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Microsoft Study Says Repetitive Strain Injury Costs $600m

4roddas writes "Work-related RSI cases are at an all-time high and the cost to businesses is spiraling, new Microsoft research reveals. Repetitive strain injury cases have soared by over 30 percent in the last year, costing businesses over US$600 million in lost working hours — and causing pain and debilitating discomfort to over-worked staff. Microsoft claims the rapidly emerging trend of 'mobile working' — with office-based employees now working on the move for an average of an hour more per day than they did two years ago using laptops and mobile devices — is behind this alarming climb in work-related injury. The company arrived at its conclusions in a poll among over 1,000 office workers, HR managers and office managers. This showed that 68 percent of office workers suffered from aches and pains, with the most common symptoms including back ache, shoulder pain and wrist/hand pain."

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  1. I hate to sound cynical, but ... by querist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate to be cynical, but why would Microsoft fund this study? They sell ergonomic keyboards. I wonder if they're coming out with some new ergonomic device, if they are trying to prop up sales of their current line of ergonomic devices, or if their funding of the study was simply an act of generosity (otherwise known as a tax write-off).

    Also, first post?

    1. Re:I hate to sound cynical, but ... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 5, Informative
      why would Microsoft fund this study?

      Dont you read /.?

      Yesterday they announced MicroSoft "Touch" - today they announce a reason to want it.

      Plus ca change...

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    2. Re:I hate to sound cynical, but ... by will_die · · Score: 4, Informative

      Correct.
      Here is the original article from Microsoft, most of it is an ad for thier products.
      One thing to note, Microsoft did not release this as a press release it is just part of the normal "Here is a way Microsoft can help you" marketing.

    3. Re:I hate to sound cynical, but ... by jonaskoelker · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's true that microsoft sells ergonomic keyboards. I think their most famous ones are the "split" or "natural hand" boards (that's the ones I know, and the names I know them under), i.e. the one I linked to.

      The problem is that it's not a good keyboard design. If we stick to a (roughly) flat board with buttons on it, you first of all want more space between the hands, since that's how you hold them naturally. Second of all, you want vertically aligned keys (the unaligned keys is a holdover from typewriter manufacturing constraints).

      Third of all, you want something that takes the shape and anatomy of the human hand into account. Your fingers don't have equal length. When you rest your palm, you tend to want to let your fingers "hang", being in rest at a lower place than the palm. Your thumb can do useful work besides just hitting the space bar.

      Kinesis has made a quite good keyboard, taking the above considerations into account.

      If you want to move away from the board-with-buttons, I've heard many good things about the datahand (sorry, couldn't find a picture from the makers).

      On top of picking a good keyboard, you may want to pick a good keyboard layout. I'm very happy using dvorak, and I hear that people with RSI can type with less pain (some with no pain at all) on dvorak. Comparison: on qwerty, you move your fingers 15-20 miles per day, compared to 1 mile on dvorak for (I assume) the same workload.

      For a longer explanation about dvorak, see dv zine. It's in my experience well worth the time spent learning a new keyboard layout.

      So yeah, microsoft sells ergonomic keyboards, but you can get better elsewhere. I've tried both a microsoft ergonomic board and the kinesis, and the kinesis definitely wins any comparison hands down; except when you spill coke into one and not the other.

    4. Re:I hate to sound cynical, but ... by Macthorpe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here is the original article from Microsoft, most of it is an ad for thier products. What, you mean the one line that says "Microsoft led the way in ergonomic design, having introduced the Natural Ergonomic Keyboard in 1994, and more recently the Natural Wireless Mouse 6000"?

      How on earth did that transform to 'most of the article' when you decided to point it out?
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    5. Re:I hate to sound cynical, but ... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While I view Microsoft as evil, and frequently illegal, and frequently amoral, and wanting to get my money through lockin, oddly I do still feel that they care about my needs.

      They are like some sort of evil parent that loves you but doesn't want you to grow up and go out on your own life.

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    6. Re:I hate to sound cynical, but ... by lbgator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agree that 15:1 sounds crazy - but the more you look into it the more reasonable it seems. Consider the most frequent digraphs: th he an in er on re ed nd ha at en es of nt ea ti to io le is ou ar as de rt ve. On a qwerty you can type only 1 of 27 on the homerow (as). On Dvorak you can type 13 of 27.

  2. In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the article: The research suggests that one of the main factors behind the high number of injuries is because not enough companies are replacing their existing office equipment with ergonomic hardware that can significantly reduce the risk of RSI.

    Translation:

    "...not enough companies are replacing their existing office equipment with ergonomic hardware that can run Vista."

  3. not to mention the eye strain by huit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use a 15" at work, would much prefer a desktop with a decent screen. By the time you hook up external keyboard and mouse it has to sit so far away you need an external monitor as well.

  4. I don't think Microsoft wants to go there... by Dancindan84 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next they should do a study on how much extra "Your computer wants to do something mundane and we need to you click another box. Confirm or Deny?" clicks contribute to RSI.

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    1. Re:I don't think Microsoft wants to go there... by Bert64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      actually repeatedly moving between keyboard and mouse seems to be the biggest issue. many people I know were just fine for years with text based terminals but have started having problems since moving to GUI based systems, usually affecting the hand that operates the mouse.

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  5. Seems to be the opposite of what I thought by nauseum_dot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have to say that this is amazing, when you give your employees the ability to work at home, they over work themselves.

    That seems the opposite of conventional wisdom, and I remember reading another story here, some time ago, that said that in the office employees think that telecommuters appear to be doing less work.

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    1. Re:Seems to be the opposite of what I thought by Spad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find I'm much more productive when I'm out of the office and therefore not being interrupted every 30 seconds by someone who wants me to do something for them.

    2. Re:Seems to be the opposite of what I thought by CensorshipDonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No one seems to be commenting on what I consider to be an obvious theory: mobile hardware is not ergonomically designed.

      We went through this in the 90's on desktop hardware. There was a rash of repetitive strain injuries, and almost every office made some concession to ergonomics. Keyboard trays that could be precisely positioned, wrist pads and adjustable chairs became the norm. Every office seemed to offer courses on how to avoid RSI's at your desk including how to sit properly, how to position your keyboard properly, etc.

      However, all that training and equipment remains in the office. The Microsoft study points to the rising use of mobile hardware. People work on their laptops holding them hunched over their knees, balanced on books on a couch, etc etc. How many times can you get your laptop positioned at just the right angle for your wrists? How much different is your laptop keyboard's size and aspect ratio from the desktop keyboard? Once your at the optimal distance for typing, do you find yourself bending over to see the smaller, dimmer screen more easily?

  6. Clearly, what is needed is a new interface by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Clearly, what we need is a new way to interface with a computer, something like speaking/yelling at it and/or a touchscreen interface.
    Naively I ask, does Microsoft have any such projects in development?
    hmmm....

    Idiots. If they wouldn't pop up a notification every time a computer farts or a mouse is plugged in, maybe interfacing with the computer wouldn't be so, you know, repetitive!

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  7. Conspiracy theory one: by Icarium · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1. Write software that requires the grunt of a desktop machine to run.
    2. Discredit mobile computing (where you aren't doing so well) by blaming it for a medical condition.
    3. Profit!

    Seriously though, how is it news that performing more of a repetitive action that causes RSI causes (wait for it!) more incidents of RSI?

    I'm more interested in the phenomenon whereby technology that is supposed to make our working lives easier and faster is actually making us work more. (I know, it's not *making* us work more, but why on Earth would anyone want to do more work in more time? Doing the same work in less time, or more work in the same time I can understand).

  8. We have treatment options at work by bunyip · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My employer (Sabre Holdings) offers Active Release Therapy (ART) for RSI and similar problems. The doctor that does this comes into the office two mornings a week and does 15 minute treatment sessions. No complex insurance forms and the associated cost of running around and taking time off to get it treated. It's a nice benefit to have :-)

    I've had ART done on me for running injuries (repetitive strain) and it's worked really well, I recommend it.

    1. Re:We have treatment options at work by eth1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was just about to say something similar. Any wrist pain I've ever had has been solved in about 5 minutes by my chiropractor. Ditto for back, knee, neck, etc.

      I don't think the original "injury" is usually caused by the repetitive motions, it's just aggravated by it. Fix the problem, not the symptoms.

      Wish the company would have one on staff, so I didn't have to pay for it, though...

    2. Re:We have treatment options at work by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Funny

      My employer (Sabre Holdings) offers Active Release Therapy (ART)

      Wow, that just sounds so ... naughty. Like "Massage with happy ending" or something. ;-)

      I wish my company would implement such a policy. I'm sure I'd be much more productive after a little morning 'release' to get my day off to a good start. :-P

      Cheers
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  9. Known cure by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 3, Informative
    The only known cure for "repetitive stain injury" is to take up embroidery (hand, not computer).

    The underlying cause of RSI is that you dont need to be very accurate to hit keys on a keyboard, and so you can be fairly indiscriminate about which keys you hit. The nerves all activate together, and, over a long period, you lose the ability to distinguish between nerve fibres.

    Enbroidery requires you to be very accurate, and you re-learn the use of the individual nerves.

    I leave google as an exercise for the reader, while I get back to my needlework.

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    1. Re:Known cure by ozbird · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Do not stick needle in remaining eye."

    2. Re:Known cure by Yxven · · Score: 2, Informative

      I guess I failed the exercise.

      Searching for "embroidery repetitive strain injury" on google only finds articles on how to prevent developing rsi while doing needlework.

      http://needlework.craftgossip.com/rsi-repetative-stress-injuries/2008/03/05/
      http://www.punchneedleembroidery.com/pages/default.cfm?page_id=6180
      http://www.content4reprint.com/hobbies/arts-and-crafts/how-to-avoid-repetitive-strain-injury-rsi-when-cross-stitching.htm

      So if you wouldn't mind sourcing your statement, I would appreciate it.

    3. Re:Known cure by jadrian · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bullshit. I had RSI I recovered. Also while there might be some truth to what you just said, trying to isolate _one_ cause is nonsense.

      It started slowly, bit of pain on wrist. Pain on neck, pain on back. Then it hit hard and fast. One day suddenly I started feeling pain shooting down may arm, stronger and stronger, it wouldn't stop. And it kept on going... for days. Even when that feeling stopped I couldn't even lift my arm to my chest. After some days I could move better, but typing immediately gave me pain. I couldn't type two lines without getting really serious pain. Clicking was impossible. I was just finishing my MSc thesis (just final touches), and was moving to the UK for a computer science PhD. This was around May 2005.

      Doctors in Portugal didn't do much for me. Already In the UK I paid an insane amount of money to see a private doctor, muscular skeletal specialist. He said he couldn't do much either. Suggested that I could try some drugs (usually prescribed for people with brain related problems) that could reduce nerve irritation. I didn't go for that.

      Today I'm perfectly fine. Typing this in my laptop right now. Not using ergonomic keyboards of any kind.

      Chiropractors (to aling my back, back and neck was all messed up), Massage (muscles were obviously all messed up too, plus relaxation is very important), Acupuncture and chinese herbs (hoping it would make my nerves heal faster, and also relaxation, beats me how much it helped).

      Combined that with personal improvement. Alexander Technique (to learn how to use myself, still doing it today), Yoga (Iyengar Style, still doing it too), also did some swimming, pilates, tai chi and chi kung, all quite nice.

      Note that I've done martial arts since young. That probably helped me recover too.

      Point is, you can recover from RSI.

  10. Ironic by G-News.ch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Funny how the increase in workhours is mostly due to technology Microsoft introduced themselves, among others. Windows Mobile comes to mind. What a handy business model, when you're the reason and the cure for a popular problem all at once. Greatest invention since the postal undertaker.

  11. Why the sudden interest by stavros-59 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...in something that's been known about and documented over the last 20 odd years. Any one pounding keys all day is at risk for this. I'm not sure a survey was needed. I'm trying to work out what Microsoft are doing these sort of surveys for now. Maybe even find out why they are doing it now.

  12. It's the opposite in the Netherlands by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to this article from may 16th

    http://www.nu.nl/news/1569649/36/rss/RSI-klachten_weer_op_niveau_van_10_jaar_geleden.html

    (sorry it's in dutch) our RSI numbers are down to the same as ten years ago. So we don't see to have the problem that MS is warning us about.
    I wonder why that is?

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  13. Dvorak by mwilliamson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm on a computer a good portion of the day and really enjoy using the Dvorak keyboard layout. Some studies say they layout results in faster typing, some say not, however the amount of finger travel required to type on Dvorak is substantially less than qwerty. I've been using Dvorak for about 12 years now and haven't had any wrist trouble.

    It just makes sense to use a optimized keyboard layout instead of an intentionally de-optimized layout from 130 years ago that was primarly designed to prevent typewriter hammers from sticking together. To further show how asinine the qwerty layout is, one of the marketing directives was to put all the letters to spell TYPE WRITER, which was the machines' brand name, on the top row so salesmen would have an easy demo.

    This also keeps co-workers off my console in the event I forget to lock it. What's even more amusing is to change someone else's layout to dvorak and be there when they get confused. I quickly ask them to show me and I type something in front of them. We go back and forth a few times and for a split second, I take amusement in that person questioning their own sanity.

  14. Ahh that explains... by Splab · · Score: 3, Funny

    why Microsoft insists on changing user interface on each and every release - they are doing it to protect us! My heroes!

  15. left hand or right?? by crisper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I bet construction workers are sore everyday they work their whole lives. I wonder if it is more the right hand for right handed guys and the left hand for left handed guys.....

  16. I imagine by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Funny

    this is from people continuously having to press CTRL + ALT + DEL

    Thank you, I'm here all night! Try the veal!

  17. Ctrl-Alt-Del...... by 3seas · · Score: 2, Funny

    go figure...

  18. pffft by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    most of these injuries are due to the poor ergonomics of stooping over a laptop placed on your lap

    what i've done is devoted my eating regimen to ice cream, fast food, and sugary sodas, thereby establishing a nice shelf space, massive rolls of belly fat, on which to perch my laptop. now that my laptop is securely nestled close to my face, my wrists assume a natural curvature during typing, my back is straight rather than stooped over, and i've even reduced my eye strain

    therefore, i heartily (cough wheeze) endorse a high calorie regimen to decrease RSI via belly perching your laptop for better ergonomics. its a dramatic improvement in joint health

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  19. Cool but useless. by DrYak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those weird martian keyboards definitely look cool, but critically fail to take into account the most important part :
    Nobody stay immobile the whole day with their back straight hand laid down in optimal(c) position(r) the whole day.
    Or if they actually do, they're going to have lots of back and neck pain very fast.

    All these device are optimised for a specific optimal position.
    Whereas, changing position often is critical against back/neck pains.
    Thus these devices aren't polyvalant enough for someone who's going to use them the whole day. I mean they can't even be used one handed (whereas a keyboard can... as proven by countless single /. geeks).

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  20. Does this strike anyone else ? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Studies are showing RSI costs $600m.

    Why is it that money is more important, aside the fact businesses enslave their employees through overwork and deadlines?

    RSI is not only caused by bad positioning, but also by expecting more than which can be given. By stressing the body way overtime.

    What's going to be next ? Sleep deprivation costs businesses $600m ?

    To my opinion the root cause should be talked about instead of the result in an entities wallet.

    Treat the root-problem instead of looking to the consequences only.

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  21. Dvorak v. Qwerty by hankwang · · Score: 2, Informative

    Comparison: on qwerty, you move your fingers 15-20 miles per day, compared to 1 mile on dvorak for (I assume) the same workload.

    The ratio is more like 1.7:1 according to this keyboard analysis on prose. For 250 kB of text, you travel 6.3 km on Qwerty and 3.7 km on Dvorak (only horizontal travel counted). If you don't spend too much time thinking about what you write, you might be able to type that amount in 3 days or so, so 2 versus 1.3 km per day.

    (Happily using Dvorak since 1995)