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US Data Centers Wary of Sharing Energy Data With Feds

1sockchuck writes "The EPA has been seeking at least 100 data center operators willing to share data about their energy usage to help the government develop an Energy Star program for data centers. Thus far, only 54 data centers have signed up, which suggests that few data center operators are eager to tell the government exactly how much energy they are using. The EPA issued a report to Congress last year on data center power usage, and is already developing an Energy Star program to rate servers. Can a program designed to rank the energy efficiency of appliances and computer monitors be a useful tool in addressing the enormous energy consumption of data centers?"

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  1. Re:Few? by Amouth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    saddly i know the power useage of one data center that would not be reporting in.. lets put it this way.. based on the farm usage they turn off power to other floors in the building.. not to conserve power but because the main line coming into the building is their bottle neck

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  2. Re:Few? by Thornburg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Are reasoning and math lost skills, even on a site tagged "news for nerds"?

    They are seeking "at least 100 data centers" to participate.

    It DOES NOT SAY that they asked 100. They have put out a general request for datacenters of 1000 square feet or more.

    So, out of all the data centers in the US that are over 1000 square feet, only 54 have agreed to participate. That is NOT 54/100 or 54%, it is a drop in the bucket, and it does seem to indicate a reluctance to participate. Although it could just as easily be apathy.

  3. Re:Few? by sabatorg · · Score: 4, Informative

    As someone who has worked around and at several very large data centers including those who hosted servers for ebay, google, accenture, ford, honda, etc, I would suggest that it is very likely that the "rest" have a very good understanding of how much power they consume. Floor space is only a small fraction of the processes of determining server capacity. Power and cooling are the real limiting factor in any large floor space data center.

  4. Re:Might not have anything to share by maxume · · Score: 4, Informative

    They probably still have some power bills sitting around.

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  5. Data Centers use a LOT of power! by mlwmohawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have done a number of projects for a number of companies focused on power saving in the data center.

    One company was building a fan control system to reduce the power used by cooling fans in the racks. We just had a Slashdot article about being more selective about load distribution and shutting down systems not being utilized for the load.

    Data centers use redundant power which is more expensive than line power because UPS system are never 100% efficient.

    To top it off, servers put out a LOT of heat. That is two types of load: The power draw of the server and the power draw of the data center cooling system.

    Data centers are a prime target for green work, and I bet with a little development work you could EASILY cut the power utilization by 30%. Upgrading and replacing four older machines with two newer machines will cut power usage.

    Maybe software efficiency is important again as doing more with less power is greener.

  6. Re:Might not have anything to share by penguinbrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This may be a dumb question - but what's wrong with reading the electric bill for the place? The DC's I've been in or a party too - EVERYTHING connected to the DC or in it, had a purpose solely devoted to keeping the servers up and powered, one way or the other.

  7. Re:Might not have anything to share by Enry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope you're joking

    Data centers have to know how much they're using as they have to have sufficient UPS backup to keep their systems running in the event of street power outage.

    Groups that maintain these data centers also wind up paying the electric bills, so even if they don't know how much is actually in use at ant single point in time, it's pretty easy to look at a few bills and see what the usage over the past 30 days were.

  8. Wary, or Don't Care? by scrib · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's in it for the data center? Of course they're not "eager" for new tasks on their To-Do list!

    "Hi, we'd like you to generously share some internal data and in return we'd like to give you responsibilities and guidelines about how we'll let you give your data to us! Sweet deal, right?"

    Presumably they are paying their power bills and thus have some incentive to take "reasonable" steps toward conservation. The government will need to use a carrot or a stick to coax this information from a busy business. I'm surprised simply announcing an interest in the information has netted as many responses as they've gotten.

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  9. Re:Transportation energy use is the key by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Uh, coal and tar sands are kind of a real problem as there are huge impacts on the environment both from mining them and from using them. Probably 90+% of the new capacity brought online in the last 30 years has been coal, and much of that growth has been to power electronics. Datacenters and corporate computers are a non-insignificant chunk of that. I know my datacenter for a midsized company probably draws as much power as the homes of all of the IT staff combined. Transportation is only 28% of the US energy puzzle, and as long as we keep relying on dead plants we are going to have a problem, coal that isn't used to needlessly power datacenters today can be turned into synthetic oil in the future. Hopefully not for transportation but for plastics and pharmaceuticals, where it is used as a feedstock rather than for energy production.

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