has everything from Agnes to Zebra! not 'just' spider, Klondike, and free cell... which windows implements through three separate executables?!? for simple card games?!? you need 3 game engines to play cards?!?! crazy man crazy...

      And the inverse to that is:
      Several small, individual, standalone files that do one thing each and do it well, vs one bloated monolithic pile o crap that tries to do everything.

  5. Re:Screw Card Games! by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess the key difference is that Solitaire and Pinball are usually found preinstalled on most systems. I find that when I'm preparing workstations I tend to leave them on there. When I walk by and see somebody playing solitaire it doesn't bother me, if I saw somebody playing the Sims or some fps there would be a problem.

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  6. Origins of Solitaire? by Eastree · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't have any proof, but I'll still tell:

    A few years ago I was cleaning out the records room where I worked. Among all the old manuals of long dead software, I found a four floppy install set of Windows 3.1 (or 3.1.1? It was a very long time ago). On its list of features was Solitaire, listed as mouse practice software of all things. Needless to say, a joke quickly circulated in the office, that we weren't playing games; we were training for better hand-eye coordination with a computer mouse.

    That aside, if anyone has an old copy, or knows of an image online, I would very much appreciate the correlation of ecidence.

    1. Re:Origins of Solitaire? by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wasn't Solitaire supposed to be showing people how to drag 'n' drop, and Minefield was to show them how to left and right click?

  7. Pack-in Tetris by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given that Tetris isn't installed on every Windows desktop...do you even have to ask? But Tetris was packed in with every Game Boy for the first couple years, as well as in the "Gamesampler" packed in with blank floppies. And I seem to remember an online version of either The Next Tetris or Tetris Worlds being packed in with some game console's online gaming kit (Dreamcast BBA? PlayStation 2 network adapter? Xbox Live starter kit? I forget).
  8. It is an addiction by CliffEmAll · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I loathe Freecell. I also play an average of 3 or 4 games of it a day. I don't think I get any satisfaction from the act of playing or from winning, but it has become the primary opportunity to shut off my brain for a moment or two between tasks. I cannot count the number of times I have opened the game, then closed it because I could find no motivation to play, then re-opened it and played a game 15 minutes later. In the meantime, I could be reading /. or wikipedia or playing a real game, but none of these other diversions quite fill the short-term, no thought required niche that the hated Solitaire game does. There is something seriously wrong with me ...

    1. Re:It is an addiction by mauthbaux · · Score: 4, Interesting

      When I was in school, i had to totally remove freecell from my computer. It got to the point where it was impacting my GPA. Yes. Seriously.

      I'd sit down to write a paper and get in a sentence or two. Just as soon as I didn't immediately know what to type in next, I'd open freecell and start a game. 2 hours later, I might have only written a few more words. It was bad enough that starting up the program became instinctive (thank you windows "most recent programs used" list). I distinctively remember catching myself on several occasions where I didn't remember starting up the game; much less what I was supposed to be doing instead. Of course, once you had started a game, you had to finish it. Heaven forbid you quit the game half way through and damage your winning streak.

      7 months without the game, and I more or less lost interest in freecell. Instead, I've ended up playing a lot of Go. (no, I'm no afiliated or pushing an agenda here; just merely admitting to my most recent game addiction.) As of yet, it's not as bad as solitaire or freecell.

      Honestly tho, I think I just feel like I need to be addicted to *something*. It would probably be World of Warcraft if that one would load up a little faster.

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  9. It's the ultimate casual game by CurtMonash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One virtue of solitaire over most other computer games is that it's not time-based. You can play for exactly as long as you want to. You don't need to finish a level in the time allotted, kill the aliens before they land, play a word before your opponent gets annoyed with you, or anything like that. You have complete control of the gaming schedule.

    One can have similar experiences from playing board games vs. computer opponents, or from the crafting aspect of MMOs. But solitaire is by far the simplest way of achieving them.

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  10. Inaccurate Summary by wbren · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you play FreeCell, there's a interesting paragraph about its inventor.
    Inaccurate! The interesting paragraph about the inventor of FreeCell is present in my copy of the article, despite the fact that I do not play FreeCell. /badjoke
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  11. George W Bush plays Solitaire? by Centurix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you think GWB has admin rights on his PC? As a system administrator, would you have the guts to remove sol.exe? If you did, would it be a unilateral decision?

    Just imagine, sol.exe could be the only thing to stop GWB from getting bored enough to push the Big Red Button.

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    1. Re:George W Bush plays Solitaire? by owlnation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you think GWB has admin rights on his PC?
      GWB has a PC? Maybe someone put a speakandspell there and told him it was a PC. But lets face it, he's going to be a 1st level IT support nightmare -- "Is it plugged in Mr President? ...etc".

      Unless there's a MS Whitehouse edition? "Who do you want to bomb today?" and "Ah I see you're trying to waterboard someone. I can help with that!"
  12. CPS can't come get them... by Chmcginn · · Score: 4, Funny

    if there's no doors in their house.

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    1. Re:CPS can't come get them... by morari · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's simply not true. They'll just teleport in and take your baby anyway. They can teleport out as well, so it's not as if you can set the house on fire in order to kill the baby and the social worker. :(

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  13. I'm ridin' spinners, they don't stop by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    One virtue of solitaire over most other computer games is that it's not time-based. Neither is Tetris. You can just sit and spin a piece forever. In fact, this infinite spin behavior has been mandatory in Tetris(tm) products since the early 2000s.
  14. Re:Screw Card Games! by DavidD_CA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Windows Vista (some versions) now comes with a quite decent Chess game.

    -David

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  15. Re:Screw Card Games! by stuporglue · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally, a reason to upgrade!

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  16. I spent 1991 playing Tetris. by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not kidding. Well, I was finishing my engineering degree, and had a frisky girlfriend, so it didn't consume all my time, but I swear every remaining waking moment was spent playing it. On my tricked out zero-wait-state 12 MHz 286. And it was the original Russian DOS-mode game, none of this crappy flash knockoff shite. I will bury you.

  17. Vista not necessary by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just grab GNU chess Windows port.

    Funny story about GNU chess.

    Back when I was in college I had two friends that were sharing an apartment. One worked in the day, the other at night. Their only communication was a chessboard on top of the TV. Each person would take a move before going to bed.

    One friend cheated. He compiled GNU chess on his Linux box, inputted the board, cranked it up to nearly maximum, and left it to calculate the next move. It would take about 10 hours or so to calculate its next move.

    He'd come home from work, make a sandwich, login and get his move, and go to bed. Needless to say he was kicking much ass, and his friend was mightily puzzled at his ability to do so.

    He finally came clean though - it was a pretty funny scene when he did. =)

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  18. MS forces name change by ChameleonDave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The really significant thing about the Windows Solitaire program is that it has probably permanently changed the name of the card game Patience to "Solitaire".

  19. Re:More truth than humor here. by cp.tar · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know why Windows still includes games, but I do know what Solitaire is awfully good for: education.
    All the computer-illiterate people I've taught found Solitaire an invaluable aid in learning how to use the mouse.

    While to us geeks, the mouse is a natural extenstion of the hand, computer newbies have a really hard time with it; instead of looking at the screen, they look at the mouse, and left and right click are higher math. With Solitaire, they get something unimportant, yet interesting to look and click at; the game absorbs them and they forget about the mouse in the hand. Minesweeper is also great, but for advanced newbies -- after they've learned the basics of mouse usage, they can achieve precision playing Minesweeper.

    For that reason, I use similar games under Linux as well when introducing newbies to the computer. First learn how to use the keyboard and the mouse, then we can get on with some real work. I found there was no use in teaching people advanced concepts when they still lose their way on the input devices.
    Kind of like teaching aphasiacs the finer points in grammar.

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  20. Re:Screw Card Games! by Imsdal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is completely false. There are 32K different "semirandom" games, and one of them is not solvable. And they are of course not "deconstructed". How would you "deconstruct" a Freecell game?
    The unsolvable game is #11,982. (And yes, I know that it hasn't formally been proved to be unsolvable, but there are a zillion solvers out there and all of them has failed, so for all practical purposes it is unsolvable.)

  21. Re:More truth than humor here. by antek9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the only ones that make themselves look bad here are the anti-twitter trolls. If you mod down bog standard, moderately insightful posts because you _think_ you know something about the identity of the poster, and completely unrelated to its contents, then my guess is that you are the one who has been played.

    As for me, I've noticed a lot of this lunacy over the last months, where posts went flamebait just for the fact that someone pointed them out as stemming from twitter, something that wasn't obvious from what the post in question was about. There are hundreds of thousands of active accounts here on slashdot, why don't you do what the rest of us do: ignore the ten or whatever twitter account's postings unless one of them posts something interesting, instead of creating tenfold more inappropriate and offtopic posts because of your little paranoia? You and your kin don't even log in any longer because you are afraid twitter will mod you down? Let me tell you something: if I had had mod points now, I would have modded you down just as well.

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