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UK Prosecutors Say 'Cult' Acceptable

An anonymous reader notes that following our discussion this week about the 15-year-old who was under threat of prosecution for calling Scientology a cult in a recent demonstration, the UK Crown Prosecution Service has decided that there is no case to answer. They have issued new guidance to the City of London police clarifying when they can use their public order powers. Quoting: "A [CPS] spokesman said: 'In consultation with the City of London Police, we were asked whether the sign was abusive or insulting. Our advice is that it is not abusive or insulting and there is no offensiveness (as opposed to criticism), neither in the idea expressed nor in the mode of expression.' A spokeswoman for the City of London Police said: 'The CPS review of the case includes advice on what action or behavior at a demonstration might be considered to be "threatening, abusive or insulting." The force's policing of future demonstrations will reflect this advice.'"

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  1. Watch out, City of London cops... by Swampash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the Cult of Scientology is about to ask for its money back.

  2. Sudden outbreak of common sense... by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every religion is a cult, just a popular one. Scientology isn't popular in any definition of the world and as such "cult" is very appropriate.

  3. Cult != Religion by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now, I'm an athiest, but I can't stand the misuse of terminology, even if it feels clever to do so.

    Cults engage in serious mind control. Religions are just a set of spiritual principles. For example, there are some Christians who worship in a cult-like society, and some that do not.

    To those who want to cite bible passages, you're missing the point. It is the current behavior of the group that defines this, not what's in their books.

    Anyone who studies scientology will know how intense their brainwashing is, and since I was once part of a Christian church that was not a cult, I know it is as different as night and day.

    Cult behavior is along the lines of 'removing subject's ego, connections outside the church, ability to question doctrine', and these factors can sometimes be found in any religion, but are not attributed to the whole set of that religion.

    Since the Church of Scientology is a hierarchal organization, it can be classified as a cult, but there are practitioners of Scientology beliefs in the 'Freezone' which do not answer to the CoS command and are not cultlike.

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    1. Re:Cult != Religion by mpe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cults engage in serious mind control. Religions are just a set of spiritual principles. For example, there are some Christians who worship in a cult-like society, and some that do not.

      Also not all cults are religious. Psychotherapy and politics can also be the basis for a cult.

    2. Re:Cult != Religion by Angostura · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you really believe this then I suspect that you have not been subjected to a "religion" firsthand.


      And if you really believe that it is impossible to distinguish between the level of coercion leveled on a member of say the UK Church of England and say Scientology hen I suspect that you have not been subjected to a cult firsthand.
    3. Re:Cult != Religion by schon · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not sure what point you're trying to make - your post is a perfect example of the difference between a cult an a religion.

      "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." This is an example of a religion. If it was a cult, it would read something like this:

      "Give me everything you have, and you will have treasure in heaven."
  4. Nice to see by CapitalC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that there is somewhere in the world where the system works rationally and figures itself out.

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  5. Scientology Tactic by EnvyRAM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Scientology doesn't really care about winning these cases. One of their tactics to cause fear and control people is by prosecuting and harassing them. This is nothing new!

  6. Re:Allah akbar by antek9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I fear that _anything_ being posted below this rather abusive first post will get modded Troll, I have to say that wasn't all that offtopic in the first place.

    Maybe American readers of this site are not that much aware of the situation in Britain, but for the last years signs held up at demonstrations asking to 'behead those who insult Islam' or for 'death to Israel' have gone 'unnoticed' by the British authorities, meaning that no-one ever got arrested for displaying them (or relentlessly shouting similar slogans). Many Europeans are already taking this as proof that Britain has finally fallen to the Islamists.

    In that light, it would have been outrageously laughable if voicing this rather common sense opinion on Scientology would have resulted in prosecution.

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