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P2P BitTorrent Tool Could Replace Pirate Bay

With the US and other G8 countries trying to outlaw The Pirate Bay and its ilk, an anonymous reader suggests that a solution may have emerged out of Cornell University. A new open-source project called Cubit is an Azureus plugin that provides decentralized approximate keyword search of torrents in the network.

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  1. Re:Kademlia by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    To my knowledge, Kademlia uses exact keyword searching, not approximate searching. While distributed hash tables are a fairly effective decentralized searching mechanism, it's tough to move them from exact-match searching to more general searching.

    Other DHT systems are also used to list peers for trackerless torrents and to find peers for particular files on networks like eMule (by searching by hash).

  2. Dupe (kind of) by Ankur+Dave · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article from yesterday about Verizon and Comcast's pledge to support Bittorrent also includes information about Cubit.

  3. Re:Gnutella by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    because bittorrent provides vastly better download speeds and reliability than gnutella. Maybe someone needs to make a torrent-tella :-)

  4. Re:Gnutella by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    * The network is much more efficient.
    * All this network is sharing is torrent metadata (.torrent files), while a BitTorrent client is doing the real transfer.
    * Their keyword searching system, while allowing for finding the k-nearest keywords, is not fully general like searches on a Gnutella-like system could be.

  5. Re:Dude. by sabrex15 · · Score: 5, Informative
  6. Re:But... by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. The decentralized-tracker problem is a ton easier than this problem, and there are already multiple decentralized-tracker solutions. Decentralized trackers are just done with simple distributed hash tables. What they've done is make a fancier DHT system for finding "near matches".

  7. Re:Self Healing by WMD_88 · · Score: 4, Informative

    John Gilmore. :p

  8. Encryption doesn't help... by nweaver · · Score: 4, Informative

    Encryption doesn't help. You can participate as clients of a swarm to get the identity of the members of the swarm, which is the information the ISPs need to block the swarm.

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  9. Re:Limewire/Frostwire? by Klaus_1250 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gnutella (LimeWire et. al) has more than one way of searching. Through Ultrapeers, Ultrapeers and OOB-replies (e.g. not routed back through Ultrapeers) and Mojito (DHT).

    Using Gnutella to search/index .torrents is already a long time feature of G2 (Gnutella 2, though it is NOT the successor of Gnutella), with Shareaza being the main client for the G2 network (along with very basic support for Gnutella, BitTorrent and eDonkey2000).

    DHT-networks can be more efficient, but they are also vulnerable to attacks and pollution and are somewhat lossy.

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  10. Re:Dude. by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Informative

    Where in the constitution is the right to file share? Constitutional law isn't my field, but saying file sharing is a subset of freedom of speech seems like a stretch. I do agree though: this is closing the barn door after the horse gets out.

    There isn't a right to share files but I'm pretty sure there's a right to free speech in there somewhere and a ban on "unauthorized information exchanges" doesn't seem very Constitutional to me.

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  11. Re:Dude. by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Informative

    Where does the constitution say we can't file share? Rights not specifically mentioned are automatically reserved to the people.

    Actually they are reserved to the States or to the people.

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

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  12. Re:Yes. What's unconstituional by Schadrach · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Bill of Rights doesn't give a list of rights you posess, it gives a list of rights that the government cannot take away under any circumstances. It's also stated in the constitution that any power not explicitly given to the federal government belongs to the states or the people.

  13. Re:Limewire/Frostwire? by Klaus_1250 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  14. Re:A poor replacement. by cavemanf16 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's called freenet, and yes, it's dog slow and no one uses it.

  15. Re:A poor replacement. by Omestes · · Score: 2, Informative

    correction: its dog slow BECAUSE no one uses it.

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  16. Re:Nonsense by Chris+Acheson · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'll certainly defend your right to keep your real property, but information isn't property, never was, and never will be.

  17. Old news by AI0867 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Tribler has been able to do this since 2006.

  18. Re:Nonsense by jim.hansson · · Score: 2, Informative

    I worked on one way back in 1998, it was used for scanning teeth.
    not the one I work on but newer and smaller http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2007/0805-digitial_dentist.htm

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  19. Re:Yes. What's unconstituional by scipiodog · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Bill of Rights doesn't give a list of rights you posess, it gives a list of rights that the government cannot take away under any circumstances. It's also stated in the constitution that any power not explicitly given to the federal government belongs to the states or the people.

    Mod Parent up!

    So many people in the US don't seem to understand this point. If they did, I personally think we'd be in much better shape overall.

    The point of the US Constitution is NOT to delineate peoples' rights - it is there to explicitly state the ONLY circumstances in which the government can infringe upon them.

    The Tenth Amendment specifically clarifies that powers that the Constitution does not delegate to the United States and does not prohibit the States from exercising, are "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    Essentially, all rights not mentioned in the Constitution one way or the other, no matter how obscure, are still in force.

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  20. Re:Nonsense by LeafOnTheWind · · Score: 1, Informative

    You are missing the point. They are not selling "digital files," they are selling creativity. The point of copyright is to preserve the intellectual property of the creators, not the physical property. Digital copies are indeed worthless, but the creativity they represent is not worthless (or you would not want it). Economics is the study of scarce resources and good musicians are a scarce resource.

  21. Then you are pretty fucking clueless aren't ya by way2trivial · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gosh- you haven't heard of it- it must not exist?

    they do-- in lots of form factors and pricepoints.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=3d+scanner&spell=1

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