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Apple's Mac OS X 10.5.3 Has Landed

jaymus of dawning writes with word that, as promised, "Apple has just released the latest major revision of OS X. The update yields improvements to tons of system components and applications including the Software Update system, Address Book, AirPort, Automater, iCal, iChat, Mail, Parental Controls, Spaces, Time Machine and VoiceOver. This release contains 200 bug fixes from 10.5.2. See Apple's release page for all the delicious details."

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  1. It's 9D34 by TJamieson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just like yesterday's test build.

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    1. Re:It's 9D34 by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Updating for those of us at work:

      I'm still at work but I'd like to come home to a freshly updated system, you can do system updates over SSH.

      >sudo softwareupdate -i -a
      Software Update Tool
      Copyright 2002-2007 Apple

      Downloading Mac OS X Update 0.
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      Then it'll install and you can do a
      > sudo shutdown -r now

      Hurray for BSD underpinnings.

  2. Now, like all updates by oahazmatt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now, like all updates, I'll wait a week to make sure there are no serious problems. (For those of you still in disbelief, yes, Mac systems do have their share of problems. Like pesky system updates that may or may not allow you to boot into your OS. I forget which revision that was.)

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    1. Re:Now, like all updates by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hang around in #MacOSX on Freenode for the next week, I guarantee you will see hosed systems :) (And not just from random people popping in, regulars will be hit as well). Happens every release.

  3. freakin scary, that was by Gewalt · · Score: 5, Informative

    During install, my MBP restarted an additional time or two. I thought for a minute there that I was gonna have to restore from a week old super dupe. Alas, on the third startup, it actually started.

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    1. Re:freakin scary, that was by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 4, Informative

      During install, my MBP restarted an additional time or two. I thought for a minute there that I was gonna have to restore from a week old super dupe. Alas, on the third startup, it actually started. Well, the update was 420mb; it's understandable that you'd need to wait a little for the smoke to clear :P

      Kidding aside, this is semi-common with OS X updates. Usually if it doesn't require an extra reboot, the reboot it does do takes a few extra minutes. I'm guessing that since this update is
    2. Re:freakin scary, that was by dal20402 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The first dual reboot I remember was 10.4.3 on a PowerMac G5.

      Both multiple reboots and extra-long initial boot times are very common after 10.x.x updates. Apple should do a better job of publicizing their existence. After every single one I see a bunch of posts like "OMG! My computer took three minutes to boot! This new OS is t3h sukc!"

      (Not that I ever understood the obsession with boot time, either. But it's amazing how many people shut down the machine every single time they stop using it.)

  4. No Server version yet by audunr · · Score: 5, Informative

    10.5.2 Server has a show-stopper bug with AFP/Open Directory which gradually makes authentication impossible. Gradually, you get no file access, no VNC, no SSH and in the end you cannot log on locally with an attached screen and keyboard. The issue has been heavily discussed at http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1251475&tstart=0

  5. Re:Service Pack 3 by SageinaRage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You prefer your bugs to go UN-fixed?

  6. Re:Service Pack 3 by oahazmatt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm hardly stating the popular opinion, but vista only has 1 service pack so far... and osx has 3 - and the hardware to run osx is much more expensive, but virtually the same. (then again, at least it is OSX-ready) Actually, I don't know what it is you're trying to state. Yes, Vista only has 1 Service Pack out. This is the third revision for OS X. These revisions acknowledge bugs or imperfections with the system (in my philosophical opinion, nothing created by a human [a flawed being] can be infallable) and tries to improve the imperfections and fix the bugs.

    Why would this be a problem? I'd rather my OS manufacturer pay attention and regularly release updates rather than stockpile them for a rainy day (never used XP at home, so I'm not sure how MS does the Windows SPs).

    If you're going to judge an OS by the number of service packs released, it can go both ways. "Oh, this one only has one service pack, it must be really stable." -- "Oh, this one only has one service pack, this other company must pay closer attention to bug reports".
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  7. Re:Retardedness by Poltras · · Score: 4, Informative

    You know they actually fixed the dock folder problem, right? If you right click and check "Display as Folder", it shows as the icon of the folder itself. You can then choose the icon of the folder itself to fit your needs. It's been there since at least 10.5.2.

  8. Re:Retardedness by oahazmatt · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you right click ... Hey, now! Shhh! Don't let them know we've been able to do that.
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  9. Re:Still No TimeMachine On Remote Drive by raddan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just use SuperDuper!. Their Smart Update feature is fast enough that taking the 15 minutes out of your day to do a backup is relatively painless.

  10. Re:Still No TimeMachine On Remote Drive by GalionTheElf · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you mean remote as in a share on your network, you can enable using Time Machine on SMB & NFS shares by entering "defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1" in a console.

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  11. Supported from the start by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually ever since the release of Leopard you could use Time Machine on a network drive, as long as it was shared by another Mac.

    You mean a standalone network drive, and that need is supported by Time Capsule.

    Or you could create the TM volume on a disk attached to your local system, then put it up on a network shared device (like attached to an Airport).

    Or you could use any number of workarounds to allow you to use the remote system as a TM drive...

    It's not like there are not options, some of them even Apple supported, and many of them working ever since TM was out.

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  12. This pretty much fixes Spaces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Leopard's Spaces had been criticized for making it hard to organize virtual desktops by task rather than by application (for example at http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/why_apple_spaces_is_broken and http://www.dribin.org/dave/blog/archives/2007/11/13/spaces/).

    10.5.3 seems to address most of these criticisms with two small changes: Command-Tab now tries to find application windows in the current space before switching spaces, and there's a new preference to not switch spaces at all when switching applications.

    This makes a big different in the usability of Spaces!