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NASA Awards Contract For Spacesuit of the Future

Guillermo brings news that NASA has awarded a contract for the development of the next generation of space suits for future use by astronauts in the Constellation program. The contract calls for two different levels of protection; a flexible, lightweight model for operations inside vehicles and stations, and a tougher, bulkier model built off the first for use on the moon. We've discussed spacesuit design (and what happens without them) in the past. "Suits and support systems will be needed for as many as four astronauts on moon voyages and as many as six space station travelers. For short trips to the moon, the suit design will support a week's worth of moon walks. The system also must be designed to support a significant number of moon walks during potential six-month lunar outpost expeditions. In addition, the spacesuit and support systems will provide contingency spacewalk capability and protection against the launch and landing environment, such as spacecraft cabin leaks."

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  1. Space suit of the future! by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 4, Informative

    Space suit of the past more like!

    Seriously, come back when we have sexy space suits!

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    1. Re:Space suit of the future! by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Funny

      See this is what happens when you don't get Martha Stewart involved into the design process. At least they'd have more fashion sense. Maybe nice spring colors. Stupid rules that the government has against hiring ex-cons. :P

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    2. Re:Space suit of the future! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Goodnight Bill Theiss, wherever you are.

    3. Re:Space suit of the future! by owlnation · · Score: 3, Funny

      But then there will inevitably be fat tourists walking around the Moon or Mars in their skin-tight space suits. maybe bulky is better.
      But big and bulky is dangerous. A whaler may get confused, or use you as target practice.
  2. i always wondered by ionix5891 · · Score: 4, Funny

    what happens in them suits you know when one gets an itch?

    1. Re:i always wondered by krgallagher · · Score: 4, Funny
      "what happens in them suits you know when one gets an itch?"

      What happens in the suit stays in the suit.

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    2. Re:i always wondered by owlnation · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's what the little black part at the crotch is for in the first image.
      It's the harpoon cover.
  3. Looks like our existing space suits by un.sined · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, why spend all the money to design a new space suit, when all they can come up with is what we already have. Same bubble shaped head. Same giant backpack.

    NASA managed to waste several million dollars, and paid someone to give us what we already had. Oh, but I guess the artists drawings give it a pretty blue color...

    1. Re:Looks like our existing space suits by iamlucky13 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Seriously, why spend all the money to design a new space suit, when all they can come up with is what we already have. Same bubble shaped head. Same giant backpack. NASA managed to waste several million dollars, and paid someone to give us what we already had. Oh, but I guess the artists drawings give it a pretty blue color...

      I don't really agree with modding this down. It's a mostly fair question, albeit rather snide and ignorant. He might as well ask why Boeing would bother designing the new 787, since it has the same round engines and is roughly the same size as planes they already build. Form follows function, but that doesn't tell you much about what's inside.

      This really is not very much like the current suits. NASA currently has two models:

      The first is the Advanced Crew Escape Suit, or ACES (I always like the fact that it shared its acronym with a type of ejection seat). This is not really a space suit, but a cross between a pressure suit and an ocean-survival suit. It's designed for escape protection up to about 50,000 feet and includes a parachute, 30 minutes of oxygen, a simple cooling system, and a survival pack with a radio and life raft. It weighs about 80 pounds.

      The second is the Extravehicular Mobility Unit, or EMU. This 200 pound suit is practically a one-man spacecraft with 8 hours of life support, attachments for a cold-gas rescue jetpack, and even micrometeorite protection and glove heaters (hands can get pretty cold during the 45 minute orbital night periods). These suits are designed for long 0g operations, not walking on the moon. They're definite overkill (too bulky and heavy) for launch, landing, and quick transfers between vehicles, and not well-suited for walking on the moon. They're also quite hard to manuever in.

      The Apollo EVA suits are a little outdated and no longer available. They were also pretty awkward.

      This new suit will provide more protection than the ACES in the first configuration, and more versatility and hopefully flexibility than the EMU in the second configuration.

    2. Re:Looks like our existing space suits by confused+one · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because the design of the current NASA suit dates to Apollo. It turns out that it does not have enough flexibility, the Apollo astronaughts had difficulty performing certain tasks. The new suit design is supposed to increase flexibility and dexterity.

  4. Major Matt Mason type suit by slashname3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Doesn't that look an awful lot like the Major Matt Mason suits from the 70's? Maybe they had space flight and the Moon vehicles right way back then. Can't wait to see the crawler.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Matt_Mason

    1. Re:Major Matt Mason type suit by WED+Fan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Doesn't that look an awful lot like the Major Matt Mason suits from the 70's? Maybe they had space flight and the Moon vehicles right way back then. Can't wait to see the crawler.

      God!!! I had the whole set when I was a kid. I had my ray pistol and would set up a complete moon base in the backyard. Mom almost killed me when I dug up a corner of the yard so I could create a moon-scape. But, this is the same mom that made me an Apollo control panel out of cardboard so I could lay on the bottom bunk of my bed and play with the panel above my head like I was going to the moon.

      Anyway, I lost the Major and couldn't find him, I'm think it was in 1970. Because the next summer, '71, was the first summer I could use the power mower. I was rounding the corner by the back fence and pieces of Major Matt Mason went flying out from under the mower. America had lost a hero, and Oxnard, CA contains the grave of one rubber bendy spaceman doll. RIP Major Matt Mason, the moon is your monument./P

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  5. There's a problem with your webserver! by argent · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's a problem with your browser.

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    Hey, NASA, my User-Agent string is telling you I'm using a browser version that hasn't been released yet. How about you quit trying to guess what browser I'm using and assume that if it's not Internet Explorer it's Just Going To Work?

    (If you actually need Internet Explorer, now, then you've got an even bigger problem)
  6. Re:A tad overpriced? by bughunter · · Score: 4, Informative
    $300M is the contract value for option 1, and it's spread over 5 years -- mind you, that's the price to design, validate, and test it -- it is not the cost of a suit. Adding in option 2, and you get a tad over $560M. Furthermore, Option 2 is an "ID/IQ" contract, meaning that NASA is not obligated to actually give them a dime unless they feel like it.

    From looking at the concept, I'd make a SWAG order of magnitude estimate of $2M for the "per suit" recurring cost. Wouldn't be surprised if that is as high as $10M, though, especially by 2012.

    Considering the cost of one F-22 Raptor ($62Gig NRE, $140Meg recurring), I think it's quite affordable. We could buy just one less F-22 and it would pay for an adequate supply of Lunar suits.

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  7. I wondered about that too... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seriously, come back when we have sexy space suits! Apparently, it is not yet "there".
    From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosuit>

    Current versions of portions the BioSuit have consistently reached 25 kPa, and the team is currently aiming for 30 kPa for a baseline design. Also from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacesuit#Operating_pressure
    Operating pressure

    Generally, to supply enough oxygen for respiration, a spacesuit using pure oxygen must have a pressure of about 4.7 psi (32.4 kPa), equal to the 3 psi (20.7 kPa) partial pressure of oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere at sea level, plus 40 torr (5.3 kPa) CO2 and 47 torr (6.3 kPa) water vapor pressure, both of which must be subtracted from the alveolar pressure to get alveolar oxygen partial pressure in 100% oxygen atmospheres, by the alveolar gas equation.[1] The latter two figures add to 87 torr (11.6 kPa, 1.7 psi), which is why many modern spacesuits do not use 3 psi, but 4.7 psi (this is a slight overcorrection, as alveolar partial pressures at sea level are not a full 3 psi, but a bit less). In spacesuits that use 3 psi, the astronaut gets only 3 - 1.7 = 1.3 psi (9 kPa) of oxygen, which is about the alveolar oxygen partial pressure attained at an altitude of 6100 ft (1860 m) above sea level. This is about 78% of normal sea level pressure, about the same as pressure in a commercial passenger jet aircraft, and is the realistic lower limit for safe ordinary space suit pressurization which allows reasonable work capacity. Close... but no cigar.
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  8. The two configurations by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those who haven't yet read the article, it breaks down like this.

    The first configuration is lightweight and flexible - giving just the protection one needs to survive and operate in a vacuum. It is great for closed environments where there's less risk of dust contamination, cosmic radiation, etc. It is commonly referred to as the "normal suit"

    The second type is known as the "mobile suit" - it provides substantially more protection in harsh environments, plus a comprehensive mobility package. It will work as an outer layer covering the normal suit.

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  9. We need Flash Gordon designers by smellsofbikes · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where the suits are slim, flexible, with lots of gold trim, and sport snazzy built-in guns.

    And the suits for women are, inexplicably, 80% transparent.

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