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Polar Robots to Explore the Arctic

Roland Piquepaille writes "It's now almost certain that the world's ice shelves are melting. And while satellites provide lots of data about their evolution, ground-based weather stations could be even more useful. But if scientists can no longer stay on fragile and volatile ice sheets, what can they do? They can use specially designed robots called SnoMotes developed by U.S. researchers. 'The SnoMotes work as a team, autonomously collaborating among themselves to cover all the necessary ground to gather assigned scientific measurements.' More importantly, a SnoMote is an 'expendable rover that wouldn't break a research team's bank if it were lost during an experiment,' according to the lead researcher." Reader coondoggie adds a link to another story on these robots at Network World.

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  1. Polar Robots by quarrel · · Score: 3, Funny

    'cause like, polar robots have something better to explore than like the *poles* ?

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  2. Both poles? by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our bi-polar robot overlords.

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  3. Re:Extreme temperatures by Nos. · · Score: 4, Informative

    It sort of depends. If you're using the battery in the cold, it will discharge more quickly. If you're storing the battery, it will last longer in the cold. That's why those of us in a cold climate sometimes use a battery blanket (electric warmer) to keep the battery warm on those cold mornings. http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingsworkfaqs/f/coldbattery.htm

  4. Glorified Microscope by bsDaemon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A robot that goes out to collect data is just another scientific instrument to be used. Ultimately, people are still going to have to make sense of the data.

    It takes a certain kind of person to want to go out into extreme conditions to take measurements. Being able to make meaningful conclusions based on them in the field when you have other things to worry about also takes a special kind of person.

    Robots can go out, measure, and send back to you in your comfy office. The only sad thing is that we're moving towards a world of astronomers without astronauts, so to speak.

    Without the adventure there is a lot less to inspire 8 year olds -- imagine if the draw to NASA had been "hey, kids! you can wear starched shirts and use a slide rule!" instead of "you can be a kick-ass fighter pilot, get a FREE Corvette and wear an Omega watch!"

    The reality is that even the astronauts had to put on the starch and take out the slide rule, but that's not what you want to show kids up front.

    That its being shown to them now that space is mostly going to just get the machine treatment and astronauts aren't going to do much past float around not be able to go to the bathroom for a few weeks, its small wonder that the smart kids who have the wanderlust as well look at Marine Bio as the new Apollo.

    When I was substitute teaching about a year ago lots of kids wanted to be marine biologists. none of them were saying astronaut anymore.

  5. Expendable? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More importantly, a SnoMote is an 'expendable rover that wouldn't break a research team's bank if it were lost during an experiment,' according to the lead researcher."
    So, when the battery gives out or the unit breaks down they are just going to leave these things out in the environment like garbage? Plastic and old batteries? Is this a good idea?
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  6. Re:Extreme temperatures by plopez · · Score: 3, Informative

    Batteries at lower temperatures tend to have longer lives, don't they?

    Chemistry 101, lower temperatures mean lower reaction rates. Lower reaction rates mean less voltage, power etc.

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  7. "Almost certain"??? by Snocone · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's now almost certain that the world's ice shelves are melting

    Funny, that's not what the actual facts show. We're at the highest ever recorded ice cover in the Southern Hemisphere right now:

    http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot.html

    which already more than balances out the Northern Hemisphere's recent decline,

    http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/n_plot.html

    and now that the PDO has entered a cool phase,

    http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/

    it's as certain as anything to do with climate is that you're going to see that trend smartly reverse itself as well.

    Soooooo ... only for some value of "certain" which equates to "certainly not" is that a defensible statement, methinks.

    1. Re:"Almost certain"??? by Snocone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, first off, your choice is not whether to believe me, your choice is whether to believe the actual facts as observed by satellite. I'll leave that up to you.

      And, um, wikipedia may be a even-handed resource for some things, but climate change is not one of them. Indeed, in any academic setting, their conduct would amount to actionable dishonesty. Here, let us relate a first hand account of specifically contrafactual editing on their part: ... I undid Tabletop's undoing of my edits, thinking I had an unassailable response: "Tabletop's changes claim to represent Peiser's views. I have checked with Peiser and he disputes Tabletop's version."

      Tabletop undid my undid, claiming I could not speak for Peiser.

      Why can Tabletop speak for Peiser but not I, who have his permission?, I thought. I redid Tabletop's undid and protested: "Tabletop is distorting Peiser. She does not speak for him. Peiser has approved my description of events concerning him."

      Tabletop parried: "We have a reliable source to this. What Peiser has said to *you* is irrelevant."

      Tabletop, it turns out, has another name: Kim Dabelstein Petersen. She (or he?) is an editor at Wikipedia. What does she edit? Reams and reams of global warming pages. I started checking them. In every instance I checked, she defended those warning of catastrophe and deprecated those who believe the science is not settled. I investigated further. Others had tried to correct her interpretations and had the same experience as I -- no sooner did they make their corrections than she pounced, preventing Wikipedia readers from reading anyone's views but her own. When they protested plaintively, she wore them down and snuffed them out.

      By patrolling Wikipedia pages and ensuring that her spin reigns supreme over all climate change pages, she has made of Wikipedia a propaganda vehicle for global warming alarmists...


      http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1

      A less reliable source of information would be harder to imagine, friend. Even if you refuse to look at the actual facts as I do and I suggest everyone else does, you really need to find an authority to mindlessly follow -- since that's your thing and all -- that at least makes some pretension to actual scientific process.

  8. In related news... by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Cartesian robots are angry about being passed over for these jobs without even being considered.

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