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Microsoft Urges Windows Users To Shun Safari

benjymouse writes "The Register has picked up on a recent Microsoft security bulletin which urges Windows users to 'restrict use of Safari as a web browser until an appropriate update is available from Microsoft and/or Apple.' This controversy comes after Apple has officially refused to promise to do anything about the carpet bombing vulnerability in the Safari browser. Essentially, Apple does not see unsolicited downloads of hundreds or even thousands of executable files to users' desktops as being a security problem." Now while downloading a hundred files to your desktop won't automatically execute them, Microsoft's position is that a secondary attack could execute them for you.

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  1. Re:Wow. Just wow. by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple just needs to turn the tables and tell people to shun IE and use Firefox/Opera/what have you, is all. Or, maybe, you know, fix their security holes.
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  2. 1, 2, 3 ... SHUN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow. Have to admit I'm on Microsoft's side here. Let's see:

    1. automatically download browser as an update whether user likes it or not;
    2. have the audacity to set the browser as default, again whether the user likes it or not;
    3. introduce vulnerability;
    4. ...
    5. errr, no.

    It's not just the vulnerability that hurts, but the compund bullshit caused by Apple's -- rather arrogant -- actions. This reads like something Microsoft would do!

    Also, vulnerabilities in Apple software (and this bug affects both Windows and Mac), make all *nix stuff look bad: watch MS shills roll out the 'Microsoft software is only vulnerable because hackers target it' FUD in short order.

    Posting as AC due to Apple fanboy-mods. Modding this down doesn't stop it being the truth.

  3. Re:Wow. Just wow. by erikina · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because they don't give you permission to? And even they did, no one would bother without the source.
    I think that anyone who gives a shit, has moved away from proprietary web browsers. (And yes, I'm aware their rendering engine is under GPL as it's based on KHTML or w/e)

  4. Re:Wow. Just wow. by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or, maybe, you know, fix their security holes. It's Apple. By definition anything they make is perfect in any conceivable way. If Safari allows forced downloads of thousands of executables, then it is because all web clients really should, and Apple is the only company with the vision, the foresight, and the polo sweaters to implement it. Just ask any Apple fanboy in your neighbourhood; he'll tell you.
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  5. Re:Accidentents. by dfm3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With hundreds of files on your desktop, what are the odds you'd hit one when you are just blanking out a selection, or deleting them, or frustratingly smack your mouse for [whatever reason] Or, even worse, on purpose.

    First, imagine how many people would just blindly click on a new desktop icon just to "see what it does".

    Second scenario, most Windows users I know keep file extensions off by default, and keep dozens of shortcuts to executables on their desktop among various folders, downloaded files, and other clutter. Now what if the downloaded file were named "safari.cgi" or "iTunes.cgi", but all the user sees is Safari with a generic file icon. I know many people who would think, "hmm, the icon to my internets is messed up" and click it anyway.
  6. Re:first! by tubapro12 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've already started exploiting this!!

    <?php
    if(strstr($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'],"AppleWebKit")) {
    /* print a file to the desktop exploiting safari */
    header("Location: http://mozilla.mirrors.tds.net/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0.0.14/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%202.0.0.14.exe");
    } else
    if(strstr($_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'],"MSIE")) {
    header("Location: http://getfirefox.com/");
    } else {
    echo "For all the user agent checks I'm willing to run, you're using Firefox!";
    }
    ?>