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Ancestry Surprises From New Genetics Analysis Method

An anonymous reader commends a recently published study involving a new way to analyze genetic variation in human populations (full article published in PLOS Genetics): "[S]cientists from Ireland, the UK and the US analysed 2,540 genetic markers in the DNA of almost 1,000 people from around the world whose genetic material had been collected by the Human Genome Diversity Project. The results include a number of surprises... the Yakut people of northern Siberia were found to have received a significant genetic contribution from the population of the Orkney Islands, which lie off the coast of Scotland... there must have been a period of gene flow from northern Europe to east Asia. The study also shed light on the peopling of the Americas, as the results suggest that the native populations of north and south America have different origins."

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  1. Confirmation of previous theories by steelfood · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, there's anthropological evidence that there were several migrations from Asia to the Americas, namely, two island-hopping sea routes and one over the land bridge in the north. This just sort of confirms this idea.

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  2. Re:Maps of human travel on earth by ya+really · · Score: 5, Informative

    Probably one of the best sources I can think of off the top of my head is the book, Guns Germs and Steel. The book gives a great in depth look at the origins of man, and the crops/domesticated animals we eat as well as lots of maps showing movements through the ages. It's a pretty long read though, but well worth it. The book also goes well into why the decendants of those from Europe and Asia control the world today and not those in Africa, North America or Oceana.

  3. Re:Maps of human travel on earth by ResidntGeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    Have you checked out Movie S1 in the current article? It's an animation of how people moved based on DNA evidence.

    Also, the world didn't look any different geologically, if that's what you mean by "what the world looked like back in the ages". The timescales of human migrations are far smaller than those of geological processes.

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  4. Re:Maps of human travel on earth by BungaDunga · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except for the Bering land bridge. That's a function of sea level, but the world did look quite a bit different. Lots more ice around, less water.

  5. But other studies have shown different results. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Informative

    Extensive studies of mitochondrial DNA have pretty much confirmed migrations from east Asia to northwest America, then down south. There were, of course, more than one wave of such migrations. I doubt very much that the natives of north and south america "have different origins", because that would contradict well-established evidence that this is not so. However, they could certainly have a different mix of dna mutations showing various mixes from different areas.

  6. Re:Polynesians by hengist · · Score: 4, Informative

    > If people reached Easter Island, which is almost off the coast of South America, what would have stopped Polynesian explorers from
    > traveling all the way to Chile?

    As I understand it, current thinking is that polynesians did make it to South America, which is where they got gourds and sweet potatoes from. Then, they turned around and followed the prevailing winds home.

    Thor Heyerdahl thought that polynesians came from South America and followed the prevailing winds in migrating west. But, genetic evidence proves that they come from Taiwain. The current theory is that they explored into the wind because it gave them a free trip home if they didn't find anything.

  7. People in the Altai-Baikal Region by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 2, Informative

    The articles "mtDNA Variation of Aboriginal Siberians Reveals Distinct Genetic Affinities with Native Americans" and "Mitochondrial DNA Variation in the Aboriginal Populations of the Altai-Baikal Region Implications for the Genetic History of North Asia and America" from 2004 indicate that ALL native Americans have a single origin. I guess the controversy of single or dual origins lives on and if I understood it correctly the field is still open for reinterpretations.

  8. Re:Maps of human travel on earth by Rashdot · · Score: 2, Informative
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  9. Re:Polynesians by b4upoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Considering the remarkable ability of Chinese vessels in the era before Christ we may have Chinese settlers in early South America. Japanese vessels are another distinct possibility.
                If we go back about 14,000 years and get any good information on which of the Asian nations allowed females on board ships we might get a better clue as to early colonization. Or it just might be that only males made it to the Americas in the early days and that they bred with whatever females they could find. In that sense there may have been no distinct cultural colonies in the early times, There may have simply been accidental conglomerates of ship wrecked people combined with a few explorers who never got word back home that they had survived in the New world.

  10. Re:RTFA by notadoctor · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not trying to perpetuate a religious argument or anything, but I would just like to point out two or three things in response. First, map 34 in Figure 4 shows the Colombian people having some origin in the regions around Eastern Iran and Western India, not China. The Jewish nation was taken captive into Persia (modern Iran) circa 722 B.C. A couple of other contemporary invasions also sent descendants of Israel all over the old world. That is early enough to match Mormon scripture, though the migratory pattern doesn't match the scenario described in the book. Second, the Book of Mormon states the people described therein were of the tribe of Manasseh, not Judah. "Jew" only referred to their nationality, not their ethnicity. Third, most Jews in Israel today are descendants of the European Jews of the Diaspora rather than those present in the land of Palestine during the later Biblical periods.

  11. Re:Polynesians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Easter Island was populated 2000 years ago? I thought that had been thoroughly discredited.

    Easter Island was populated only about 800 years ago. Can't possibly have anything to do with the colonization of South America 13,000 years ago.

  12. Re:silly by DerangedAlchemist · · Score: 3, Informative

    Disease made all the difference. Europeans had gunpowder, gun, steel armor and horses over the Africans too, but Africa had it's own terrible diseases. The dominant population in Africa is still black. It's estimated that 80-95% of North American natives died from disease. For comparison, the black plague killed 30-50% of the population of Europe.

  13. Re:Most people in Taiwan are not "Taiwanese" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    They were the native Taiwanese - pretty well outnumbered now, but culture is very similar to Polynesian and genetics match.

  14. Re:silly by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Informative

    there is no evidence at all that the Chinese made it to South America before the Europeans.

    There is some suggestive evidence: the Fu Sang legends, South American folktales about "people from the sea", old stone anchors found off the Pacific coast, certain artistic motifs found in both Chinese and South American art. Joseph Campbell spends a few pages on this idea in one of the essays in Flight of the Wild Gander, but I'm too lazy to dig up my copy at the moment. I don't mean to suggest that it's a well-established mainstream theory, but IMHO there're enough hints to call it a sensible possibility.

    quite able to defend themselves against a few Chinese ships

    Just because Columbus and Company got slavery and rapine on their minds the moment they arrived, doesn't mean previous visitors did.

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  15. Re:Polynesians by Heather+D · · Score: 2, Informative

    Tonga is not very close to Easter Island. It is 'on the way' of most proposed ancient routes from Polynesia to South America though, but there is still a lot of distance between them.