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First Exotic Space Thruster Test Ends in Explosion

KentuckyFC writes "A NASA-funded test of an entirely new way to control orbiting satellites has ended with the prototype arcing dangerously and parts of the machine exploding. The new propulsion system is based on the Lorentz force: that a charged particle moving through a magnetic field experiences a force perpendicular to both its velocity and the field. So the plan is to ensure that a satellite passing though the Earth's magnetic field is electrically charged so as to generate a force that can be used to steer the spacecraft. The advantage of the idea is that it requires no propellant, which is a big deal since most satellites' lifespans are limited by the amount of fuel they can carry. But the first ground-based tests haven't gone entirely to plan."

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  1. I hope by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 5, Funny

    parts of the machine exploding.

    But the first ground-based tests haven't gone entirely to plan." Good thing they told us that... I was beginning to lose faith in their work.
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  2. Heh by Paranatural · · Score: 5, Funny

    From TFA: And as long as nobody gets hurt, a decent explosion livens up any experiment.

    I'm pretty certain this is how Mythbusters got started.

    Also from TFA: Obviously, a proplusion system that explodes while it is in operation needs some more work.

    I dunno, kinda sounds like how rockets work.

    1. Re:Heh by Arimus · · Score: 5, Funny

      And not to mention the ill fated plan to detonate nuclear bombs behind a space craft as a method of propulsion...

      (Orion programme if my memory isn't failing)

      (On that point when will which ever god or other deity is responsible for our design fix the bloody faulty memory unit and start using error correcting cells?)

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    2. Re:Heh by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a valid method...just not inside the atmosphere.

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  3. Good for them by LGV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm actually glad to see NASA doing stuff that might not work. It seems that a lot of the space work thats been happening in the last decade or two has been stuff that we know we can do. There are still failures, but those tend to be metric vs imperial units issues, not because they're pushing forward in to new areas.

    All new technology generates it's share of failures along the way. In the early days NASA blew up a lot of rockets in the process of learning to get them in to space. As long as we're using it on unmanned craft (or on the bench), a decent rate of failures is alright by me if they're learning something from them.

  4. Dirty by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd be concerned if I tested my exotic thruster and it didn't end in an explosion.

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  5. Doesn't seem like a significant setback. by Pendersempai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here is the story, based on my admittedly non-expert reading: To use the (very exciting) Lorentz steering technology, the sattelite has to have an electric charge. The method they used to obtain the charge is to apply a voltage to a radioactive substance and then allow solar wind to carry away the positive charge, leaving the sattelite negatively charged. The problem seemed to be that this process caused sparks to arc across the sattelite, which in turn damaged electronics and dislodged soldering.

    I'm not sure why this is a big deal. Couldn't they just use a different kind of solder, or at least insulate vulnerable electronics from the charge?

  6. Jazzing up the story a bit by Goaway · · Score: 5, Informative
    As much as we all like a good explosion, that summary seems highly misleading. From the abstract:

    Microscopic arcing was observed at voltages as low as -300 V. This arcing caused solder to explode off of the object. Insulating the object allowed the charge to remain on the object longer, while in the plasma, and also eliminated the arcing. However, this insulation does not allow a net charge to reside on the surface of the spacecraft. "Caused solder to explode off the object" hardly sounds like much of an explosion.
    1. Re:Jazzing up the story a bit by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh sure, it doesn't sound that impressive until you realize the entire craft was covered in a 2-foot layer of solder.

  7. Redefining your way to success! by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    A NASA-funded test of an entirely new way to explode orbiting satellites has ended with promising success!

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  8. Another variant also had problems. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Informative

    Another variant of this is to have two weights connected by a wire tether and tide-locked to the primary, so the wire is oriented at roughly right angles to the orbit. Then you put a current in the wire by ejecting electrons on one end and collecting them at the other - making it into a motor that can accelerate or decelerate along the orbit. No reaction mass, run it off the solar collectors, etc. This also ran into issues with arcing.

    They tried an experiment on this with the shuttle and a tether to a satellite they were launching, and found a problem: The motion along the orbit also causes it to act like a generator, powered by the orbital momentum. (This was known - and also has possible uses.) This produces a voltage gradient along the wire tether. So the tether has to be insulated to prevent arcing to the very low-pressure plasma that constitutes the high atmosphere and solar wind.

    What they discovered was that minute flaws in the insulation caused localized arcs to the surrounding plasma. These were powered by the orbital motion relative to the earth's field and were very intense. They quickly melted through the thin tether.

    So such a motor is not an impossibility. But it will require some heavy engineering work to get around this problem.

    (It also says that large-scale tethered orbital structures have an additional problem to be solved: Keeping the tethers intact despite kilovolts of induced voltage along the tether and the resulting arcing.)

    It's easy to think of space as filled with a hard vacuum. Unfortunately it's actually filled with very low pressure conductive plasma and near the Earth that's dense enough to be a major engineering issue.

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  9. Re:It's Rocket Science by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You certainly get bonus points for irony using an Ariane 5 as an example of a rocket not blowing up...

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  10. Re:It's Rocket Science by CCFreak2K · · Score: 5, Informative
    From Wikipedia:

    As with many rockets, the initial flights of each new Ariane model have seen failures. However, overall, the Ariane 4 and 5 are the most reliable commercial rockets ever launched. As of January 2006, 169 Ariane flights have boosted 290 satellites, successfully placing 271 of them on orbit (223 main passengers and 48 auxiliary passengers) for a total mass of 575 000 kg successfully delivered on orbit. This success rate also makes Arianespace the foremost commercial launcher; in some years, more than two thirds of all commercial satellites have been launched with the company's vehicles.
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  11. Explosions are an indicator of work by iamlucky13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The best projects usually have a development report buried somewhere in their history that contains the phrase, "...and then it exploded."

    Percy Spencer (microwave oven): "...and then the egg exploded."
    James Watt (steam engine): "...and then the boiler exploded."
    Alfred Nobel (dynamite): "...and then the nitroglycerin-soaked soil exploded."
    Vladmir Titov (Russian cosmonaut): "...and then the Soyuz rocket exploded."
    Werner von Braun (NASA engineer): "...and then the Jupiter rocket exploded."
    Yang Liwei (Chinese Taikonaut): "...and then the Long March rocket exploded."
    Sony test engineer: "...and then the battery exploded."
    J. Robert Openheimer: "...and then the Trinity device exploded"...oh wait, that was supposed to happen.

    A more personal anecdote:
    Someone in the shop at work needed a simple room-temperature dryer for a special project, so he got some large diameter PVC pipe that was handy, filled it with a desiccant, put the material in that needed drying, and screwed the cap on. Then he left it alone for a few hours.

    Apparently some sort of gas-producing chemical reaction took place, probably helped by the sun shining through the open door, (...wait for it...) and then the drying chamber exploded, blasting the plastic lid through the ceiling 25 feet overhead and covering the work bay with the tiny pellets of desiccant.

    Engineering is fun.

    1. Re:Explosions are an indicator of work by iamlucky13 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Since I basically just put words into people's mouths for a laugh, I figured I'd google up some actual quotes by these people related to their work.

      • MIT coworker on Percy Spencer: "Like Edison, he will cut and fit and try and throwaway and try again."
      • James Watt on one of his designs: "It is very defective."
      • Alfred Nobel: "If I have a thousand ideas and only one turns out to be good, I am satisfied."
      • Vladimir Titov after his Soyuz rocket exploded beneath him: "We were swearing."
      • Werner von Braun (memory from childhood): "Selecting half a dozen of the biggest skyrockets I could find, I strapped them to the wagon. It performed beyond my wildest dreams. The wagon careened crazily about, trailing a tail of fire like a comet. When the rockets burned out, ending their sparkling performance with a magnificent thunderclap, the wagon rolled majestically to a halt. The police who arrived late for the beginning of my experiment, but in time for the grand finale, were unappreciative."
      • Yang Liwei: "I did not see the Great Wall from space."
      • Yet-Ming Chiang (MIT chemist): "The unstable materials release oxygen, oxidizing other materials in the battery, which in turn produces more heat. The cycle continues in a process called "thermal runaway," which in some cases can lead to a violent explosion."
      • J. Robert Oppenheimer: "It worked."