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Real Racing In the Virtual World

zebadee writes "The BBC has a story about a company aiming to pit gamers against the professionals. iOpener Media has a patented system that sucks in real-time GPS data from racing events and pumps it out to compatible games consoles and PCs. This means you can race in real-time against the like of Lewis Hamilton, Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen. The company also claims to have an AI that solves the problem of overtaking and crashes." It would be great to see this applied to historical events and other game domains, too -- like trying to beat Amundsen to the South Pole, using best-known weather data.

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  1. I'm pretty sure... by BZWingZero · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm pretty sure the Rocket Racing league is planning something similar.
    According to the Wikipedia, they are planning a game which will allow people to compete virtually along with actual racers.

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  3. All kinds of games!!! by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Funny

    This would make The Oregon Trail new again!!

    Or how about, Poll Chasing With the Best: On the Trail With Barak and Hillary.

    Or Across the Ocean With Thor Heyerdahl: The Rowing Game.

    Maybe from historical data we can recreate the spreading pattern of the black plague. Across Europe: A Flea's Tale.

    The potential is limitless.

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  4. Revisit "historical events". by arthurpaliden · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could actually go to the cantina and see that Han Solo actually did shoot first.

  5. That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be great to see this applied to historical events and other game domains, too -- like trying to beat Amundsen to the South Pole, using best-known weather data.
    This is horrible, this idea.

    The possibilities are interesting, but the most exciting idea you can think of is a game where you spend 3+ months riding behind sled dogs across the Antarctic tundra? Sounds like Penn & Teller's Desert Bus.

    I mean, don't get me wrong, Roald Amundsen was an interesting guy with a great story, but that doesn't mean it would make a good videogame.
  6. Re:Sports entertainment on slashdot by wagnerrp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sadly... you fail.

  7. How would this work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can't really call it a race when the gamer sees and reacts to the real drivers, but the real drivers don't see or react to the gamers, can you?

  8. Sounds pretty pointless by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A major limiting factor for any RealWorld racing etc is self preservation. In other words, the risk analysis to determine how fast you are prepared to drive without killing yourself.

    The virtual world racers have no such risks.

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    1. Re:Sounds pretty pointless by Cairnarvon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At least if you crash into something you're pretty much guaranteed to have all cameras on you, thereby giving the your advertisers more screen time. It balances out.

    2. Re:Sounds pretty pointless by vux984 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Although imho you would replace "killing yourself" with "destroying your employer's vehicle which costs millions of dollars and forever to repair".

      One of my favorite quotes from a driving instructor/professional driver was "If the driver doesn't come back with just the steering wheel once in a while, the rest of the team thinks he's not trying hard enough."

    3. Re:Sounds pretty pointless by Burning1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Have you ever raced? Because I have.

      A racer interested in self preservation usually only reduces his speed by about 5%-10% of what is theoretically possible. Most motorcycle racers use lines that provide space to recover if they exceed traction limits, usually at the cost of position or lap times. Most racers use a delayed apex line that allows the driver to get on the throttle hard and early. If the vehicle does start to go out of control, there is usually plenty of room to recover.

      Because exceeding the limits can be recovered, and because it usually reduces lap times, I highly doubt that being able to run near maximum speed would provide a significant advantage. After all, a casual gamer is just as likely as a racer to botch a corner and go off-line. If doing so hurts lap times badly enough, there is not a real advantage in getting so close to the edge.

      The biggest advantage a simulated racer will have is that simulations tend to be a little watered down from reality, and are usually more predictable. Top gear had an excellent video on the matter, where Jeremy Clarkson attempted to beat his GT4 time in reality using the same car (Acura NSX) and course (Laguna Seca.) I'm sure you can find the video on YouTube.

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  11. Games just aren't reality. by elynnia · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Jeremy Clarkson did an interesting segment on Top Gear a while when he drove around a racetrack in the very same car but once in Gran Turismo 4, and then in real life.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=rkdWkAs9qmo

    He points out that no matter how realistic a game is, it is just not a real-life experience:
    "The one thing I've learned today... is that you can have the skill to get this car around here in 1:40, and it could do 1:40... [but] it's that part of your brain that makes you frightened."

    Of course, games are essentially there to entertain, and I'm sure that a lot of people will enjoy racing against the professionals from the comfort of their own couch. But just because you can play Guitar Hero and have a blast of a time doing so, it doesn't necessarily mean you can play the guitar.

    Aly =]

  12. Go Speed Racist Go! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hitting Speed Racist's car Here he comes! Here comes Speed Racist!
    He's a bigot on wheels, he's a bigot
    and he's gonna be hatin' on someone.

    He's a racist so don't let him meet your friends,
    If you do they might not talk to you again,

    And when people are the wrong color
    Or come from the wrong place,
    You bet your life Speed Racist
    will get all red-faced,

    Go Speed Racist
    Go Speed Racist
    Go Speed Racist, Go!

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