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Object Defies Categorization As Planet or Star

Kligat writes "The COROT project of the French Space Agency has detected an object described as defying categorization as a planet, star, or brown dwarf. Although only 0.8 times the radius of Jupiter, it is over 20 times as massive, giving it a density twice that of the metal platinum. If it is a star, it would be the smallest of those ever discovered."

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  1. Um... by IronMagnus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats no moon...

    1. Re:Um... by rk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cue the Death Star references in 3... damn! Late to the party again!

    2. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      To replace a lot of "funny" tags on post there should be a new categorization called "obligatory."

      Because I, for one, welcome our new obligatory overlords.

    3. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thats no moon... How do you know that? It could easily have been a planet and a lot of heavy moons. That would explain why the planet has a low visible cross section but a high apparent mass.
  2. Thats no moon ... by hostyle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eh. how about calling it "large dense object in space" also known as The Shatner

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    1. Re:Thats no moon ... by TigerNut · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have mod points, but there is no category for "oddly appropriate gratuitous abuse". Whadya think?

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    2. Re:Thats no moon ... by BlueStrat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Eh. how about calling it "large dense object in space" also known as The Shatner

      Or how about just "Shat" for short?

      [Father O'Flannery voice] Aye, ye'll be burnin' in purgatory fer that one, me boy-o! [/Father O'Flannery voice]

      Sorry.

      Really.

      Strat

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  3. How massive by powerlord · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oddly enough, the interstitial ad for this is for "Mass Effect"

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  4. Chuch Norris by Swizec · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only Chuck Norris could ever be denser than platinum, so this is either him or soon getting destroyed because only Chuck Norris can defy the laws of physics.

  5. The Great Evil? by fitten · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quick... somebody run find Leeloo...

    1. Re:The Great Evil? by ChowRiit · · Score: 2, Funny

      We don't need to worry until it rings Bill Gates...

  6. Brown Dwarf... by OMNIpotusCOM · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...needs classification badly

  7. It's a Dwarf! by flaming+error · · Score: 4, Informative
    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_dwarf:

    Brown dwarfs are sub-stellar objects with a mass below that necessary to maintain hydrogen-burning nuclear fusion reactions in their cores, as do stars on the main sequence, but which have fully convective surfaces and interiors, with no chemical differentiation by depth. Brown dwarfs occupy the mass range between that of large gas giant planets and the lowest mass stars; this upper limit is between 75[1] and 80 Jupiter masses (MJ). Currently there is some debate as to what criterion to use to define the separation between a brown dwarf from a giant planet at very low brown dwarf masses (~13 MJ ), and whether brown dwarfs are required to have experienced fusion at some point in their history. In any event, brown dwarfs heavier than 13 MJ do fuse deuterium and those above ~65 MJ also fuse lithium.
    1. Re:It's a Dwarf! by PakProtector · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Dear Gods. Maybe it's a black dwarf. A dead star that burned through all its nuclear fuel long ago and has since cooled.

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    2. Re:It's a Dwarf! by Goobermunch · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If it is, we're going to have to reevaluate the age of the universe.

      Theoretically speaking, it should take longer than the current estimated age of the universe for a star to go through the evolution to red giant to white dwarf to black dwarf.

      If it is a black dwarf, that'd be flipping cool.

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    3. Re:It's a Dwarf! by statemachine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe it was married.

  8. Well, if it's not quite huge, but by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Informative

    And bigger than a burning Uranus, call it a stanet, or a plar...

    Actually, I was trying to be silly with Spoonerism, but, upon checking Google, sure enough, it has been done:

    http://www.futuresoon.com/2008/04/six-for-science_11.html

    And, done here, too:

    http://uplink.space.com/printthread.php?Cat=&Board=sciastro&main=570057&type=thread

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  9. Re:Sorry... by Nos. · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nibbler?

  10. Re:it's dark matter by ChowRiit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We've searched for large, dense objects that create dark matter (MACHOs) with microlensing, but there aren't nearly enough. Combined with some other properties of dark matter observed in other galaxies, where it appears to be distinct from normal matter, we're fairly sure now that it's small particles with a mass, such as neutrinos or some as yet undiscovered particle (WIMPs). Wikipedia will probably tell you more.

  11. Re:Sorry... by Tr3vin · · Score: 5, Funny

    My bathroom broke on an interstellar sight-seeing trip and I had to go real bad... That had to hurt. The object is much larger than Uranus...
  12. FWIW: IANAAP by Goobermunch · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except that Dark Matter as we currently understand it is not simply matter that's "in the dark." Under current cosmological theory, regular baryonic matter, makes up only a small fraction of the universe, with dark matter (i.e., non-baryonic matter) making up some of the rest and dark energy making up approximately 70%.

    So while this object contributes to some of the missing mass in the universe, it's probably not the kind of thing that properly would be called dark matter.

    --AC

  13. And the possible other exoplanet? by delibes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    OK, dense large planet, interesting... hang on, what about the other bit in the article?!
    Other signals detected by the satellite could also indicate the existence of another exoplanet with a radius 1.7 times that of Earth's.
    The little green men are getting more likely all the time...

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  14. Re:Sorry... by inode_buddha · · Score: 5, Funny

    It must have been the Captain's Log...

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  15. Can't be a planet by AstrumPreliator · · Score: 3, Funny
    It can't be a planet, by definition:

    * is in orbit around the Sun,
    * has sufficient mass so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and
    * has "cleared the neighbourhood" around its orbit. Emphasis mine.
  16. Re:You think ? by amilham · · Score: 3, Funny

    pluto was not able to defy reclassification as 'not planet' after a few hundred years.
    Except that Pluto wasn't even discovered until 1930. Not really 'a few hundred years'.
  17. Indianna Jones and the Platinum Planet!!! by Zarf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Woo! That movie is gonna be awesome!

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  18. Feh... by msauve · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's just a Nibblonian latrine.

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  19. Obviously, it's... by naz404 · · Score: 3, Funny

    YO MOMMA!

    cuz yo mommma so fat, she got two smaller mommas orbiting around her!

  20. Re:Sorry... by mazarin5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's been a long, long, time since I've seen a Uranus joke that made me laugh :)

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  21. Text Excerpt from the Interview by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 2, Funny

    Geraldo Springer: I must insist you answer me! Are you a planet, or a star?
    [sputters]

    Unclassified Object: I may be a star... perhaps.
    [lays pinky finger to corner of mouth]
    Or am I a planet?
    [simpers]
    Or maybe, just maybe
    [faces away from camera, drops pants, bends over]
    I AM A MOON!

  22. Irony by Codex_of_Wisdom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Didn't the IAU just "figure out" the definitions of stars and planets? Are we going to have another year long line of BS talks and arguments, ending in a bad definition that rewrites every science book and generally gives everyone a headache? I hope not...

  23. FSA? by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The French Space Agency? That's funny, I'm French and I didn't even know we had that. Don't they mean European rather than French?

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    1. Re:FSA? by Celandine · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. The French, Italians, Dutch etc all have their own space agencies in addition to ESA. (However I have never seen the acronym FSA used for the French one: it's the CNES, the Centre National d'Etudes spatiales.)