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Microsoft Demos "Deep Zoom" Technology

Barence writes "Yesterday, during a presentation for this year's Imagine Cup, Microsoft's Mark Taylor demonstrated the company's Deep Zoom technology to appreciative gasps of admiration from the computing students present. It's pretty impressive stuff, and you can try 'deep zooming' for yourself at the Hard Rock Memorabilia Site." Unfortunately the demo requires the Silverlight plugin and the story is pretty thin on technical details. I would be interested to see how they captured the image data to that level without massive pixelation.

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  1. Imagine Cup by suso · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I read Imagine Cup, I did a double take. Back in the 90s, Impulse, the company that made the popular 3D software Imagine, had a program called "Imagine CUP", which stood for Imagine Constant Upgrade Program. It allowed users to pay for the upgrade to Imagine up front and they could receive all the minor versions inbetween the major versions.

    So is this digital zoom stuff like the software that they "download off the internet in CSI: Miami" *Snicker*

  2. oh lordy... by nuzak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would be interested to see how they captured the image data to that level without massive pixelation.

    You don't ... you don't actually think that the image data came from one photo ... do you?

    *slaps forehead*

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  3. Unfortunately? by bigdanmoody · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately the demo requires the Silverlight plugin...

    A Microsoft tech demo requires the installation of new Microsoft software to view? Who would have though?

    While Silverlight might never be as widely-supported as Flash, I hope that perhaps the competition might force Adobe to do something about the CPU hog that is Flash.

    1. Re:Unfortunately? by SlashWombat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your joking, right?

      It's Intel/AMD that are expected to fix this issue, by making huge leaps in processing grunt.

      I mean, you can not expect the current crop of programmers to actually write (or even just optimise) fast code.

      We now have many touted languages that are actually interpreters, not compilers. The argument from programmers is that today's CPU's are fast enough, and that these "new" languages are much easier to debug. They may as well be written in Visual Basic in my opinion!

  4. Maybe not CSI by decowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But how is this different different from google maps (or live maps, or WHATEVER allows you to zoom out a lot)..

    1. Re:Maybe not CSI by decowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about...that depends...on the source material? That Hard Rock site does have some pieces with amazing detail, but the stamp (that the article refers to) has clearly been added to the image, because even normal print doesn't have that detail.

  5. Deep Zoom? More like Quick Load. by Itninja · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I admit the demo is neat and all, but they are not really zooming into the same image. They have just developed a way to quickly load the high resolution image on the fly. Kind of like how Google Maps will deliver a higher res map when you zoom in; but this is happening much faster.

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    1. Re:Deep Zoom? More like Quick Load. by xtracto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Kind of like how Google Maps will deliver a higher res map when you zoom in; but this is happening much faster.

      Kind of like what happens when you use Google earth very close (i.e., in-situ) to where the servers with the data are stored.

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  6. WTF? by cptdondo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're like me and a bunch of very smart students, you can't fail to be impressed. I must be dumb.... Stiching together an image of higher-res photos might be a technical wow, but sorry, I'm not really impressed. This sort of thing I might expect from a college lab, but for a multi-billion dollar company to present this as some sort of earth-shaking innovation?

  7. Re:Installing Silverlight by Dragonshed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You may find reason to install it when it reaches RTM and companies start using it for production work. Right now it's beta1 (beta2 is going to be released sometime in the next couple weeks), and it's mostly for customers/developers wanting to experiment with it.

    What becomes of silverlight content, whether it's all eye candy or not, is anyones guess. What I can say is, developing for Silverlight 2 kicks ass.

  8. I don't get it by Mike1024 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't we already have the ability to process multi-resolution images in, for example, Google Maps? You know, zooming in and out images with large total resolution?

    It would be impressive if the photo they demonstrated on was anything but a photoshop, but given that the 428x134 signature is 52x11 in the 350x237 statuette picture which is 29x26 in the 428x350 hard rock picture which is 87x87 in the 428x399 stamp picture, for the stamp to be real would require a 33 gigapixel stamp (which, at 1 inch square, would be printed at 33,000,000,000 DPI).

    To me zooming in and displaying a different image isn't really as exciting at the article author makes it sound? Maybe I'm missing something because the journalist sounds pretty damn excited about it.

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  9. Re:No free lunch by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Deep Zoom works by letting you meld several images in such a way as pretend its one image.

    That's still very useful.

    Basically, its a con job of transitioning several different images, where one is a re-photograph of sub portion of the original.

    'con job' has needless connotations of an intent to deceive.

    The implication of the article is that this is all one image containing a nearly infinite level of detail, which it most emphatically is NOT.

    No. The implication of the article is that you can provide this as a user interface, which is very cool. Google Earth isn't interesting because its a 'con job' to let us think we can zoom in and out of a single monster image of the planet. Its interesting because its a natural and convenient UI to use.

    And we don't have to download every single pixel of every single higher res image of a tree in Nigeria to have a closeup look at a parking lot in London. Detail is loaded on the fly, as needed, while the user gets a 'seamless' and comparatively low bandwidth experience.

    Its not particularly new as an idea. Or even as an implementation. But maybe Microsoft's tools make setting it up substantially easier, and that alone would be a nice bit of progress.

    The author is probably equally impressed by street corner magic tricks.

    I am impressed by street corner magicians too. Not because I think they're magical, but because I am impressed at their showmanship, sleight of hand, dexterity, and general ability to appear magical.

  10. Not impressed... by CronicBurn · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So I followed the link to http://memorabilia.hardrock.com/ - even installed the Silverlight plugin, against my best judgment just to check out this "new and exciting" technology... and it just looks like fairly high rez images. While that's all fine and dandy... it's nothing spectacular to me.

    Not to mention, when I went from http://memorabilia.hardrock.com/ to http://www.slashdot.org/ Firefox crashed. Way to go MS. Thanks for reaffirming my feelings about how fscking horrible every piece of software that comes out of your company is. /rant

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  11. Re:SeaDragon by CODiNE · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Thanks for the link, with it I'm starting to see MS' new strategy to compete with Apple stealing their "cool".

    The Seadragon team is currently tuning its DirectX implementation, making the most of the new Windows Media Photo format, and cranking on the Photosynth Technology Preview.


    So they're essentially recreating Apple's Quartz + OpenGL + standard image formats with Photosynth + DirectX + WMPF.
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