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The One-Use, Self-Destructing DVD Returns

BonrHanzon writes "Looks like DivX (the stupid one, not the codec) has been resurrected in the form of Flexplay. Staples will be selling these movie disks for 5 bucks a pop at the checkout counter. The disks can be played in any DVD player, but a special adhesive will render the disk unplayable 48 hours after the package has been opened. As if our landfills weren't already overflowing with enough crap." The blog post notes that Flexplay has actually been around for 5 years; the Staples distribution deal is what's new.

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  1. Heh, pirates ahoy! by Xtense · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Buy cheaper disposable movie.
    2. Rip it to harddrive.
    3. Dispose of movie.
    4. ???????
    5. PROFIT!

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    1. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you are going to pirate a movie, don't tip-toe around it. Just download the thing from the Internet.

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    2. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by mybadluck22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1. Download movie for free

      2. Keep movie forever

      3. There is no step three.

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    3. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good point, because the Federal government just hates prying into what we do in the privacy of our own homes.

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    4. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Auckerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's the funny thing. You OWN a copy of a defective movie. You have every right to back it up before it can no longer be read. It's not a rental, it's a purchase of a self destructing disk at a reduced price. In this case, it's not pirating.

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    5. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by venicebeach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't you still have to decrypt it, violating the DMCA to copy it? Or is DeCSS legal nowadays, I haven't been following this....

    6. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Ramze · · Score: 1, Insightful
      It's possible that the movie theater may go the way of the dodo just like the drive-in theater. Big-screen TVs and X.1 surround sound systems are becoming the norm in houses. I have several family members with literally home theater systems. I mean they have a place in the house with rows of couches and chairs, excellent lighting and sound, a huge TV -- either plasma, LCD or a projector, and even a little popcorn machine and lighting strips lining the hallway to the room. The walls even have carpet and/or drapes and have soundproofing.


      It may be a while before the average person has that setup, but... just imagine people never dreamed we'd have televisions and computers in every room. I prefer to watch movies on my home theater system. It's a lot cheaper for 5-10 of my friends to chip in for a rental DVD than for each of us to pay for movie tickets these days.


      I'd argue that no one forced you to download illegal content, but why bother. Just FYI, Hulu.com and others offer movies online for free with limited commercial interruptions and decent quality. I'm hoping that trend continues.

    7. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by drsmithy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It may be a while before the average person has that setup [...]

      I'd be inclined to say the average person will never have that setup, if for no other reason than the space constraints - most people don't live in houses big enough to dedicate a whole room just to watching movies (to say nothing of those living in apartments).

    8. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I also hear some people also have entire rooms in their house dedicated to the preparation of food - and even a separate room where they eat it, complete with sets of chairs situated around a table. Surely the end of the restaurant as we know it.

    9. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Xiaran · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Going to the movies may or may not survive but I dont think technology will necessarily have much to do with it. After the introduction of the TV there was a massive plummet in movie going. However it eventually rebounded to the type of situation we have today. People dont go to movies just to watch the movie. They go for a night out of the house, to socialise with friends and a bunch of other reasons. Just becuase you have the greatest home movie system ever... sometimes its nice to get out of the house for a few hours.

    10. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Big-screen TVs and X.1 surround sound systems are becoming the norm in houses.
      You have a very narrow view of "the norm".
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    11. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by theheadlessrabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > my grandchildren, his grandchildren
      you fail at English. actually, I teach English.

      The English language has no central authority to decide what is and is not correct, all it takes is for me to tell enough students one thing, and it will catch on and become part of the language!
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    12. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Tell that to Autodesk. They just lost a suit where an Ebay Power Seller was re-selling their apps. If I recall correctly, the Judge looked beyond the POS EULA to reasonable action. The software was purchased - not leased - from a brick and mortar retailer in most cases. That their EULA suggested that Autodesk still owned it, that just didn't fly with him.

      You buy something, it's yours. Under fair use, you can even back up the things you own once for archival purposes.

      Besides, I'm sure we can find uses for these new 'disposable' discs before too long. How about a meccano robot made primarily of these useless DVDs?

      This message will self-destruct.

    13. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Icarium · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a lot cheaper for 5-10 of my friends to chip in for a rental DVD than for each of us to pay for movie tickets these days The mind boggles. You'd spend $thousands (if not $tensofthousands from the sound of it) to have the setup you want for watching content, but actually paying for content (without which your fancy setup is a waste) is a serious financial concern?

      Granted, there is a lot of other content you could be watching. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
    14. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by SkyDude · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you remember the "Back To The Future" movie, when Marty mentioned his family owned two televisions, his then-child uncle says "wow, you must be rich!" Today, multiple TVs are the norm.

      Certainly, many people will never have or want a room where the primary purpose is to display a large screen and 6 channel surround sound. But, as history has shown, designers adapt to the wishes of home buyers by tailoring room designs to contemporary needs. By and large, homes built in the last five to ten years now have larger rooms than homes built in the 70s and 80s and even early 90s.

      At some point in the future, all 4:3 televisions will be gone and the flat screen will be as standard as the 4:3 tv has been. It may take 15 to 20 years or more, and even longer before the housing stock has accommodates the larger flat screens, but it will happen.

      Every home had a fireplace at one time, but with the development of central heat, the fireplace has become an accessory rather than a necessity.

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    15. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by TravisO · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well as soon as you show me the contract I signed, I'll abide to it. Until that point, I haven't agreed to anything, neither verbal nor with my signature.

    16. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by xappax · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When you go to that much trouble, it's not about enjoying good movies, it's about having all that stuff. You can see the same behavior in a more extreme form with audiophiles. They're unable to thoroughly enjoy music unless it's on a sufficiently expensive, elaborate sound system. And it's not because the music is more beautiful, it's because having all the "perfect" equipment and the knowledge that you're playing the music "as it's meant to be played" is satisfying in itself.

    17. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by jcrousedotcom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think it's all about the 'experience.'

      Last Friday I sat in 95+ heat and 90%+ humidity to watch the Florida State Seminoles in their first game of the College Baseball Regionals.

      Sure, it would have been much better to watch it on TV with a cold beer in my hand, but there is just something to be said of going out to the actual event and seeing it live.

      I dunno, call me crazy, but life is meant to be lived, not watched on TV.

      Just my 2cents. :)

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    18. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by SBrach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      70" flat screen TV - $10,000
      7.1 Surround sound system - $5,000
      Theater style seating - $10,000

      Making 5-10 of your closest friends chip in on a four dollar dvd rental....Priceless!

    19. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by Sloppy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Despite paying for it, and everyone other than the "MAFIAA" treating it like it was a "sale",

      Don't forget that they also advertise it as a sale. "Own it now on DVD" are their words; I didn't put it in their mouths.

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    20. Re:Heh, pirates ahoy! by The+Taco+Prophet · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Absolutely... it's the experience that drives me to or from the theater.

      When I go into the theater, my shoes stick to the floor, my seat is almost invariably worn out to the point of discomfort (and I have to try not to think about what filth might be in the cushions), and then I get to try to watch the movie while people run their mouths, talk on their cell phones, and shine laser pointers at the screens.

      Thanks... but no thanks. My home set up isn't anything nearly like a home theater, and falls well short of the ideal theatergoing experience... but the ideal theatergoing experience is a myth as far as I can tell. I can actually enjoy the movie at home, and for bonus points, it's far, far cheaper. It was frustrating as hell waiting for the movies I wanted to see at first, but now that I'm months behind the curve, it's not so bad.

  2. Why? by jcd2025 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would anyone do this when you can usually rent it for a week cheaper?

  3. $5 disks? by Spacejock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here in Australia they're selling once-mainstream DVDs for $6-$8 all over the place. If shoppers would just exhibit a little patience instead of rushing out to buy the latest shiny, they too would benefit from the eventual lower prices.

    I saw the first full page ad for Blu-Ray disks in a supermarket catalogue today. If the shops keep pushing those, DVDs are only going to get cheaper and cheaper.

  4. A diskful of masochistic goodness by debatem1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These things positively scream "rip me! rip me!"- and if they came with that right, I'd probably buy them just to save me the trouble of downloading them. Until then, sorry guys, combining the shoddy packaging of a pirated copy with the transience of a rental is pretty much a prescription for failure.

  5. Re:Landfill fodder by Tuoqui · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes... After all it didnt stop the oil industry why should it stop the MAFIAA?

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  6. Re:They Are Recyclable by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Flexplay® discs are fully recyclable and conform to all applicable EPA environmental standards. Flexplay has partnered with GreenDisk and local environmental organizations to develop several closed-loop recycling options to test with consumers. As distribution of Flexplay discs increases, Flexplay will continue to work proactively with content providers and recycling partners to broaden the collection and recycling program."

    Read: technically, we could recycle them, but this has not been important enough for use to develop. We have not come beyond some pilot programs that could have been tested by consumers if we bothered to actually implement them. We will keep telling you the discs are recyclable till people notice we're not actually recycling them.

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  7. This is going to work... by Firas+Zirie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, so you want me to pay you $5 for something that will self destruct in two days? Sure I'd be glad to... NOT! Who the hell came up with such a stupid idea? Why on earth would I buy this piece of crap when I can rent a DVD for less than that? This shouldn't even be legal and if it is then humanity is more screwed up than I thought.

    1. Re:This is going to work... by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why on earth would I buy this piece of crap when I can rent a DVD for less than that? This shouldn't even be legal and if it is then humanity is more screwed up than I thought.

      So you're saying that having a less-than-brilliant business model should be illegal? As in, Congress or state legislature should pass a law banning bad business ideas? If so you're just as screwed up as this FlexPlay crap.

  8. Re:They Are Recyclable by millwall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Flexplay® discs are fully recyclable

    To add to your point, just because something is recyclable does not mean there are no energy costs to recycle.

  9. Re:How's that different from... by zakezuke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, how's that different from...

    1. Rent movie.
    2. Rip it to harddrive.
    3. Return it.
    4. ???????
    5. PROFIT! You get a case with what I presume has a decent cover.

    Rental $2.50
    Longbox $.50
    Photo paper $.25
    Ink - $.75

    To copy a rental could easily cost you $4. For an extra $1 I presume you get the case and cover. That's not so bad.

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  10. Ah, good old NewSpeak by BenBenBen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "FlexPlay"

    No flexibility, and after 48 hours no play!

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  11. I don't understand all the eco-fuss... by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is a disposable DVD different than all the water bottles, plastic bags, yogurt pots, polystyrene trays, etc. that are currently being dumped by the trillion?

    This is a drop in the ocean compared to that. Heck, the snack foods consumed while watching the movie will probably create more garbage than the DVD.

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    1. Re:I don't understand all the eco-fuss... by value_added · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Thing is, the most eco friendly option is not always what people would guess ... sometimes it's quite counter intuitive.

      Perhaps, but I think the core of your argument mostly relates on energy usage in the context of manufacturing.

      Plastic cups, hell, plastic anything is nasty, all the way from getting the oil out of the ground to the disposed of product living out its days in our environment. There's next to nothing you can do to change any of that, save for what are, at best, superficial feel-good mitigation schemes (use less, recycle to the limited extent it can be recycled, mix with other less nasty materials, try to keep it out storm drains to avoid danger to wildlife, etc.).

      By contrast, the issues associated with a ceramic cup (from birth to death), can be mitigated, or eliminated altogether in some cases. The fact that you can bury the thing in your garden and have life go on just fine shouldn't go unnoticed, or that the regular use of a ceramic cup encourages the exact opposite of everything a disposable culture encourages, awareness, re-usability and thrift, among them.

      Personally, I think we should all refrain from offering any arguments in favor of plastic. That may sound absurd, but the effect of all the "plastic cups don't require soap and water" type of arguments is that people invariably take them as license to stop feeling guilty and continue doing what they were already doing. Which is what got us into the mess where we are now.

  12. Re:Of all the reasons this is dumb... by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...the submitter picks up on the worst one. There's plenty of landfill space. That doesn't mean we have to go and waste it all right now...
  13. Re:Advantages over rental by thelamecamel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The environmental damage from creating/disposing of the self-destructing DVD is probably actually less than that from driving to the video store to return it.

  14. Re:They Are Recyclable by Eivind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Indeed. Ultimately -everything- is recyclable. Every atom in every product could, in principle, be used for a new product. If that is -practical- or -cost-effective- or even environmentally friendly is a completely different question. (if the recycling requires lots of energy and nasty chemicals, it may be that it's a net loss to do it)

  15. $5 for a movie that last only 48 hours by aplusjimages · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's kind of steep. I can get $5 movies at the bargain bin at Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc. Or I can rent a movie from Blockbuster for $4 and keep it for 2 weeks. Or I can use netflix and rent a bunch of movies for $10 a month, or I can download it from Xbox Live. There seems to be better alternatives to watch a movie.

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  16. what a tremendous waste of hazardous materials! by DragonTHC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really hope someone sues the company responsible for putting all of these toxic chemicals into landfills.

    and yes, discs are made with toxic chemicals.

    This is just a horrible waste of resources. Especially when the content could be distributed in harmless electron format.

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  17. $5 by Floritard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So what they're really saying is that they can profitably manufacture, distribute, and sell DVD movies for the low price of $5, even after paying some company to add their technology to the disc which not only doesn't enhance the consumer experience, but seriously degrades it. So why do they charge $20 for the other discs again?

    1. Re:$5 by Keychain · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because people are buying them

  18. Re:Cheap Hack Workaround by The+FNP · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, wouldn't you be making a backup copy in case your original stops functioning. IANAL, but wouldn't this mean that the DVD that you would burn as a backup count as your legal copy of that media? --The FNP

  19. Companies should be forced to pay for waste by Chuckles08 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, I've been thinking of this idea to help reduce this kind of landfill-feeding stupidity. What about a scheme where companies are forced to pay a tax on the percentage of a product they produce that is not recyclable. For example, let's say a DVD is 100% non-recyclable. The company would then have to pay an n% tax on 100% of their selling cost (or some similar scheme). Sure, they could pass the cost on to customers, but companies who made "greener" products could then sell for less. What say ye?

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  20. There seems to be a large hole in this concept? by kingsack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1) Open self-destructing DVD 2) Spray said DVD with something that prevents oxygen from reaching the disk, cheap hairspray seems like a good candidate here but there are probably even better materials that could be used. 3) Your self-destructing disk fails to degrade? This is aside from just ripping the, of course. And perhaps you could then return it demanding a refund because it was defective, it failed to seld-destruct!

  21. Re:Cheap Hack Workaround by nickhart · · Score: 2, Insightful

    An earlier poster suggested spraying, boiling or doing something to treat the "DVD" to keep it from decomposing. Assuming something like this is possible, is that a violation of DMCA? I mean, is spraying a special coating on a digital reproduction hacking? Are we going to have "intellectual property" owners lobbying Congress to plug the "hairspray hole?"

    At what point do we as a people say enough? It's time for these dinosaur media conglomerates to die out already. They don't make art and music. They don't provide a useful service to society (certainly not for the outrageous profits they rake in at the expense of both consumers and artists). A long time ago when distributing film and music was a comparatively enormous and complex undertaking these businesses may have had a use. Today they merely serve to stifle creativity, exploit artists and gouge consumers. We don't need them.